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Hi,
i was wondering what i should pick for alevels if i want to do economics at UCL , i have applied to do Maths , Geogrpahy and Economics , but im not sure if i should do further maths aswell as a 4th alevel , but i feel like i cant handle it as im not that intrested in maths . But should i do maths , economics and further maths ? Will this help me get into Economics at UCL or not , or should i just stick with doing geography which i can enjoy and it also means that i have a better chance of getting an A* in Maths than i didnt doing Further as a 4th . What Uni's dont care about Further maths being taken for a economics degree .

Reply 1

The UCL econ course requirements dont state a preference or requirement for further maths so it will not advantage you for admissions

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by DerDracologe
The UCL econ course requirements dont state a preference or requirement for further maths so it will not advantage you for admissions


Wha university’s want further maths , and also what a-levels would you recommend me to do if i want to do economics and ucl - anything that will strengthen my application?

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by jgdksfhkshfkjfj
Wha university’s want further maths , and also what a-levels would you recommend me to do if i want to do economics and ucl - anything that will strengthen my application?

I dont have a list of them sadly but ik LSE prefer FM and generally for econ further maths may make you a more desirable applicant but this depends on the specific uni. If you want to apply to top unis for econ then the best combo is maths, further maths and econ. I doubt there are any unis that will take issue with that combination and also it will set you up for success because youll already have background in the key areas of maths and economics before you start your degree. If you think further maths might be a struggle then take geography as well so that if fm is too much for you it can be dropped. Consider asking your school if you could work towards AS level further maths over your time doing a levels too.

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by DerDracologe
I dont have a list of them sadly but ik LSE prefer FM and generally for econ further maths may make you a more desirable applicant but this depends on the specific uni. If you want to apply to top unis for econ then the best combo is maths, further maths and econ. I doubt there are any unis that will take issue with that combination and also it will set you up for success because youll already have background in the key areas of maths and economics before you start your degree. If you think further maths might be a struggle then take geography as well so that if fm is too much for you it can be dropped. Consider asking your school if you could work towards AS level further maths over your time doing a levels too.


Okay thanks alot !! I might do that alevel choice but im not sure if im going in the right direction. I am very confident in both maths and science and i like them both very much , i know i wont enjoy medicine due to the long education requirements , so i thought doing maths would be better ? And then i just researched some good jobs to do with maths and i found economics suited me the best . But still , im overall more confident in science like bio and chem rather than in maths and fm . I really only think economics is good because of the wide job opportunities and the pay . Is this bad ?? What courses at uni or any careers do you recommend. I don’t have any fav subjects or passions im just great at maths and science.

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by jgdksfhkshfkjfj
Okay thanks alot !! I might do that alevel choice but im not sure if im going in the right direction. I am very confident in both maths and science and i like them both very much , i know i wont enjoy medicine due to the long education requirements , so i thought doing maths would be better ? And then i just researched some good jobs to do with maths and i found economics suited me the best . But still , im overall more confident in science like bio and chem rather than in maths and fm . I really only think economics is good because of the wide job opportunities and the pay . Is this bad ?? What courses at uni or any careers do you recommend. I don’t have any fav subjects or passions im just great at maths and science.

My opinion is that pursing a subject for a specific career when it’s not your passion isnt a good idea. I would always advise people to choose subjects that they enjoy and if you work hard and follow your interests you should find a job that you enjoy at the end of your education!
Bio and chem dont just lead to healthcare courses, they open your options to a wide range of sources within life sciences- environment, microbiology, chem, biochem, forensics etc.
Seen as you dont really have a clear idea of your interest at the moment i think you should spend some time thinking about what interests you. Im in year 13 now and think i have a pretty clear idea of what i enjoy but i remember being in years 10 and 11 and (similar to you) knowing that i enjoyed maths and sciences but not really knowing exactly what i wanted to do. What i found helpful was online courses, i think i did 2 during my gcse years and it really helped me to decide what i was interested in! Id recommend you have a look at the courses on Springpod and see what stands out to you- they have quite a few in different subjects and they dont take very long so take a few and see what speaks to you. From there see if you can find any articles or documentaries etc to look at.

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by DerDracologe
My opinion is that pursing a subject for a specific career when it’s not your passion isnt a good idea. I would always advise people to choose subjects that they enjoy and if you work hard and follow your interests you should find a job that you enjoy at the end of your education!
Bio and chem dont just lead to healthcare courses, they open your options to a wide range of sources within life sciences- environment, microbiology, chem, biochem, forensics etc.
Seen as you dont really have a clear idea of your interest at the moment i think you should spend some time thinking about what interests you. Im in year 13 now and think i have a pretty clear idea of what i enjoy but i remember being in years 10 and 11 and (similar to you) knowing that i enjoyed maths and sciences but not really knowing exactly what i wanted to do. What i found helpful was online courses, i think i did 2 during my gcse years and it really helped me to decide what i was interested in! Id recommend you have a look at the courses on Springpod and see what stands out to you- they have quite a few in different subjects and they dont take very long so take a few and see what speaks to you. From there see if you can find any articles or documentaries etc to look at.


Thank you so much , what do you do for alevels ?

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by jgdksfhkshfkjfj
Thank you so much , what do you do for alevels ?

I do Biology, Maths, Environmental Science (switched from physics) and next year Im going to start further maths and EPQ. Happy to answer any questions on Maths, Bio or env sci 🙂

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Woww ! I dont know what to do for alevels as i love biology but i think it wouldn’t be great to pick it because the only high paying job i know to do with bio and maths would be medicine which is something i dont really want to do . What uni courses would you recommend, i have no clue what to do in the future .

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by jgdksfhkshfkjfj
Woww ! I dont know what to do for alevels as i love biology but i think it wouldn’t be great to pick it because the only high paying job i know to do with bio and maths would be medicine which is something i dont really want to do . What uni courses would you recommend, i have no clue what to do in the future .


I would do maths , further maths , physics, bio , chem , economics and geography. Any three of these alevels

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by jgdksfhkshfkjfj
Woww ! I dont know what to do for alevels as i love biology but i think it wouldn’t be great to pick it because the only high paying job i know to do with bio and maths would be medicine which is something i dont really want to do . What uni courses would you recommend, i have no clue what to do in the future .

Biology is really broad so you will definitely be keeping your options open by taking it and have a range of career paths you could follow. Id strongly recommend it if you enjoy the subject! Here’s a link on the types of jobs people tend to go into with a biology-type degree:
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/careers-advice/what-can-i-do-with-my-degree/biology
Biology and Maths is quite common to take together for a range of fields: healthcare, zoology, ecology, microbiology etc. Doing Biology and another core science (chem, physics, maths) would keep your options wide open for a massive range of life science courses, if you enjoy biology youre likely to find something you’d love to study from this kind of combination!
Try looking through some of the degree guides on sites like uniguide or unifrog because they can help you figure out what kind of thing you like but honestly if you have no idea thats absolutely fine! The best thing you can do is to take subjects you enjoy and see where they take you, lots of people start sixth form with a specific idea in mind and then change it because they find they enjoyed a particular subject a lot more than they expected. Also dont think too much about the money, healthcare isnt really high paying even, money doesnt buy happiness and i dont know about you but id rather have a job that i love!
So from maths, fm, biology, chem, econ and geography… I would recommend you do biology as youve said you enjoy that and maths is good to keep your options open across all the areas you’ve spoken about. Here’s what id suggest:
If youre interested in Physics/engineering type degrees- physics and maybe fm
If youre interested in economics/finance type degrees- fm and maybe econ
If youre interested in lab type science- chem
If youre interested in the environment- chem would be useful and geography interesting but not essential

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by DerDracologe
Biology is really broad so you will definitely be keeping your options open by taking it and have a range of career paths you could follow. Id strongly recommend it if you enjoy the subject! Here’s a link on the types of jobs people tend to go into with a biology-type degree:
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/careers-advice/what-can-i-do-with-my-degree/biology
Biology and Maths is quite common to take together for a range of fields: healthcare, zoology, ecology, microbiology etc. Doing Biology and another core science (chem, physics, maths) would keep your options wide open for a massive range of life science courses, if you enjoy biology youre likely to find something you’d love to study from this kind of combination!
Try looking through some of the degree guides on sites like uniguide or unifrog because they can help you figure out what kind of thing you like but honestly if you have no idea thats absolutely fine! The best thing you can do is to take subjects you enjoy and see where they take you, lots of people start sixth form with a specific idea in mind and then change it because they find they enjoyed a particular subject a lot more than they expected. Also dont think too much about the money, healthcare isnt really high paying even, money doesnt buy happiness and i dont know about you but id rather have a job that i love!
So from maths, fm, biology, chem, econ and geography… I would recommend you do biology as youve said you enjoy that and maths is good to keep your options open across all the areas you’ve spoken about. Here’s what id suggest:
If youre interested in Physics/engineering type degrees- physics and maybe fm
If youre interested in economics/finance type degrees- fm and maybe econ
If youre interested in lab type science- chem
If youre interested in the environment- chem would be useful and geography interesting but not essential


Okay great thanks! Do you know if collages and sixth forms will allow me to change my alevels after i have applied and the application date has passed ??

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by jgdksfhkshfkjfj
Okay great thanks! Do you know if collages and sixth forms will allow me to change my alevels after i have applied and the application date has passed ??

Depends on the sixth form and how many applicants they have for each subject

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by jgdksfhkshfkjfj
Okay thanks alot !! I might do that alevel choice but im not sure if im going in the right direction. I am very confident in both maths and science and i like them both very much , i know i wont enjoy medicine due to the long education requirements , so i thought doing maths would be better ? And then i just researched some good jobs to do with maths and i found economics suited me the best . But still , im overall more confident in science like bio and chem rather than in maths and fm . I really only think economics is good because of the wide job opportunities and the pay . Is this bad ?? What courses at uni or any careers do you recommend. I don’t have any fav subjects or passions im just great at maths and science.

You can go into finance careers from a wide range of STEM degrees, from physics to engineering.

Even besides finance, engineering has a wide range of employment opportunities and may line up well with your interests and strengths.

Try doing some UKMT past papers and learning from the detailed solutions.

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by Muu9
You can go into finance careers from a wide range of STEM degrees, from physics to engineering.
Even besides finance, engineering has a wide range of employment opportunities and may line up well with your interests and strengths.
Try doing some UKMT past papers and learning from the detailed solutions.

what a-levels do you recommend me do to keep my options open for finance and enginerring ? Also i dont want to geography anymore , but im just really scared that i didnt pick the right a-levels . I was thinking either a degree in Economics , Medicine or Engineering. I like maths so im deffinetly picking this but im not sure , should i do bio + chem + maths - to do medicicne , or Maths + fm + econ -- to do economics , or change econ for physics to do enginerring ( but if i dont get a 9 in my gcse's i have to do 4 subjects to pick further maths as an a-level at my collage. . I really dont want to do further maths becasue i know i will hate myslef if i did 4 - alevels ... However i am aiming to go to a good univercity , maybe not like Oxbridge but pretty good ones like UCL , Durham or Warwick .I was thinking of doing a specific type of enginerring or economic degree - like software enginerring ( but i dont do comp - sci GCSE so it will be hard to catch up and also I might absolutely hate it ) or Nuclear or Petroleum engineering ) or like a specific economic degree like a masters in finance or petroleum economics - because economics itself is very difficult to get a great job in as most banks employ from top univercities . OR i could do medicine and do dermatology and go through that which is much less risky in terms of salary and career but harder to move countries and also i have to spend so many years studying , and by the time im done and make a good income ill be mid 30's . Please can someone help me pick a uni course or a-levels ,and i have thought about thigns that i liek and i cant think of one specific thing , i just want a good job that allows me to go to a different country after uni and one that is not like in a really bad job market . Does anyone have anny advice and reccomendations ? Any good careers and courses ? - preferably a degree with a high demand in the future .

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by jgdksfhkshfkjfj
what a-levels do you recommend me do to keep my options open for finance and enginerring ? Also i dont want to geography anymore , but im just really scared that i didnt pick the right a-levels . I was thinking either a degree in Economics , Medicine or Engineering. I like maths so im deffinetly picking this but im not sure , should i do bio + chem + maths - to do medicicne , or Maths + fm + econ -- to do economics , or change econ for physics to do enginerring ( but if i dont get a 9 in my gcse's i have to do 4 subjects to pick further maths as an a-level at my collage. . I really dont want to do further maths becasue i know i will hate myslef if i did 4 - alevels ... However i am aiming to go to a good univercity , maybe not like Oxbridge but pretty good ones like UCL , Durham or Warwick .I was thinking of doing a specific type of enginerring or economic degree - like software enginerring ( but i dont do comp - sci GCSE so it will be hard to catch up and also I might absolutely hate it ) or Nuclear or Petroleum engineering ) or like a specific economic degree like a masters in finance or petroleum economics - because economics itself is very difficult to get a great job in as most banks employ from top univercities . OR i could do medicine and do dermatology and go through that which is much less risky in terms of salary and career but harder to move countries and also i have to spend so many years studying , and by the time im done and make a good income ill be mid 30's . Please can someone help me pick a uni course or a-levels ,and i have thought about thigns that i liek and i cant think of one specific thing , i just want a good job that allows me to go to a different country after uni and one that is not like in a really bad job market . Does anyone have anny advice and reccomendations ? Any good careers and courses ? - preferably a degree with a high demand in the future .

So first of all, you don't need econ A level for econ bsc, you don't need CS A level for a CS bsc, you don't always need A level biology for medicine, and while physics is highly recommended for engineering, you can sometimes get away with math + FM. You could take A level maths, FM, Physics, and chem to keep your options open (these four allow you to do medicine, engineering, econ, and CS) and drop whichever is the least manageable or which corresponds to the degree you are least likely to pursue once you do more research during Y12.

To be honest no one really knows what careers are going to be valued in the future, as they likely don't even exist yet and if they do, are unlikely to correspond to a specific.

I suggest you try volunteering in hospitals or shadowing doctors to see what the job is like. Same with different types of engineers.
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