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Cambridge college urged to drop ‘immoral’ private school recruitment drive

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by ErasistratusV
In the long term these courses are likely going to die out. Let's be honest here. The University education system is struggling to make money. Sixth forms and colleges are run on a shoestring. The wider economic climate in the UK isn't great for new graduates, let alone those with a degree in Greek.
About the only hope for these kinds of courses are that there are families wealthy enough to afford to pay for their offspring to attend University to study purely for the lulz. These kinds of folk do indeed exist.
Unless we are saying that heck yes, UK school leavers should all go to University, study any and all courses they like and it doesn't matter if there is no employment prospect attached to them? I mean that appears to be where we are heading now. It is all well and good saying student loans are a graduate tax but err... these billions aren't ever going to be paid off, are they?

In the long term these courses are likely going to die out.

Most Tory supporters seem obsessed with closing down anything they see as a 'pointless' degree subject with no career relevance. Except posh subjects that their kids take obviously. We are back to 'exclusive' again - ie. you will meet a better sort of person in a Classics class if they don't let the oiks in. God forbid, their daughters might marry someone who went to an ordinary school and doesn't know how to use a fish-fork.

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by McGinger
In the long term these courses are likely going to die out.
Most Tory supporters seem obsessed with closing down anything they see as a 'pointless' degree subject with no career relevance. Except posh subjects that their kids take obviously. We are back to 'exclusive' again - ie. you will meet a better sort of person in a Classics class if they don't let the oiks in. God forbid, their daughters might marry someone who went to an ordinary school and doesn't know how to use a fish-fork.


I have not voted for as long as I remember and I certainly would not class myself as a Tory. I am from a working class background too.

But I'm talking about real-world pragmatism here and the desire to see young people in work that is sustainable and provides a decent income. These degrees are going to disappear is my belief. A lot of Universities are already becoming a rich-man's game now given that the maintenance loans in a lot of places barely stretches to the rents.

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by McGinger
Getting us all back to the original point of this thread :
If this College really is worried that it isn't getting enough applications to sustain its Greek, Classics, Music etc courses, then why is it not targeting ALL schools that have these subjects as a particular specialism at A level - ie. and not just some very posh and wealthy private schools? This is all about 'the right sort of student' - it clearly has nothing to do with academic aptitude at all.

Your question was answered by Mary Hockaday, the Master of the College:

"To be clear, there has been no change to our admissions policy or our commitment to widening participation, and we continue to work very hard to support and attract students from disadvantaged backgrounds.

We propose to add [my emphasis] some schools to our existing recruitment email lists to ensure we receive applications from talented students from all backgrounds. This activity does not affect our overall admissions policy."

The College states that it is simply adding some schools to its recruitment email list, not that it is targeting these schools exclusively. Presumably, there will be many state-maintained schools already on its lists.

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by Supermature
Your question was answered by Mary Hockaday, the Master of the College:
"To be clear, there has been no change to our admissions policy or our commitment to widening participation, and we continue to work very hard to support and attract students from disadvantaged backgrounds.
We propose to add [my emphasis] some schools to our existing recruitment email lists to ensure we receive applications from talented students from all backgrounds. This activity does not affect our overall admissions policy."
The College states that it is simply adding some schools to its recruitment email list, not that it is targeting these schools exclusively. Presumably, there will be many state-maintained schools already on its lists.

'Some schools'. They have explicitly said that these will be specific elite private schools. This is not a College churning out a few extra marketing emails re. hard-to-fill courses to every school on their mailing list. This is deliberate targeting of already privileged applicants for nefarious reasons.

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by McGinger
'Some schools'. They have explicitly said that these will be specific elite private schools. This is not a College churning out a few extra marketing emails re. hard-to-fill courses to every school on their mailing list. This is deliberate targeting of already privileged applicants for nefarious reasons.
This action is all about recruitment for a small number of hard-to-fill courses from those schools most likely to have suitably qualified applicants, and has nothing to do with promoting privilege. The handful of schools in question are, it transpires, being added to a mailing list of over a thousand state-maintained schools.

Trinity Hall has pointed out that 73% of its domestic undergraduates, on average over the past three years, are from state-maintained schools (up from 61% 10 years ago) and more than 20% are from disadvantaged backgrounds, a better diversity record than certain other Cambridge colleges.
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