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A level choice crisis

I was originally going to do law environmental sciences and history to go into law now I'm thinking I want to go into conversation and do a degree in zoology where I would need to take biology a level. Whatever I choose I'll have to close the door to the other one. So I'm lost. I don't enjoy biology much either at GCSE so I don't know if it's worth the pain but then I'd close a door to a career which I want to do

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by Spaceandthewoods
I was originally going to do law environmental sciences and history to go into law now I'm thinking I want to go into conversation and do a degree in zoology where I would need to take biology a level. Whatever I choose I'll have to close the door to the other one. So I'm lost. I don't enjoy biology much either at GCSE so I don't know if it's worth the pain but then I'd close a door to a career which I want to do

Hi, I don't think you need to do anything to go into law at uni - sure an essay subject might help, but there usually aren't any subject requirements as it's a very open subject - so by choosing biology, you wouldn't be closing any doors... Ultimately, you'll get the best grades if you do subjects you like. If you want to do zoology, then you should probably take biology. You would also need another science related subject - like geography or environmental sciences. What do you think?

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by AnnoyinHuman
Hi, I don't think you need to do anything to go into law at uni - sure an essay subject might help, but there usually aren't any subject requirements as it's a very open subject - so by choosing biology, you wouldn't be closing any doors... Ultimately, you'll get the best grades if you do subjects you like. If you want to do zoology, then you should probably take biology. You would also need another science related subject - like geography or environmental sciences. What do you think?


Thankyou^ i was definitely thinking about doing environmental sciences and then I'll probably do history as it's a good essay based subject so I might change law to biology

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by AnnoyinHuman
Hi, I don't think you need to do anything to go into law at uni - sure an essay subject might help, but there usually aren't any subject requirements as it's a very open subject - so by choosing biology, you wouldn't be closing any doors... Ultimately, you'll get the best grades if you do subjects you like. If you want to do zoology, then you should probably take biology. You would also need another science related subject - like geography or environmental sciences. What do you think?


From what I’ve heard from friends who do environmental science it’s a great a-level. Don’t underestimate how difficult it is, it may be more of a physical science at times than you realise but it is so relevant and applicable to today’s world.

I think if you’re considering zoology at higher education I would strongly recommend biology as some of the content on that course can be very biology forward, although applied in different contexts.

I then think having an essay subject (whichever one of history or law you would prefer. Even politics or an English subject would work well if that interests you?) provides a very balanced mix of subjects and makes you a strong candidate for universities!

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by Spaceandthewoods
Thankyou^ i was definitely thinking about doing environmental sciences and then I'll probably do history as it's a good essay based subject so I might change law to biology

That sounds like a good idea - I do geography instead of environmental sciences, but they're very useful for zoology I can imagine!
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by Spaceandthewoods
I was originally going to do law environmental sciences and history to go into law now I'm thinking I want to go into conversation and do a degree in zoology where I would need to take biology a level. Whatever I choose I'll have to close the door to the other one. So I'm lost. I don't enjoy biology much either at GCSE so I don't know if it's worth the pain but then I'd close a door to a career which I want to do

Hi @Spaceandthewoods ,

Echoing the other comments below, whichever A-levels you take shouldn't necessarily limit your chances of doing a law degree! An essay-based subject like history combined with sciences will demonstrate a fantastic level of versatility, showing you can master the nuanced, persuasive writing required for legal arguments alongside the logical, evidence-based reasoning needed for complex problem-solving.

Even if you choose to go on and study a zoology degree, the door to law will still be open to you - if you wish, you can always study a postgraduate conversion course (like I am now!), which will require one extra year of study rather than three. In fact, many law firms admire non-law students for the diversity of skills and knowledge they bring; you may find a zoology degree sets you apart differently than if you were to study an LLB. However, do note that the PGDL is arguably more professional focused with the aims of teaching you the foundations you need to excel in a legal career. If you want to explore the academic and theoretical side of law more, an undergraduate degree in this area (or a MA) may be better.

I did history, geology and English literature at A-level, an undergraduate degree in anthropology and am now doing the law conversion - there are many more routes into law than you would think!

Best of luck 😊

Holly - PGDL Student

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by UniofLawStudent6
Hi @Spaceandthewoods ,
Echoing the other comments below, whichever A-levels you take shouldn't necessarily limit your chances of doing a law degree! An essay-based subject like history combined with sciences will demonstrate a fantastic level of versatility, showing you can master the nuanced, persuasive writing required for legal arguments alongside the logical, evidence-based reasoning needed for complex problem-solving.
Even if you choose to go on and study a zoology degree, the door to law will still be open to you - if you wish, you can always study a postgraduate conversion course (like I am now!), which will require one extra year of study rather than three. In fact, many law firms admire non-law students for the diversity of skills and knowledge they bring; you may find a zoology degree sets you apart differently than if you were to study an LLB. However, do note that the PGDL is arguably more professional focused with the aims of teaching you the foundations you need to excel in a legal career. If you want to explore the academic and theoretical side of law more, an undergraduate degree in this area (or a MA) may be better.
I did history, geology and English literature at A-level, an undergraduate degree in anthropology and am now doing the law conversion - there are many more routes into law than you would think!
Best of luck 😊
Holly - PGDL Student


Thankyou! This is very helpful. I'm glad to know I'll be able to do law even if I did change my mind later down the line!

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by freddie39
From what I’ve heard from friends who do environmental science it’s a great a-level. Don’t underestimate how difficult it is, it may be more of a physical science at times than you realise but it is so relevant and applicable to today’s world.
I think if you’re considering zoology at higher education I would strongly recommend biology as some of the content on that course can be very biology forward, although applied in different contexts.
I then think having an essay subject (whichever one of history or law you would prefer. Even politics or an English subject would work well if that interests you?) provides a very balanced mix of subjects and makes you a strong candidate for universities!


Thank you :smile: this is nice to know :smile:)
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by Spaceandthewoods
I was originally going to do law environmental sciences and history to go into law now I'm thinking I want to go into conversation and do a degree in zoology where I would need to take biology a level. Whatever I choose I'll have to close the door to the other one. So I'm lost. I don't enjoy biology much either at GCSE so I don't know if it's worth the pain but then I'd close a door to a career which I want to do

As youve been told, law doesnt have required subjects but sometimes essay subjects can be preferred so having one is a good idea. History is generally more respected as an a level than law from what I know so id recommend that 🙂
For conservation and zoology type degrees, biology is often needed and a second science is extremely useful so env sci is great for that and very relevant ofc!
I do biology and env sci a level btw so feel free to ask me any questions! Incidentally, I’m also aiming for zoology and conservation degrees!

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by Spaceandthewoods
I was originally going to do law environmental sciences and history to go into law now I'm thinking I want to go into conversation and do a degree in zoology where I would need to take biology a level. Whatever I choose I'll have to close the door to the other one. So I'm lost. I don't enjoy biology much either at GCSE so I don't know if it's worth the pain but then I'd close a door to a career which I want to do

As a kid my mum wanted to do meteorology, but her parents told her to do law. She did that, but then specialised in environmental law. Even if you do take a liking to biology, but decide to stay in the law branch, you can always kind of mix all of them up down the line!

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by DerDracologe
As youve been told, law doesnt have required subjects but sometimes essay subjects can be preferred so having one is a good idea. History is generally more respected as an a level than law from what I know so id recommend that 🙂
For conservation and zoology type degrees, biology is often needed and a second science is extremely useful so env sci is great for that and very relevant ofc!
I do biology and env sci a level btw so feel free to ask me any questions! Incidentally, I’m also aiming for zoology and conservation degrees!


Thank you this is very helpful! Now some questions 1) how much overlap in content is there typically? 2) out of env sciences and bio is there one which is "easier"(I know no A-level is easy as such) 3) did you do or are you doing any additional things for your personal statement such as volunteering, if so what were they (in terms of a zoology degree). 4) for practical based work in biology do you have to evaluate and write up anything after the practical or be assessed individually?

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by Ilikeducks
As a kid my mum wanted to do meteorology, but her parents told her to do law. She did that, but then specialised in environmental law. Even if you do take a liking to biology, but decide to stay in the law branch, you can always kind of mix all of them up down the line!


That's the area of law I was planning on going into if I did enter law! Do you know if she enjoyed her job and what she mostly did/is doing for it?

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by Spaceandthewoods
Thank you this is very helpful! Now some questions 1) how much overlap in content is there typically? 2) out of env sciences and bio is there one which is "easier"(I know no A-level is easy as such) 3) did you do or are you doing any additional things for your personal statement such as volunteering, if so what were they (in terms of a zoology degree). 4) for practical based work in biology do you have to evaluate and write up anything after the practical or be assessed individually?

1) There is actually quite a lot of overlap! The evolution, biodiversity and ecology stuff from biology is all really relevant to env sci and a lot of the definitions we need to know and main concepts for the living env stuff in env sci are biology stuff. I would say that env sci often requires a lot of examples which you dont need to know in biology but the great thing about doing both is that in your env sci essays you can write about stuff from biology or recommended reading stuff from biology and it will work great. When i had my first env sci assessment i had a bio assessment the same week and just revised for bio which funnily enough actually got me a B in bio and an A in env sci on those tests lol even though i didnt review anything for env sci
2) I would say that it depends on your skill set a lot, as it does for any a level, but especially for env sci the breadth of the content means you can be very good at one side of the course and not at the other! The living env stuff for me is easier than biology because you basically replace the complex processes from biology with lots of examples for env sci but the physical env sci is more geography/physics/chem based so i find that harder to get to grips with, mostly because its been quite a while since i studied physical sciences or geography. The exam tech for env sci is definitely more difficult, you need specific examples and some phrasing is really picky and the essays are quite tricky to get a handle on but the questions are more straightforward usually imo if that makes sense
3) bit reluctant to share exactly whats in ps as i havent applied for uni yet but i can definitely give you some suggestions for where ive found the best stuff! Online courses are really great, Ive done ones about animal behaviour, aquatic mammals, animal responses, biodiversity, animal management and fire ecology (sites to look at: edx, openlearn, Springpod). Documentaries can be very useful, i usually look on iPlayer for these! Google arts and culture is great, their articles are really interactive and museum based which i love. I did the Cambridge biology challenge in year 12 which i cannot recommend enough! Channel talent runs amazing webinars with uk universities on a massive range of topics, i usually go for the biology and geography centred ones. Ive done virtual work experience on Springpod on geology, sustainability, agriculture and vet care. Also been to some cool places like geology and zoology museums, nature reserves, zoos, wildlife parks, sea life centres, botanical gardens. In terms of books ive only actually read a couple but the strategy id recommend is finding books on specific topics that really interest you rather than reading the books everyone goes for. I did work experience irl as well which was quite agriculture focused but office-based. Only a fraction of this stuff will end up on my ps but i didnt do any of this stuff with the aim of putting it on my personal statement, just did it because i love learning about these kind of things and i want to know as much as it can lol. I haven’t done any volunteering relevant to zoology but ive done tutoring and i hope to do some relevant volunteering type stuff this year 🙂
4) you sometimes have to do biological drawings or graphs or answer some practice questions but ive never had to do a big writing task for a practical. You are assessed individually, the teacher walks around and reminds people that they need to see everyone doing each thing at least once or twice for everyone to pass the skill that time around.

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by DerDracologe
1) There is actually quite a lot of overlap! The evolution, biodiversity and ecology stuff from biology is all really relevant to env sci and a lot of the definitions we need to know and main concepts for the living env stuff in env sci are biology stuff. I would say that env sci often requires a lot of examples which you dont need to know in biology but the great thing about doing both is that in your env sci essays you can write about stuff from biology or recommended reading stuff from biology and it will work great. When i had my first env sci assessment i had a bio assessment the same week and just revised for bio which funnily enough actually got me a B in bio and an A in env sci on those tests lol even though i didnt review anything for env sci
2) I would say that it depends on your skill set a lot, as it does for any a level, but especially for env sci the breadth of the content means you can be very good at one side of the course and not at the other! The living env stuff for me is easier than biology because you basically replace the complex processes from biology with lots of examples for env sci but the physical env sci is more geography/physics/chem based so i find that harder to get to grips with, mostly because its been quite a while since i studied physical sciences or geography. The exam tech for env sci is definitely more difficult, you need specific examples and some phrasing is really picky and the essays are quite tricky to get a handle on but the questions are more straightforward usually imo if that makes sense
3) bit reluctant to share exactly whats in ps as i havent applied for uni yet but i can definitely give you some suggestions for where ive found the best stuff! Online courses are really great, Ive done ones about animal behaviour, aquatic mammals, animal responses, biodiversity, animal management and fire ecology (sites to look at: edx, openlearn, Springpod). Documentaries can be very useful, i usually look on iPlayer for these! Google arts and culture is great, their articles are really interactive and museum based which i love. I did the Cambridge biology challenge in year 12 which i cannot recommend enough! Channel talent runs amazing webinars with uk universities on a massive range of topics, i usually go for the biology and geography centred ones. Ive done virtual work experience on Springpod on geology, sustainability, agriculture and vet care. Also been to some cool places like geology and zoology museums, nature reserves, zoos, wildlife parks, sea life centres, botanical gardens. In terms of books ive only actually read a couple but the strategy id recommend is finding books on specific topics that really interest you rather than reading the books everyone goes for. I did work experience irl as well which was quite agriculture focused but office-based. Only a fraction of this stuff will end up on my ps but i didnt do any of this stuff with the aim of putting it on my personal statement, just did it because i love learning about these kind of things and i want to know as much as it can lol. I haven’t done any volunteering relevant to zoology but ive done tutoring and i hope to do some relevant volunteering type stuff this year 🙂
4) you sometimes have to do biological drawings or graphs or answer some practice questions but ive never had to do a big writing task for a practical. You are assessed individually, the teacher walks around and reminds people that they need to see everyone doing each thing at least once or twice for everyone to pass the skill that time around.


Thank you for taking the time to answer them and no worries about not answering much about Q3! It's reassuring to hear this so I'll be able to make a better choice. Thank you again for your help :biggrin:

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by Spaceandthewoods
I was originally going to do law environmental sciences and history to go into law now I'm thinking I want to go into conversation and do a degree in zoology where I would need to take biology a level. Whatever I choose I'll have to close the door to the other one. So I'm lost. I don't enjoy biology much either at GCSE so I don't know if it's worth the pain but then I'd close a door to a career which I want to do

HIII!!!

I am a current law student, and I did biology at A-level (with maths and geography, so literally no law-related subjects). All unis really care about is the grades you've actually achieved for the most part for la,w so if that's the route you want to go down, pick subjects you feel you will excel in because the grade requirements can be really high
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by AnnoyinHuman
Hi, I don't think you need to do anything to go into law at uni - sure an essay subject might help, but there usually aren't any subject requirements as it's a very open subject - so by choosing biology, you wouldn't be closing any doors... Ultimately, you'll get the best grades if you do subjects you like. If you want to do zoology, then you should probably take biology. You would also need another science related subject - like geography or environmental sciences. What do you think?

I agree.

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by Spaceandthewoods
I was originally going to do law environmental sciences and history to go into law now I'm thinking I want to go into conversation and do a degree in zoology where I would need to take biology a level. Whatever I choose I'll have to close the door to the other one. So I'm lost. I don't enjoy biology much either at GCSE so I don't know if it's worth the pain but then I'd close a door to a career which I want to do

Hi Spaceandthewoods,

I'm a current PhD student in Evolutionary Biology studying at the University of Exeter's Penryn Campus. I also studied here for my undergrad degree in BSc Zoology with Study Abroad - which I couldn't recommend highly enough! I just thought I'd contribute to this thread as not every Zoology degree requires Biology as an A Level subject. For example, at Exeter we just specify a certain grade in a science subject, which environmental science would qualify for, and so you'd still be eligible for this course even without Biology A Level. Each university might differ, so it might be worth looking at Zoology degrees across the UK, seeing which courses interest you (+ which you feel likely to meet the entry grades) and then checking their entry requirements closely. Overall I'd echo the advice in this thread, of studying the subjects that most interest you as they are also those in which you are likely to do best.

Please don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any further questions.

Kingsley
University of Exeter Student Ambassador
Hi @Spaceandthewoods,

I completely understand why this feels stressful, but try not to think of it as “closing doors”. That’s a really common misconception at this stage.

The most important thing right now is choosing subjects that you’re most likely to do well in. Strong grades are what really open doors later on, far more than having a “perfect” combination. If you don’t enjoy Biology at GCSE and already find it hard, there’s a real risk you’ll struggle at A-level, which could affect all your results. Also, choosing one path now does not mean you’re locked into it forever. People change direction all the time. For example, I studied Economics and I’m now going into law. I have friends who studied Classics and are now working in banking. Your A-levels won’t define your whole life.

If you take Law/Environmental Sciences/History and do really well, you’ll still have loads of options at university. And if later you decide you want to switch into something like conservation or environmental work, there are often conversion courses, foundation years, or alternative routes.
Another thing to bear in mind: when you get to university, you’ll grow a lot, meet new people, and be exposed to loads of different careers. What you think you want now may well change and that’s completely normal. Focus on the step in front of you rather than the whole staircase.

Hope that helps and happy to answer any follow ups!

Ronak

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