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Regretting not doing STEM

I prioritised getting into my dream university over choosing the right degree for me. I chose English Literature and got into UCL to pursue a career in Law, but lately I’ve been wishing I had pursued STEM instead. It feels too late now, especially since I already started my degree.

For A-Levels, I took History, Biology, Psychology, and English Literature, but I wish I had done Chemistry or Maths. My experience with those subjects at GCSE was awful the teachers at my state school were rude and unhelpful, and I wasn’t even allowed to ask questions. I went from getting 8s and 9s to barely managing 4s, and ended up with 5s and 6s. That completely put me off continuing them.

Regardless, I didn’t think I’d be able to get into a good university for STEM, so I never even tried. But now I’m seeing people who performed worse than me getting into STEM courses, and it’s left me feeling really disappointed in myself for having prioritised getting into a good university than doing a degree I wanted.

I can't change my degree since I can't get funding for another degree.

I just feel really regretful right now.
(edited 2 months ago)

Reply 1

Original post
by sanwwio
I prioritised getting into my dream university over choosing the right degree for me. I chose English Literature and got into UCL to pursue a career in Law, but lately I’ve been wishing I had pursued STEM instead. It feels too late now, especially since I already started my degree.
For A-Levels, I took History, Biology, Psychology, and English Literature, but I wish I had done Chemistry or Maths. My experience with those subjects at GCSE was awful the teachers at my state school were rude and unhelpful, and I wasn’t even allowed to ask questions. I went from getting 8s and 9s to barely managing 4s, and ended up with 5s and 6s. That completely put me off continuing them.
Regardless, I didn’t think I’d be able to get into a good university for STEM, so I never even tried. But now I’m seeing people who performed worse than me getting into STEM courses, and it’s left me feeling really disappointed in myself for having prioritised getting into a good university than doing a degree I wanted.
I can't change my degree since I can't get funding for another degree.
I just feel really regretful right now.
Hi there, I am a STEM student currently doing Biology, Psychology, Chemistry, and I did Maths at AS level. I’m sorry your school made it difficult for you to go into STEM and that you regret your choices, but firstly, it is not your fault. Everyone regrets things they do in life at some point. However, I’m here to give some advice.
I’m also quite involved in encouraging people in my year to get into STEM, so I know a lot about different jobs and pathways, and what you can do to combine them. I don’t know if this advice is perfect, as I’m not 100% sure what exact course my cousin did, but they studied law (not sure which specific course) at the University of Brighton, and now their job is very much STEM-related they are a medical law specialist. This happened because they slowly transitioned into the medical side of law and also completed a degree apprenticeship in that area.
So I would say: look around, because you might be able to find something you can do during or after your degree that still uses law while adding STEM. Honestly, STEM is literally everywhere, so I’m sure you will find something.
Here is a list of a few law-related jobs that also involve STEM, if you want to have a look:
1) Tech + Law (very popular and well-paid)
Patent Attorney / Patent Lawyer You mainly work with tech and pharmaceutical companies and help protect inventions. However, this usually requires a STEM degree as well (nothing extreme), but law is a major part of it.
IP (Intellectual Property) Lawyer You don’t need a STEM degree for this just law but it does involve less STEM content. That said, it’s a growing field, especially due to AI.
Technology Lawyer This is basically what the name suggests: you work as a lawyer for tech companies. It does not require a STEM degree.
2) Data / Computing + Law
Cybersecurity & Data Protection Specialist A very cool job involving data forensics and cyber law. However, it does usually require either a computing-related degree or strong ICT knowledge.
Legal Engineer This involves building and managing legal tech tools. It requires knowledge of coding (e.g. Python) and some maths.
3) Medical / Science-Based (like my cousin)
Medical Law Specialist This includes work around clinical trials, drug testing, and the ethics and laws behind them. There is no clinical work, but it involves a lot of biology.
Regulatory Affairs Specialist A very interesting job where you make sure products from pharmaceutical companies meet scientific and legal standards. It also pays very well (I believe one of the highest). However, it usually requires biology and chemistry knowledge.
So those are some careers that combine STEM and law. However, since you don’t do Chemistry, Maths, or Computing, some of these may be harder to access. That said, all of them require a law degree, which you will have.
To gain more knowledge, you can do online courses on edX some are free to build up STEM skills you might be missing. They offer lots of programming and Python courses. If there’s a job or course you’re interested in, you can search specifically for skills related to it. Some courses do cost money (around £100), which sounds like a lot, but I personally think it’s worth it just make sure to do the free ones first.
You can also ask your university whether they offer any side courses, modules, or short programmes that are STEM-related.
I hope this helps. Wishing you all the very best!! 🌟

BADV SPELLING VESION CUZ IM DYCLSEC : hi there I an I stem student currently doing bio, pchology, chem and I di maths AS level. Im sorry you school made it dignity for you to got into stem and that you rage your choices but firstly it no you fault and everyone regents thing they do in like however I al hear to give some advice. im also like th head in my year of getting people into stem so I know A LOT of jobs an. uses and wat you can do t ogee not them so yaaa. I dont kmow if thi advice is any good cuz im not sure wat course my coin did exactly but they also did law not sure wt exact course but art brighton and now there job is very much STEM job( medical law specialist) . thi is become she like slowly trstionws into the more medical side of law and did a degree aprechip on it too. so I would say look around and you might be able to find something you can do after/ during you degree that still uses law and adds stem. TBH STEM IS LIRELLTY EVERYWHERE ISO IM SYRE YOU WILL FIND SMTH. I have list of few jobs that have stem and are law related if you want give it a look; 1) YOU CAN DO SMTH TECH/ LAW REALTED - it is very popular and pays well to some jobs are Patent Attorney / Patent Lawyer. are you palatally work with tech and pharma companies and help with project inventions ( hower it does require an stem degree nothing big tho but law is a big part of it) IP (Intellectual Property) Lawyer - you dont need a stem degree of thi just law but the des mean it had les stem int it but it it good growing felid due to AI Technology Lawyer - this is like bacialy the name you lawyer for tech nd there companies and does not require stem degree. 2) YOU CAN ALSO DO CROSS OF DATA/ COMUTING WITH LAW - Cybersecurity & Data Protection Specialist - very cool job with like data forensics and cyber law ( however it des require ether a computing slice degree / ict knowledge) Legal Engineer - building/ magnet legal tech tools but does also require a know of coding and python as we'll a math 3) AD FINALLY LIKE MY COSIN MORE MEDICAL BASED - Medical Law Specialist - stuff lie clinical trials in drug testing n the ethics a laws behind that, however it does not have any clinical work in it but it dies have lot of biology. Regulatory Affairs Specialist - very cool job of making sure products from Pharma covaries and stuff meet Semitic and legal standarards ALOS PAYS THE MOST A BELIVE hover it dies require biology nd hem sty knowledge. so those are some jobs that have STEM ad lw in them. however since you do not do chemistsy or math or copout widen some of these may be hard to get. hover her all require a law degree wich you will have!! to get more kmoe age on these you can do ollie houses on EDx some of whit are for free to gain more stem knoelge the have lost of programming python course and if there is job/ court you iterated in you can sheikh tan find some. hover some do cos many but not tom much like $100 wich sound like. lot but I tick it worth it defo do all th are once fist tho. you can also ask there uni if they have any side/ sub mini course they offer that a stem related. I HOPE THI HELPS WICHING YUO ALL THR BEST !!!!

Reply 2

Original post
by animazddhdnm
Hi there, I am a STEM student currently doing Biology, Psychology, Chemistry, and I did Maths at AS level. I’m sorry your school made it difficult for you to go into STEM and that you regret your choices, but firstly, it is not your fault. Everyone regrets things they do in life at some point. However, I’m here to give some advice.
I’m also quite involved in encouraging people in my year to get into STEM, so I know a lot about different jobs and pathways, and what you can do to combine them. I don’t know if this advice is perfect, as I’m not 100% sure what exact course my cousin did, but they studied law (not sure which specific course) at the University of Brighton, and now their job is very much STEM-related they are a medical law specialist. This happened because they slowly transitioned into the medical side of law and also completed a degree apprenticeship in that area.
So I would say: look around, because you might be able to find something you can do during or after your degree that still uses law while adding STEM. Honestly, STEM is literally everywhere, so I’m sure you will find something.
Here is a list of a few law-related jobs that also involve STEM, if you want to have a look:
1) Tech + Law (very popular and well-paid)
Patent Attorney / Patent Lawyer You mainly work with tech and pharmaceutical companies and help protect inventions. However, this usually requires a STEM degree as well (nothing extreme), but law is a major part of it.
IP (Intellectual Property) Lawyer You don’t need a STEM degree for this just law but it does involve less STEM content. That said, it’s a growing field, especially due to AI.
Technology Lawyer This is basically what the name suggests: you work as a lawyer for tech companies. It does not require a STEM degree.
2) Data / Computing + Law
Cybersecurity & Data Protection Specialist A very cool job involving data forensics and cyber law. However, it does usually require either a computing-related degree or strong ICT knowledge.
Legal Engineer This involves building and managing legal tech tools. It requires knowledge of coding (e.g. Python) and some maths.
3) Medical / Science-Based (like my cousin)
Medical Law Specialist This includes work around clinical trials, drug testing, and the ethics and laws behind them. There is no clinical work, but it involves a lot of biology.
Regulatory Affairs Specialist A very interesting job where you make sure products from pharmaceutical companies meet scientific and legal standards. It also pays very well (I believe one of the highest). However, it usually requires biology and chemistry knowledge.
So those are some careers that combine STEM and law. However, since you don’t do Chemistry, Maths, or Computing, some of these may be harder to access. That said, all of them require a law degree, which you will have.
To gain more knowledge, you can do online courses on edX some are free to build up STEM skills you might be missing. They offer lots of programming and Python courses. If there’s a job or course you’re interested in, you can search specifically for skills related to it. Some courses do cost money (around £100), which sounds like a lot, but I personally think it’s worth it just make sure to do the free ones first.
You can also ask your university whether they offer any side courses, modules, or short programmes that are STEM-related.
I hope this helps. Wishing you all the very best!! 🌟
BADV SPELLING VESION CUZ IM DYCLSEC : hi there I an I stem student currently doing bio, pchology, chem and I di maths AS level. Im sorry you school made it dignity for you to got into stem and that you rage your choices but firstly it no you fault and everyone regents thing they do in like however I al hear to give some advice. im also like th head in my year of getting people into stem so I know A LOT of jobs an. uses and wat you can do t ogee not them so yaaa. I dont kmow if thi advice is any good cuz im not sure wat course my coin did exactly but they also did law not sure wt exact course but art brighton and now there job is very much STEM job( medical law specialist) . thi is become she like slowly trstionws into the more medical side of law and did a degree aprechip on it too. so I would say look around and you might be able to find something you can do after/ during you degree that still uses law and adds stem. TBH STEM IS LIRELLTY EVERYWHERE ISO IM SYRE YOU WILL FIND SMTH. I have list of few jobs that have stem and are law related if you want give it a look; 1) YOU CAN DO SMTH TECH/ LAW REALTED - it is very popular and pays well to some jobs are Patent Attorney / Patent Lawyer. are you palatally work with tech and pharma companies and help with project inventions ( hower it does require an stem degree nothing big tho but law is a big part of it) IP (Intellectual Property) Lawyer - you dont need a stem degree of thi just law but the des mean it had les stem int it but it it good growing felid due to AI Technology Lawyer - this is like bacialy the name you lawyer for tech nd there companies and does not require stem degree. 2) YOU CAN ALSO DO CROSS OF DATA/ COMUTING WITH LAW - Cybersecurity & Data Protection Specialist - very cool job with like data forensics and cyber law ( however it des require ether a computing slice degree / ict knowledge) Legal Engineer - building/ magnet legal tech tools but does also require a know of coding and python as we'll a math 3) AD FINALLY LIKE MY COSIN MORE MEDICAL BASED - Medical Law Specialist - stuff lie clinical trials in drug testing n the ethics a laws behind that, however it does not have any clinical work in it but it dies have lot of biology. Regulatory Affairs Specialist - very cool job of making sure products from Pharma covaries and stuff meet Semitic and legal standarards ALOS PAYS THE MOST A BELIVE hover it dies require biology nd hem sty knowledge. so those are some jobs that have STEM ad lw in them. however since you do not do chemistsy or math or copout widen some of these may be hard to get. hover her all require a law degree wich you will have!! to get more kmoe age on these you can do ollie houses on EDx some of whit are for free to gain more stem knoelge the have lost of programming python course and if there is job/ court you iterated in you can sheikh tan find some. hover some do cos many but not tom much like $100 wich sound like. lot but I tick it worth it defo do all th are once fist tho. you can also ask there uni if they have any side/ sub mini course they offer that a stem related. I HOPE THI HELPS WICHING YUO ALL THR BEST !!!!

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Reply 3

Original post
by sanwwio
I prioritised getting into my dream university over choosing the right degree for me. I chose English Literature and got into UCL to pursue a career in Law, but lately I’ve been wishing I had pursued STEM instead. It feels too late now, especially since I already started my degree.
For A-Levels, I took History, Biology, Psychology, and English Literature, but I wish I had done Chemistry or Maths. My experience with those subjects at GCSE was awful the teachers at my state school were rude and unhelpful, and I wasn’t even allowed to ask questions. I went from getting 8s and 9s to barely managing 4s, and ended up with 5s and 6s. That completely put me off continuing them.
Regardless, I didn’t think I’d be able to get into a good university for STEM, so I never even tried. But now I’m seeing people who performed worse than me getting into STEM courses, and it’s left me feeling really disappointed in myself for having prioritised getting into a good university than doing a degree I wanted.
I can't change my degree since I can't get funding for another degree.
I just feel really regretful right now.

It is never the end of the road, but you have to be clear on what exactly you want to do because STEM is shorthand for a broad set of subjects and disciplines.

It is also possible to pivot after your degree once you are clear on what you want to do because Engineering is different to Medicine or straight Maths.
Original post
by sanwwio
I prioritised getting into my dream university over choosing the right degree for me. I chose English Literature and got into UCL to pursue a career in Law, but lately I’ve been wishing I had pursued STEM instead. It feels too late now, especially since I already started my degree.

For A-Levels, I took History, Biology, Psychology, and English Literature, but I wish I had done Chemistry or Maths. My experience with those subjects at GCSE was awful the teachers at my state school were rude and unhelpful, and I wasn’t even allowed to ask questions. I went from getting 8s and 9s to barely managing 4s, and ended up with 5s and 6s. That completely put me off continuing them.

Regardless, I didn’t think I’d be able to get into a good university for STEM, so I never even tried. But now I’m seeing people who performed worse than me getting into STEM courses, and it’s left me feeling really disappointed in myself for having prioritised getting into a good university than doing a degree I wanted.

I can't change my degree since I can't get funding for another degree.

I just feel really regretful right now.


For what it's worth I had a CS finalist in a module I was doing last year (at UCL), and he said most of his cohort (i.e. CS at UCL) don't have jobs lined up because the market for work in the "technology" sector is so bad. He said he was quite lucky he managed to get an internship that turned into a (conditional) job offer. So, employment-wise it's no better or worse.

In terms of subject specific content then, well there's only so much you can do. Maybe do some elective modules from the history and philosophy of science/science and society courses, or similar. Nominally if you got a high grade in A-level Biology you might potentially be able to try doing some level 4 elective module (which doesn't require chemistry) from the division of biosciences.

Realistically though unless you specifically wanted to work in a lab or do a PhD in a scientific field, it's all just about your own personal intellectual interests. And worst case scenario there are probably ways to exercise your interest in science without doing a science degree (even outside of formal modules in your course - nothing stopping you keeping up to date on current scientific developments, news, and where research is going in different areas).

Also English at UCL is pretty selective (it has more applications per place than medicine..) so it's not like you applied to an easy to get into course to get into UCL in any event...
If you have done 1 year or less of your current degree, yes you can change course and still get funding.

Reply 6

Original post
by sanwwio
I prioritised getting into my dream university over choosing the right degree for me. I chose English Literature and got into UCL to pursue a career in Law, but lately I’ve been wishing I had pursued STEM instead. It feels too late now, especially since I already started my degree.
For A-Levels, I took History, Biology, Psychology, and English Literature, but I wish I had done Chemistry or Maths. My experience with those subjects at GCSE was awful the teachers at my state school were rude and unhelpful, and I wasn’t even allowed to ask questions. I went from getting 8s and 9s to barely managing 4s, and ended up with 5s and 6s. That completely put me off continuing them.
Regardless, I didn’t think I’d be able to get into a good university for STEM, so I never even tried. But now I’m seeing people who performed worse than me getting into STEM courses, and it’s left me feeling really disappointed in myself for having prioritised getting into a good university than doing a degree I wanted.
I can't change my degree since I can't get funding for another degree.
I just feel really regretful right now.

If you really enjoy STEM, maybe join a STEM related society at UCL?

Reply 7

Original post
by sanwwio
I prioritised getting into my dream university over choosing the right degree for me. I chose English Literature and got into UCL to pursue a career in Law, but lately I’ve been wishing I had pursued STEM instead. It feels too late now, especially since I already started my degree.
For A-Levels, I took History, Biology, Psychology, and English Literature, but I wish I had done Chemistry or Maths. My experience with those subjects at GCSE was awful the teachers at my state school were rude and unhelpful, and I wasn’t even allowed to ask questions. I went from getting 8s and 9s to barely managing 4s, and ended up with 5s and 6s. That completely put me off continuing them.
Regardless, I didn’t think I’d be able to get into a good university for STEM, so I never even tried. But now I’m seeing people who performed worse than me getting into STEM courses, and it’s left me feeling really disappointed in myself for having prioritised getting into a good university than doing a degree I wanted.
I can't change my degree since I can't get funding for another degree.
I just feel really regretful right now.

The weight of the university you attended, UCL, will count massively in your favour should you choose to go into Law, or work for a publisher, amongst others top fields. When you are at UCL you might not feel like you are at the best multi-faculty uni in the UK after Oxbridge, but on paper that is exactly what it is, and leading employers know that. I don't think those types of fields are susceptible to AI.

As for studying STEM, there is currently an oversupply of graduates doing biological degrees, and there aren't that many jobs going in Chemistry. You need an MRes or MSc in STEM subjects just to get a look in for decent jobs related to those fields, and a PhD is highly desirable, and often essential.

Reply 8

Maybe you could take up coding as a hobby? It will add another string to your bow at no extra cost. You could perhaps even do certified courses to earn valuable certificates from leading universities via online study? Or you could do a conversation masters course in a STEM subjects?

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