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Do people truly believe that Trump is a smart or good person?

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Reply 1

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by Abcees123s
Do people truly believe that Trump is a smart or good person?

I do.

Reply 2

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by Wired_1800
I do.


What exactly is your reasoning behind this? Let me try to understand and see from your POV

Reply 3

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by Abcees123s
What exactly is your reasoning behind this? Let me try to understand and see from your POV

Because he seems to want the best for his country even though some disagree with his approach. He has also not started new wars.

Reply 4

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by Wired_1800
Because he seems to want the best for his country even though some disagree with his approach. He has also not started new wars.


How does that make him smart or a good person. You need to explain

Reply 5

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by Abcees123s
How does that make him smart or a good person. You need to explain

Because he is using his abilities and capabilities to achieve his aims.

Reply 6

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by Wired_1800
Because he is using his abilities and capabilities to achieve his aims.


You are still not explaining properly.
What abilities, what aims because to the average person with a good moral compass he looks like a racist, homophonic, and islamophobic POS who refuses to learn fr history.

Reply 7

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by Abcees123s
You are still not explaining properly.
What abilities, what aims because to the average person with a good moral compass he looks like a racist, homophonic, and islamophobic POS who refuses to learn fr history.

Being ‘good’ is a relatively state and up to interpretation. For example, he is trying to end the conflict in Ukraine which would save many more lives. His approach may be unorthodox but he seems to be trying to do something about it.

Reply 8

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by Wired_1800
Being ‘good’ is a relatively state and up to interpretation. For example, he is trying to end the conflict in Ukraine which would save many more lives. His approach may be unorthodox but he seems to be trying to do something about it.


How has he tried to end this conflict? Can you please guve examples and explain

Also I'm glad you said that being good us up to interpretation. A good person has good morals and does what is right. Not only is his country falling to shambles with new scandals arising everyday, Ice kiing people, epsein files, history being erased, cost of living, etc. They we have the plethora of international problems he has caused or has found a way to get involved in.

Reply 9

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by Abcees123s
How has he tried to end this conflict? Can you please guve examples and explain
Also I'm glad you said that being good us up to interpretation. A good person has good morals and does what is right. Not only is his country falling to shambles with new scandals arising everyday, Ice kiing people, epsein files, history being erased, cost of living, etc. They we have the plethora of international problems he has caused or has found a way to get involved in.

Are you not following the news or are you simply watching clips from social media?

The President has held several peace talks with Ukraine, Russia and allies. They have released peace deals and cease fire agreements. Some have been rejected by Ukraine and others have been rejected by Russia.

I don't think an objective observer who follows American news and politics would say that the US is falling into ‘shambles’. You have to be careful with the manufactured outrage, as it can influence you to think differently.

Reply 10

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by Wired_1800
Are you not following the news or are you simply watching clips from social media?
The President has held several peace talks with Ukraine, Russia and allies. They have released peace deals and cease fire agreements. Some have been rejected by Ukraine and others have been rejected by Russia.
I don't think an objective observer who follows American news and politics would say that the US is falling into ‘shambles’. You have to be careful with the manufactured outrage, as it can influence you to think differently.


All I'm hearing is that his attempts have been futile. It's good that he tried but its clearly not working.

Secondly how would ypu describe what is going on in his country then? Shouldn't a president's best interests be his citizens' welfare, yet he cannot even do that. Scandals surrounding him and his countries constantly and yes I do watch the news as well as see loads of videos on social media. For example, today I SAW a video of a man getting shot by ice.

Reply 11

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by Abcees123s
All I'm hearing is that his attempts have been futile. It's good that he tried but its clearly not working.
Secondly how would ypu describe what is going on in his country then? Shouldn't a president's best interests be his citizens' welfare, yet he cannot even do that. Scandals surrounding him and his countries constantly and yes I do watch the news as well as see loads of videos on social media. For example, today I SAW a video of a man getting shot by ice.

Surely, it is good that he is trying?

How do you mean by his citizen’s welfare? He is trying to deport illegal migrants and some are impeding that project.

Reply 12

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by Wired_1800
Surely, it is good that he is trying?
How do you mean by his citizen’s welfare? He is trying to deport illegal migrants and some are impeding that project.


Why is why I said that it is good that he tried.

Trying to deport illegal and legal immigrants as well as native americans and black americans that are here because of the slave trade. While simultaneously killing people as well like in the example I gave earlier while also causing problems internationally e.g bombing nigeria

Reply 13

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by Abcees123s
Why is why I said that it is good that he tried.
Trying to deport illegal and legal immigrants as well as native americans and black americans that are here because of the slave trade. While simultaneously killing people as well like in the example I gave earlier while also causing problems internationally e.g bombing nigeria

I dont think that’s true. The focus is on illegal migrants and majority has been illegals.

Bombing Nigeria was because of terrorism.

Reply 14

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by Wired_1800
I dont think that’s true. The focus is on illegal migrants and majority has been illegals.
Bombing Nigeria was because of terrorism.


It is true because I've seen news of native americans being detained and black amercians being unalived by ice agents unfortunately

Secondly you say that bombing Nigeria was because of terrorism, yet the bombing did nothing to help or reduce terrorism in Nigeria. The bombing only affected civilians. Also do you really believe that Trump has Niheria's best interest in mind. If you do please change that mindset because no western country has any African country's best interest in mind.

Reply 15

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by Abcees123s
Do people truly believe that Trump is a smart or good person?

Do the people of France believe that President Macron is a smart or good person?

Do the people of the UK believe Sir Keir Starmer is a smart or good person?

Did people think former President Biden was a smart or good person? And what about Kamala Harris? More people put their trust in Donald Trump than in her.

The reason why Mr Trump is subject to such constant, vituperative criticism is threefold.

First, because he is unorthodox, brash, rude and, at times, offensive.

Secondly, because he speaks his mind and acts accordingly, rather than saying one thing and doing another (a characteristic shared by the individuals mentioned above, and a good many other world leaders.)

Finally, and most importantly, he challenges the existing world order and threatens those with a vested interest in maintaining it.

As I have said many times, I do not agree with everything he does and the way he goes about doing things. But some of the problems he is attempting to solve have been left to fester for too long.

Contrary to what his opponents may say, he has had a number of striking successes at home and abroad. For example, dramatically curbing irregular migration at the US-Mexico border, facilitating the return of over 2 million undocumented migrants, instigating a peace settlement in Gaza and promoting peace negotiations in the Ukraine conflict that no-one else has been willing or able to even attempt.

If he had a bump on the head and the next day started to do what the US "coastal elite" wanted he would be lauded as a saint.
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Reply 16

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by Abcees123s
It is true because I've seen news of native americans being detained and black amercians being unalived by ice agents unfortunately
Secondly you say that bombing Nigeria was because of terrorism, yet the bombing did nothing to help or reduce terrorism in Nigeria. The bombing only affected civilians. Also do you really believe that Trump has Niheria's best interest in mind. If you do please change that mindset because no western country has any African country's best interest in mind.

"... no western country has any African country's best interest in mind."

I fear that may well be true, at least to some extent. But that's not exclusively down to President Trump: it's a feature of the prevailing world order that so many of his critics are quick to defend.

Reply 17

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by Supermature
"... no western country has any African country's best interest in mind."
I fear that may well be true, at least to some extent. But that's not exclusively down to President Trump: it's a feature of the prevailing world order that so many of his critics are quick to defend.


But nobody said it was exclusively down to trump. I'm just saying that he claims to be doing this for benefit of Nigerian Christians (as if they're the only ones being targeted) when the west never actually care about Africans and only want resources. It would probably be better if he didn't get involved.

Reply 18

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by Supermature
"... no western country has any African country's best interest in mind."
I fear that may well be true, at least to some extent. But that's not exclusively down to President Trump: it's a feature of the prevailing world order that so many of his critics are quick to defend.


Also js because people defend this order and take part in it doesn't mean its right. You're essentially saying that trump does it but others do it and defend it sooo.... but doesn't make it ok or make trump any better of a person.

Reply 19

Original post
by Abcees123s
It is true because I've seen news of native americans being detained and black amercians being unalived by ice agents unfortunately
Secondly you say that bombing Nigeria was because of terrorism, yet the bombing did nothing to help or reduce terrorism in Nigeria. The bombing only affected civilians. Also do you really believe that Trump has Niheria's best interest in mind. If you do please change that mindset because no western country has any African country's best interest in mind.

I have been critical of ICE, so I am not sure why you would blame ICE actions on Trump. Do you blame the actions of UK police on Keir Starmer.

I do not know enough about the Nigerian situation. I commented based on the media reports from the BBC.

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