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whats the cambridge medicine winter pool waiting list (not august pool)

I got rejected from my original Cambridge college for medicine today however in the email they said they liked my application and recommended me to the Winter pool and that the 'outcome is that they would like to offer me the opportunity to join the waiting list of applicants who may be offered a place if an existing offer holder chooses to withdraw'. Apparently I'll hear by the 16th May if I've been made an offer (by any college that may have a place available) so I don't think it's the same as the summer pool where you might get an offer on results day if you achieve the grades.

I feel like I've never heard of this before and it's not a listed possible outcome of the application on their website. While I'm not expecting to get an offer from the waiting list (who rejects cambridge!?) I'm still curious and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this - eg does everyone who isn't picked up from the winter pool go into it?

Thanks!

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by 07student
I got rejected from my original Cambridge college for medicine today however in the email they said they liked my application and recommended me to the Winter pool and that the 'outcome is that they would like to offer me the opportunity to join the waiting list of applicants who may be offered a place if an existing offer holder chooses to withdraw'. Apparently I'll hear by the 16th May if I've been made an offer (by any college that may have a place available) so I don't think it's the same as the summer pool where you might get an offer on results day if you achieve the grades.

I feel like I've never heard of this before and it's not a listed possible outcome of the application on their website. While I'm not expecting to get an offer from the waiting list (who rejects cambridge!?) I'm still curious and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this - eg does everyone who isn't picked up from the winter pool go into it?

Thanks!

Email the Senior Tutor of the college you applied to directly and ask them to explain this scheme as you can't find anything out about it. If it's not on the website, and as no-one has reported this in previous years, you need to go directly to the source to find out.

Reply 2

i got the same. look familiar?

Thank you for your application to study for a BA Honours degree in Medicine for entry in October 2026.We have now had time to study all our applications in detail. I regret to tell you that, after carefully considering your application and all the information available to us, we are unable to offer you a place.However, we have sufficient confidence in your abilities and potential to recommend you to the intercollegiate Winter Pool and the outcome is that we would like to offer you the opportunity to join the waiting list of applicants who may be offered a place if an existing offer holder chooses to withdraw. Please note that this offer would be made by the College where the vacancy arises. If you wish to be placed on our waiting list, you must provide your consent by completing this form: Medicine Waiting List Response Form. There is no guarantee that it will be possible to offer you a place. If you choose to join our waiting list, it will not prevent you from pursuing applications and accepting offers at other universities. Your consent to be on the waiting list will be taken as a request for us to contact you in the event that a place becomes available, even if you are holding a place elsewhere. Any offers made to applicants on our waiting list will be made by 12 May 2026 at the latest. If you receive an offer of a place at Cambridge, you will be free to choose whether to accept it or to continue to pursue opportunities elsewhere.If you would like to receive feedback on your application and have given permission for this to be provided to your UCAS referee, please ask your referee to contact the College Admissions Office. Otherwise, please contact the College Admissions Office yourself.I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for applying and express the hope that it may be possible for XXXX or another College to offer you a place to study at Cambridge.Yours sincerely,
Original post
by 07student
I got rejected from my original Cambridge college for medicine today however in the email they said they liked my application and recommended me to the Winter pool and that the 'outcome is that they would like to offer me the opportunity to join the waiting list of applicants who may be offered a place if an existing offer holder chooses to withdraw'. Apparently I'll hear by the 16th May if I've been made an offer (by any college that may have a place available) so I don't think it's the same as the summer pool where you might get an offer on results day if you achieve the grades.

I feel like I've never heard of this before and it's not a listed possible outcome of the application on their website. While I'm not expecting to get an offer from the waiting list (who rejects cambridge!?) I'm still curious and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this - eg does everyone who isn't picked up from the winter pool go into it?

Thanks!


It sounds like it is exactly as it is: You were very narrowly rejected and, if spaces come from applicants not accepting their offers, you are welcome to join a waitlist. Medicine places are capped and controlled by the UK government so, unlike other subjects, the university has very little leeway regarding having a slightly larger cohort if there is more excellent students than usual.

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by Sid246
i got the same. look familiar?
Thank you for your application to study for a BA Honours degree in Medicine for entry in October 2026.We have now had time to study all our applications in detail. I regret to tell you that, after carefully considering your application and all the information available to us, we are unable to offer you a place.However, we have sufficient confidence in your abilities and potential to recommend you to the intercollegiate Winter Pool and the outcome is that we would like to offer you the opportunity to join the waiting list of applicants who may be offered a place if an existing offer holder chooses to withdraw. Please note that this offer would be made by the College where the vacancy arises. If you wish to be placed on our waiting list, you must provide your consent by completing this form: Medicine Waiting List Response Form. There is no guarantee that it will be possible to offer you a place. If you choose to join our waiting list, it will not prevent you from pursuing applications and accepting offers at other universities. Your consent to be on the waiting list will be taken as a request for us to contact you in the event that a place becomes available, even if you are holding a place elsewhere. Any offers made to applicants on our waiting list will be made by 12 May 2026 at the latest. If you receive an offer of a place at Cambridge, you will be free to choose whether to accept it or to continue to pursue opportunities elsewhere.If you would like to receive feedback on your application and have given permission for this to be provided to your UCAS referee, please ask your referee to contact the College Admissions Office. Otherwise, please contact the College Admissions Office yourself.I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for applying and express the hope that it may be possible for XXXX or another College to offer you a place to study at Cambridge.Yours sincerely,

yes that's exactly what i got!! honestly not expecting to get anything as i can't imagine more than like 2 people withdraw their place...

Reply 5

Is this something completely new that has been introduced this year only?? And only for medicine??

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by Hellobello988666
Is this something completely new that has been introduced this year only?? And only for medicine??

I have searched high and low as it effects me and i havent been able to find out much. Not much in public domain so I assume it is first time.

To tell ya truth whilst its not great for me as I am on wait list but it is much more rational than alternative.

I remember going to Sheffield open day and went to Med lecture. The admission tutor was at pains to point how he calculated how many offers he had to give to land at the number of firm acceptances

This method they have now they have 280 places they make 280 offers and have say 20 places on wait list any of the 280 that defer to next year or refuse whatever reason are then replaced with eager beavers who are on wait list and who are not prejudiced as they can accept 2 alternate offers. So for example I am on wait list i can accept 2 offers if i get any more offers and i can keep my aspirational just in case

Reply 7

Does the waiting list mention on the email just for the people who has been rejected after winter pool and not eligible for ARP?

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by Anonymous
Does the waiting list mention on the email just for the people who has been rejected after winter pool and not eligible for ARP?

this is a copy of what they sent me:

Thank you for your application to study for a BA Honours degree in Medicine for entry in October 2026.We have now had time to study all our applications in detail. I regret to tell you that, after carefully considering your application and all the information available to us, we are unable to offer you a place.However, we have sufficient confidence in your abilities and potential to recommend you to the intercollegiate Winter Pool and the outcome is that we would like to offer you the opportunity to join the waiting list of applicants who may be offered a place if an existing offer holder chooses to withdraw. Please note that this offer would be made by the College where the vacancy arises. If you wish to be placed on our waiting list, you must provide your consent by completing this form: Medicine Waiting List Response Form. There is no guarantee that it will be possible to offer you a place. If you choose to join our waiting list, it will not prevent you from pursuing applications and accepting offers at other universities. Your consent to be on the waiting list will be taken as a request for us to contact you in the event that a place becomes available, even if you are holding a place elsewhere. Any offers made to applicants on our waiting list will be made by 12 May 2026 at the latest. If you receive an offer of a place at Cambridge, you will be free to choose whether to accept it or to continue to pursue opportunities elsewhere.If you would like to receive feedback on your application and have given permission for this to be provided to your UCAS referee, please ask your referee to contact the College Admissions Office. Otherwise, please contact the College Admissions Office yourself.I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for applying and express the hope that it may be possible for XXXX or another College to offer you a place to study at Cambridge.Yours sincerely,

Reply 9

Anyone have any idea on how many people defer a year after receiving an offer?

Reply 10

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by Sid246
this is a copy of what they sent me:
Thank you for your application to study for a BA Honours degree in Medicine for entry in October 2026.We have now had time to study all our applications in detail. I regret to tell you that, after carefully considering your application and all the information available to us, we are unable to offer you a place.However, we have sufficient confidence in your abilities and potential to recommend you to the intercollegiate Winter Pool and the outcome is that we would like to offer you the opportunity to join the waiting list of applicants who may be offered a place if an existing offer holder chooses to withdraw. Please note that this offer would be made by the College where the vacancy arises. If you wish to be placed on our waiting list, you must provide your consent by completing this form: Medicine Waiting List Response Form. There is no guarantee that it will be possible to offer you a place. If you choose to join our waiting list, it will not prevent you from pursuing applications and accepting offers at other universities. Your consent to be on the waiting list will be taken as a request for us to contact you in the event that a place becomes available, even if you are holding a place elsewhere. Any offers made to applicants on our waiting list will be made by 12 May 2026 at the latest. If you receive an offer of a place at Cambridge, you will be free to choose whether to accept it or to continue to pursue opportunities elsewhere.If you would like to receive feedback on your application and have given permission for this to be provided to your UCAS referee, please ask your referee to contact the College Admissions Office. Otherwise, please contact the College Admissions Office yourself.I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for applying and express the hope that it may be possible for XXXX or another College to offer you a place to study at Cambridge.Yours sincerely,


Thank you. Can I ask of your stats?

Reply 11

Never heard of this before and tbh Cambridge poaching medicine candidates from other institutions is not a great move imo.Also reduces chances of ARP and Summer Pool candidates.Exactly how ethical is it to keep so many people dangling!
Original post
by Sid246
this is a copy of what they sent me:

Thank you for your application to study for a BA Honours degree in Medicine for entry in October 2026.We have now had time to study all our applications in detail. I regret to tell you that, after carefully considering your application and all the information available to us, we are unable to offer you a place.However, we have sufficient confidence in your abilities and potential to recommend you to the intercollegiate Winter Pool and the outcome is that we would like to offer you the opportunity to join the waiting list of applicants who may be offered a place if an existing offer holder chooses to withdraw. Please note that this offer would be made by the College where the vacancy arises. If you wish to be placed on our waiting list, you must provide your consent by completing this form: Medicine Waiting List Response Form. There is no guarantee that it will be possible to offer you a place. If you choose to join our waiting list, it will not prevent you from pursuing applications and accepting offers at other universities. Your consent to be on the waiting list will be taken as a request for us to contact you in the event that a place becomes available, even if you are holding a place elsewhere. Any offers made to applicants on our waiting list will be made by 12 May 2026 at the latest. If you receive an offer of a place at Cambridge, you will be free to choose whether to accept it or to continue to pursue opportunities elsewhere.If you would like to receive feedback on your application and have given permission for this to be provided to your UCAS referee, please ask your referee to contact the College Admissions Office. Otherwise, please contact the College Admissions Office yourself.I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for applying and express the hope that it may be possible for XXXX or another College to offer you a place to study at Cambridge.Yours sincerely,


So this seems to be a Medicine only equivalent of ARP, but without the conditions around disadvantage etc. Cambridge is clearly dissatisfied with the number of high quality students it has to turn away, and combined with more volatility in candidates taking up places, has come up with a scheme to give folks a second chance.
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by Scotney
Never heard of this before and tbh Cambridge poaching medicine candidates from other institutions is not a great move imo.Also reduces chances of ARP and Summer Pool candidates.Exactly how ethical is it to keep so many people dangling!

It doesn't work like this though.

Poaching - Cam has much tighter 'over-offer' limits than other universities. There is clearly some increased volatility in students taking up offers for medicine (going overseas, taking gap years, deciding against medicine maybe?) and the margins at Cam are a fraction of those at say Bristol, Edinburgh etc. So Cam isn't poaching, these offer holders haven't started, Cam are just tightening the margins in other places.

It doesn't necessarily reduce the chances of ARP and Summer Pool candidates, we don't know how they 'rank' these three different categories of 'second chance'. It has become clear over the first few years of ARP that grades being equal, ARP candidates get priority having achieved the same grades under more challenging circumstances and probably with less opportunity. But also - why would it matter if it did? Cambridge and Oxford are unequivocal about their pursuit of academic excellence. If you just miss out on an offer against another candidate, but on results day against an offer of A*A*A, they get A*AA and miss the offer, meanwhile you get A*A*A*, why don't you deserve the place?

The question about keeping people dangling conflates emotion with fairness. How you as an individual react to an offer, a rejection, or a second chance is an emotional response entirely in your control. There's absolutely no need to catastrophise everything, or view the world through a black and white lens of opportunity and failure, or to be irrationally bound to hope or possibility. Ethics are emotionally neutral, the ethical question is is it fair to make an exception that allows someone who missed their offer to take up a place, when previously rejected candidates, rejected on a hairsbreadth of uncertainty, come results day have exceeded the offer standard?

What this new scheme seems to be doing is trying to resolve the past history of candidates getting rejected and then receiving A*A*A*A* on results day and wondering what might have been if only they'd answered that one interview question slightly more smoothly.

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by threeportdrift
It doesn't work like this though.
Poaching - Cam has much tighter 'over-offer' limits than other universities. There is clearly some increased volatility in students taking up offers for medicine (going overseas, taking gap years, deciding against medicine maybe?) and the margins at Cam are a fraction of those at say Bristol, Edinburgh etc. So Cam isn't poaching, these offer holders haven't started, Cam are just tightening the margins in other places.
It doesn't necessarily reduce the chances of ARP and Summer Pool candidates, we don't know how they 'rank' these three different categories of 'second chance'. It has become clear over the first few years of ARP that grades being equal, ARP candidates get priority having achieved the same grades under more challenging circumstances and probably with less opportunity. But also - why would it matter if it did? Cambridge and Oxford are unequivocal about their pursuit of academic excellence. If you just miss out on an offer against another candidate, but on results day against an offer of A*A*A, they get A*AA and miss the offer, meanwhile you get A*A*A*, why don't you deserve the place?
The question about keeping people dangling conflates emotion with fairness. How you as an individual react to an offer, a rejection, or a second chance is an emotional response entirely in your control. There's absolutely no need to catastrophise everything, or view the world through a black and white lens of opportunity and failure, or to be irrationally bound to hope or possibility. Ethics are emotionally neutral, the ethical question is is it fair to make an exception that allows someone who missed their offer to take up a place, when previously rejected candidates, rejected on a hairsbreadth of uncertainty, come results day have exceeded the offer standard?
What this new scheme seems to be doing is trying to resolve the past history of candidates getting rejected and then receiving A*A*A*A* on results day and wondering what might have been if only they'd answered that one interview question slightly more smoothly.
just one flaw in your response the wait list letter states we will be informed in May if we get an offer well before we know what result we get so

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by Sid246
just one flaw in your response the wait list letter states we will be informed in May if we get an offer well before we know what result we get so

Exactly.

Reply 16

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by Sid246
just one flaw in your response the wait list letter states we will be informed in May if we get an offer well before we know what result we get so

It reduces chances for ARP and summer pool by filling gaps due to non acceptance before A levels are taken.So stands to reason less places.
The reason I do not like ARP as it is the applicants from deprived backgrounds who are made to jump through extra hoops because Cambridge cannot get over it's bias towards privileges pupils earlier in the process like Oxford does.
Have heard from ARP students it makes them feel lesser and suffer imposter syndrome.Also the you get 4A* and you are in is not true.It is all Cambridge gains but at what cost.Mental Health should be valued in young people
Even financially a lot of students have already paid deposits on accommodation which again hits poorer students much harder than privileged ones.
ARP no longer gets preference over summer pool,they are run concurrently.
ARP absolutely is poaching
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Reply 17

@MedMama what do you think?

Reply 18

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by Scotney
@MedMama what do you think?

Oh yea love to know what you think @MedMama followed your guidance on where to apply as well

Reply 19

Original post
by Scotney
It reduces chances for ARP and summer pool by filling gaps due to non acceptance before A levels are taken.So stands to reason less places.
The reason I do not like ARP as it is the applicants from deprived backgrounds who are made to jump through extra hoops because Cambridge cannot get over it's bias towards privileges pupils earlier in the process like Oxford does.
Have heard from ARP students it makes them feel lesser and suffer imposter syndrome.Also the you get 4A* and you are in is not true.It is all Cambridge gains but at what cost.Mental Health should be valued in young people
Even financially a lot of students have already paid deposits on accommodation which again hits poorer students much harder than privileged ones.
ARP no longer gets preference over summer pool,they are run concurrently.
ARP absolutely is poaching

@scotney what is ARP and summer pool. I thought Summer pool was sort of widening participation if you qualified to certain conditions and got the average offer or above you could be reconsidered

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