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SIXTH FORMS, Kings college maths school, brampton or NCS?

Hey everyone.
If you want to study at oxbridge, i know that your alevel results are completely dependant on your performance. However, chosing from Kings college maths school, brampton manor academy and NCS , which is the best pick?

If you go to any of the institutions mentioned above, could you please tell me your experience there. thanks!

Reply 1

Kings:
I'll just list out my reasons here :biggrin:

Brilliant academic teaching and resources.

Access to KCL (uni) libraries and buildings

Teachers are amazing - really passionate and fun to learn from (i think majority were oxbridge students fyi)

Maths exam board is MEI B btw

physics exam board is AQA

Collaboration with other students is an integral part of KCLMS - it can be a bit weird at the start, but you will find that its really fun, productive and also great preparation for uni thinking about it. :smile:

Yeah, I met so many intelligent and cool people. Everyone's really friendly and its great just working on a problem together bouncing ideas back and forth.

Kings certificate (KC) year 12 - a group EPQ (team of 4) where you work with an academic or person in industry (over 5-6 months I believe?) to solve a problem they set and write and present your findings at the end of the year. e.g investigating dark matter

Orbyts (hosted by UCL)

Due to KC, EPQ is only available in year 13.

Free trips to theatre, concerts, galleries and other things to encourage students to experience things they may not have the opportunity to usually. (e.g. les miserables, hamilton, etc)

A camping trip with the year

A study retreat in spring

There's actually a lot more, but its too much for me to write. Definitely visit an open day if you can :0

If you're more interested in going here because you want to study at oxbridge, well..... it probably does increase your chance of being offered in the sense of the amount of admissions prep done at KCLMS and all the super curricular you do, but you would need to put in the work to be able to use it effectively and not waste it.

Going to KCLMS does not guarantee an oxbridge offer, but I do think it is better at preparing its students for the admissions process. Apply if you want to be challenged! :biggrin:

Reply 2

Original post
by HungryFish
Kings:
I'll just list out my reasons here :biggrin:

Brilliant academic teaching and resources.

Access to KCL (uni) libraries and buildings

Teachers are amazing - really passionate and fun to learn from (i think majority were oxbridge students fyi)

Maths exam board is MEI B btw

physics exam board is AQA

Collaboration with other students is an integral part of KCLMS - it can be a bit weird at the start, but you will find that its really fun, productive and also great preparation for uni thinking about it. :smile:

Yeah, I met so many intelligent and cool people. Everyone's really friendly and its great just working on a problem together bouncing ideas back and forth.

Kings certificate (KC) year 12 - a group EPQ (team of 4) where you work with an academic or person in industry (over 5-6 months I believe?) to solve a problem they set and write and present your findings at the end of the year. e.g investigating dark matter

Orbyts (hosted by UCL)

Due to KC, EPQ is only available in year 13.

Free trips to theatre, concerts, galleries and other things to encourage students to experience things they may not have the opportunity to usually. (e.g. les miserables, hamilton, etc)

A camping trip with the year

A study retreat in spring

There's actually a lot more, but its too much for me to write. Definitely visit an open day if you can :0
If you're more interested in going here because you want to study at oxbridge, well..... it probably does increase your chance of being offered in the sense of the amount of admissions prep done at KCLMS and all the super curricular you do, but you would need to put in the work to be able to use it effectively and not waste it.
Going to KCLMS does not guarantee an oxbridge offer, but I do think it is better at preparing its students for the admissions process. Apply if you want to be challenged! :biggrin:

Thanks for the reply, this is really useful! As someone who wants to study in STEM in the future, I heard that Oxbridge prefers people with 4 Alevels, althought they may not say it, I am currently doing the clickcambridge programme, where they stated 4 A-level with good results can increase the chances of getting into Oxbridge.I know that Kings Maths School offers only 3 A-levels.... would this anyhow put me down?

Reply 3

Original post
by HungryFish
Kings:
I'll just list out my reasons here :biggrin:

Brilliant academic teaching and resources.

Access to KCL (uni) libraries and buildings

Teachers are amazing - really passionate and fun to learn from (i think majority were oxbridge students fyi)

Maths exam board is MEI B btw

physics exam board is AQA

Collaboration with other students is an integral part of KCLMS - it can be a bit weird at the start, but you will find that its really fun, productive and also great preparation for uni thinking about it. :smile:

Yeah, I met so many intelligent and cool people. Everyone's really friendly and its great just working on a problem together bouncing ideas back and forth.

Kings certificate (KC) year 12 - a group EPQ (team of 4) where you work with an academic or person in industry (over 5-6 months I believe?) to solve a problem they set and write and present your findings at the end of the year. e.g investigating dark matter

Orbyts (hosted by UCL)

Due to KC, EPQ is only available in year 13.

Free trips to theatre, concerts, galleries and other things to encourage students to experience things they may not have the opportunity to usually. (e.g. les miserables, hamilton, etc)

A camping trip with the year

A study retreat in spring

There's actually a lot more, but its too much for me to write. Definitely visit an open day if you can :0
If you're more interested in going here because you want to study at oxbridge, well..... it probably does increase your chance of being offered in the sense of the amount of admissions prep done at KCLMS and all the super curricular you do, but you would need to put in the work to be able to use it effectively and not waste it.
Going to KCLMS does not guarantee an oxbridge offer, but I do think it is better at preparing its students for the admissions process. Apply if you want to be challenged! :biggrin:

Another question, Does KCLMS offer a lot of support for Ivy League applications?

Reply 4

Not too sure about Oxford since I preferred Cambridge's admissions process, but I can say that Cambridge at least does not mind really at all if you have taken just 3 A-levels, as long as you've shown that you are mathematically capable/ excellent and you can communicate your thinking- that really is the most important part. Everyone who applied physical natural sciences (that also revolves around chemistry) was offered a place with only maths, F maths and physics - so don't worry about not having a fourth in this case. The topics taught are structured so that your learning in maths reinforces your learning in physics (e.g. differential equations link to simple harmonic motion) which I find really helpful and I guess simpler?

Btw, you can do additional A-levels or AS-levels if you want (even languages or GCSE resits)- KCLMS will sign you up, but you'll have to pay for the entrance fee and do your own studies. If so, take care to manage your time since the timetable of KCLMS is quite hefty - only about 2 free periods a week, since we dedicate time to Challenge sessions (prep for admissions) and other extra-curricular things.

In response to your Ivy league question, I am less familiar with the process, but I can say:

There have been and are students applying and been accepted to Ivy leagues, so the teachers definitely provide some support like reading your statements and giving feedback.

They'll help you understand the process of applying to the US, but what they probably only add to your application is the teachers' reference.


What subject are you looking to study beyond A-level?

Reply 5

i got an offer from KCLMS, so im planning to study Maths, FM, Physics and AS Econ. For university, My goal is to go to Cambridge and study engineering. I am particularly interested in Aerospace. However , I have one concern for now and that is currently in my school , I am the most able in maths. However, everyone in KCLMS will be way more advanced in the maths field than me. I've met people who are in yr 11 who have been doing the BMO since year 9, are doing AS Maths currently and some are also doing TMUA prep (which is quite early, but it shows how ahead they are). Compared to them, I am really behind. My knowledge is very closed within GCSE Curriculum, so I'm not sure if this kind of environment would let be down or intimidate me.

Reply 6

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by artemas489
i got an offer from KCLMS, so im planning to study Maths, FM, Physics and AS Econ. For university, My goal is to go to Cambridge and study engineering. I am particularly interested in Aerospace. However , I have one concern for now and that is currently in my school , I am the most able in maths. However, everyone in KCLMS will be way more advanced in the maths field than me. I've met people who are in yr 11 who have been doing the BMO since year 9, are doing AS Maths currently and some are also doing TMUA prep (which is quite early, but it shows how ahead they are). Compared to them, I am really behind. My knowledge is very closed within GCSE Curriculum, so I'm not sure if this kind of environment would let be down or intimidate me.

Most people in the year will feel the same- imposter syndrome can be heavy in the first 3 months and put you down, but please don't let this deter you. I think that because it's a new environment and everyone was the best at maths from their schools, everyone feels like they have something to prove. I never took the maths or physics challenges seriously in secondary, so it was a bit of a shock of how locked in some people were about it in year 12. But in retrospect, being humbled was quite an important and inevitable experience that really confirmed that KCLMS was the best place to be, since I was surrounded by people better than me it really pushed me to work hard and be a better problem solver over the year. I'm glad I was humbled 😆 - better now than later right?

I think that after the first few months, once you've gotten to know your year group and "find your people", it gets exponentially better. Your classmates aren't competition or rivals - they're there to support you and work with you - that's what I really like about KCLMS - everyone's got such a happy and positive vibe. You're not going to get bullied or looked down on if that's what's worrying you - I actually think that the school tries quite hard to make you feel at ease at the start- you'll definitely get a few assemblies on that.

In terms of academics, yep, I would definitely recommend looking and getting familiar with the syllabus of your A-level subjects - especially AS economics (if you didn't do the GCSE). For maths, the teaching style at KCLMS prefers that you have not already studied the content because they like deriving it from the most basic principles - understanding why a method works and how. Just learning off an exam paper (ie. "Apply this method for this question") is a big NO. For example, you won't ever see a KCLMS student use a CAST diagram to solve trig equations- just draw the functions out! Oh yeah, get ready to draw a lot of graphs if you go.

You would be doing the ESAT for engineering, but TMUA is good practice for the maths modules. The only issue is that you can't do TMUA without the AS/ A-level knowledge beforehand. But good news, most of the content for the ESAT is covered before the October sitting - some bits of physics like capacitance and electromagnetism may need to be revised or learnt ahead of the KCLMS schedule as heads up. It's a bit early to start- don't stress and prepare when you feel you're ready - start of summer holidays perhaps? Getting the predicted grades is more important anyway in year 12.

Main point, if you feel that people around you are better than you - good! That's where you want to be. Feels pretty rubbish at the start, but in the long term it's incredibly beneficial. You'll be taking different paths for university - some are more maths focused, others physics, economics or CS driven - and everyone's aiming for the best. No one there is going to try to drag you down - only yourself.

Oh btw, for engineering, I think KCLMS may do the UK Space Design Challenge - if the current year 12s continue it for your year, so get involved if you can. It inspired a lot of my friends to write about in the personal statement. You can do it independently too with your own group (not with school) if you really want as well.
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Reply 7

Original post
by HungryFish
Most people in the year will feel the same- imposter syndrome can be heavy in the first 3 months and put you down, but please don't let this deter you. I think that because it's a new environment and everyone was the best at maths from their schools, everyone feels like they have something to prove. I never took the maths or physics challenges seriously in secondary, so it was a bit of a shock of how locked in some people were about it in year 12. But in retrospect, being humbled was quite an important and inevitable experience that really confirmed that KCLMS was the best place to be, since I was surrounded by people better than me it really pushed me to work hard and be a better problem solver over the year. I'm glad I was humbled 😆 - better now than later right?
I think that after the first few months, once you've gotten to know your year group and "find your people", it gets exponentially better. Your classmates aren't competition or rivals - they're there to support you and work with you - that's what I really like about KCLMS - everyone's got such a happy and positive vibe. You're not going to get bullied or looked down on if that's what's worrying you - I actually think that the school tries quite hard to make you feel at ease at the start- you'll definitely get a few assemblies on that.
In terms of academics, yep, I would definitely recommend looking and getting familiar with the syllabus of your A-level subjects - especially AS economics (if you didn't do the GCSE). For maths, the teaching style at KCLMS prefers that you have not already studied the content because they like deriving it from the most basic principles - understanding why a method works and how. Just learning off an exam paper (ie. "Apply this method for this question") is a big NO. For example, you won't ever see a KCLMS student use a CAST diagram to solve trig equations- just draw the functions out! Oh yeah, get ready to draw a lot of graphs if you go.
You would be doing the ESAT for engineering, but TMUA is good practice for the maths modules. The only issue is that you can't do TMUA without the AS/ A-level knowledge beforehand. But good news, most of the content for the ESAT is covered before the October sitting - some bits of physics like capacitance and electromagnetism may need to be revised or learnt ahead of the KCLMS schedule as heads up. It's a bit early to start- don't stress and prepare when you feel you're ready - start of summer holidays perhaps? Getting the predicted grades is more important anyway in year 12.
Main point, if you feel that people around you are better than you - good! That's where you want to be. Feels pretty rubbish at the start, but in the long term it's incredibly beneficial. You'll be taking different paths for university - some are more maths focused, others physics, economics or CS driven - and everyone's aiming for the best. No one there is going to try to drag you down - only yourself.
Oh btw, for engineering, I think KCLMS may do the UK Space Design Challenge - if the current year 12s continue it for your year, so get involved if you can. It inspired a lot of my friends to write about in the personal statement. You can do it independently too with your own group (not with school) if you really want as well.

Oh that is great! i did UKSDC 2025, and I was concerned because KCLMS didn't say anything about it on the taster day

Reply 8

In terms of raw numbers, Brampton does send quite a few more people to Oxbridge, though percentage wise Kings sends a couple more. However, I would argue the super curriculars available at NCS or Brampton are much bigger than Kings.

Reply 9

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by artemas489
Oh that is great! i did UKSDC 2025, and I was concerned because KCLMS didn't say anything about it on the taster day

Awesome! That's good to hear.

Yep, it seems that Brampton and NCS are very good schools. Depends if you'd rather go to a specialist STEM school or a more rounded one I guess. But I will also add that the super-curriculars at King's are very qualitive and are absolutely fantastic to write about in your personal statement if you feel you haven't got much to say in great depth (quality > quantity argument).

Also, KCLMS will help you find work experience if you're in need of some. You can search up which companies are partnered with KCLMS on the website.

Reply 10

thanks, may i also ask, what are some disadvantages of attending KCLMS. The distance from my location to kclms is about 1 hour 15 mins

Reply 11

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by artemas489
thanks, may i also ask, what are some disadvantages of attending KCLMS. The distance from my location to kclms is about 1 hour 15 mins

Probably how ugly it the school looks externally is something used to think about a lot. Inside is fine.

School doesn't provide fresh hot meals - there are free snacks and food at lunchtime and breakfast club. You can also request the school for subsidies for food purchases in some cases. There are 4 microwaves to heat your food.

A big disadvantage or at least difference to other schools is the lack of free periods. You may only get 1 or 2 a week. The timetable is quite busy - but manageable. I think other schools give students around 10 free periods.

Some people have commuted around 3-4hrs each day. This isn't that big of an issue if you are able to work or relax as you commute.

You must do sport on Fridays - but you can pick out of a list of options: football, basketball, tennis, gym, boxing, badminton...

Ehhhh... there aren't a lot of disadvantages - KCLMS is a pretty fun place to be.

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