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Durham versus King's College London

I have received conditional offers for Music from both universities above. I can't decide. Can anyone advise on pros and cons for each one.
Thank you.

Reply 1

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by ethananholm
I have received conditional offers for Music from both universities above. I can't decide. Can anyone advise on pros and cons for each one.
Thank you.

I can't speak for the course, but l do know a bit about KCL. It is has a better global reputation over Durham as a uni, and is very multicultural. Departmental buildings are scattered throughout central London, although the best parts of the uni are located in the Strand and Holborn areas. As a lot of first year students live in private accommodation, or commute from their family home, you will have to join a few societies to make friends outside of your course. This is a must. The main benefit of coming to KCL is definitely for the prestige associated with it's name, as well as the multinational vibe of London. Part-time jobs are plentiful should you wish to work on the side.

Durham will offer you more in terms of the all-round uni experience. First years are practically guaranteed uni accommodation in one of the 17 colleges (halls of residences in all but name). Some colleges are beautiful (University College in particular), whilst most look just like ordinary halls of residences. In college accommodation students will try to recreate the Oxbridge vibe by wearing formal gowns and taking part in regular formal dinners, but in truth it is all pretentious and superficial. Most people outside of the UK and Ireland have never heard of Durham, and it certainly isn't a truly World class university across the board, although it does really excel in the Humanities, Law and English. No idea about music though.

Durham is a very small, quiet historical city, and the uni is also quite small. You would definitely need to visit the place to see if you could see yourself studying there for 3 years. Although there are plenty of international students at Durham, most students will be from the UK (especially from the southeast of England).

Reply 2

Original post
by ethananholm
I have received conditional offers for Music from both universities above. I can't decide. Can anyone advise on pros and cons for each one.
Thank you.

Hi! Congrats on your offers 🥳

Both universities are exceptional and can offer you supportive, immersive education, as well as a well-rounded university life experience. I can only speak on the Durham experience, but choose the university which if the best fit for you!

Durham Pros:

Collegiate system - 17 colleges, strong smaller community, student satisfaction with most colleges obtaining private music suites, multiple societies (Big Band, Choir, College showcases etc.) as well as university level music societies and performance opportunities.

Living cost is generally lower than London

Excellent graduate outcomes

High in UK University rankings - Times University of the Year !!

Cohesive campus feel, everything is in a short distance


Durham Cons:

Smaller city - fewer entertainment and diverse opportunities

Weather is a bit more drab (but the snow is magical!)


Have a look at this playlist of blogs and social media content about real student's experiences studying or playing music in Durham - Music - The Durham Student

Good luck in your studies!!

Reply 3

Have you visited both in-person and compared the course content/structures at both? I would strongly advise attending the successful applicant open days and not making decisions until you've been on those.

Also do look at uni-specific bursaries/scholarships if relevant. That was the way I tried deciding between music courses back in the day (2006/early 2007)! :shakecane:

Reply 4

KCL also has the benefit (at least somewhat) of being associated with the RAM if you are interested in performance. There are varying accounts of what this actually means though, so probably best to take with a pinch of salt.

Reply 5

Hi ,
They are both good universities. I studied at both so I may have some value.
I do know why the first responder placed KCL as more globally recognised but actually Durham is a very prestigious university in that it requires very high entry grades and standards from its students and it has consistently been in the top universities nationally for music and indeed it is ranked the top for its music this year 2026. Now we all know that these ranking systems have various agendas but honestly I heard the ranking explained and the system is pretty much accurately across the various ranking boards. So Durham is extremely highly placed for its music degree. Obviously Oxbridge is going to be more prestigious no matter what anyone says and this is indisputable for the quality of its opportunities to its students, so I would advise studying there.That's just my honest opinion. But Durham is at the top and there are only a handful of really good music degree courses out there in my opinion now.
Durham has the pros of close knit environment- not to be underestimated as a first year undergraduate. Everything is a little more unified and less physically scattered than in London. As it is a very prestigious music degree many graduates go on to work in music but it is a very academic centred course. (By the way, wherever you go you will find the ethnomusicologists have rather taken over music degrees but that's another story and its a bugbear of mine, if you want to study Western Classical Music Durham is a good option but it has a fair amount of ethnomusicologist in its staff but you only have to study a module in your first year and honestly as I've said music academia is overrun by ethomusicology nationally and people falling over themselves to 'decolonise the curriculum' away from the Western Classical canon so you just have to politely nod and get on with the study if you actually want to study Bach, Mozart and Beethoven etc...,. )There are many orchestras and choirs. Competition is definitely present because you have to audition for them so be ready, but once the third years move on you can usually get in. The music societies are run by the students which does mean that you have to network. The academics have no input in them. Overall these days the department offers a fairly good range of modules to study with more individual choices in 2nd and 3rd year. You can apply for a music scholarship or bursary depending on your situation, There is a prestigious Vice Chancellor's Scholarship which can be applied for but only 25 in the university each year and open to elite sports as well as music so you have to be very good. Each college has practice rooms and the department also - like most universities these days you have to book ahead to get your slot so its less free than at home and the university decided to go all Steinway pianos .( I think that is fabulous in some ways but as that contract would have come with a hefty fee for Steinway maintenance I would have thought twice about it myself as the money could have been better used in my opinion for the department in other ways but still, it means the pianos are of a good standard and one of them in the department itself is an exceptional piano. )In summary, at Durham the student is cushioned particularly in the first year by a collegiate 'family' and everything is within walking distance and the stresses of London commute and initial bewilderment are lessened. Adjusting to university and making friends can be hard initially, best approached as an adventure, but on the whole Durham is better placed to allow a smoother transition than the London locations for obvious reasons . It may not matter but it is a spectacularly beautiful location as well and the Music department is up on the Cathedral site so seconds away form the rich musical life of the cathedral and the medieval streets. Some students love that sense of history and it informs their studies.
On the con side. Durham is clearly very far north. Fast trains from the south will get you there in 3 to 4 hours . The Music life of the city is largely dominated by the student musicians so its vital and buzzing. The professional Musicon series by the university invites musicians to perform but as far as I can see lately, it seems to be the ethomusicology World music dominant and they should watch that in my opinion and get more western classical music performed.( It's evident that is what the students themselves are performing in their choices of symphonies and concertos etc but these pesky ethomusicologists will have their day !.you'll find the same in KCL - they're all desperate to do research away from classical , its a trend that has momentum amonst the academics because they can get research funding for something 'new') Up that far you need to realise that performers often skip Durham and tperform in Newcastle which has a fabulous concert hall. This is the best bet and it's only 12 minutes away from Durham on the train. The students go there to hear the greet performers. I would love to have seen a really proper concert venue built at Durham for the musical life of the city, Most concerts happen in the Cathedral which is lovely but immediately you can imagine there are acoustic challenges, or the small yet lovely concert/ lecture theatre in the music department which only holds a few hundred, or the local churches. The university sent millions on a really fantastic new business school and I wish it had been able to build on a concert hall there as well because it needs one.

With KCL , what can I say? Here you will have access to world class concert halls and venues and musicians from chamber to recitals to opera. It doesn't get better, I don't know a lot about their music degree as I studied music at Durham and another subject at KCL but Ive had a look at the ie music degree and it looks very good. Im sure you can compare the modules and decide what is best for you. I would recommend different things depending on your outlook but overall I'd be looking for a good academic degree in musicology which prepared you for a broad overview and some specialisation but mainly a good academic underpinning of Wester classical music. You get my drift, go somewhere else for Hip Hop modules if that's your thing but I think Music degrees should be largely traditional but that's just my opinion. London holds many opportunities as I've said to taste music life and this is because its a capital city and many , Wigmore, Barbican, Royal Opera House etc offer massive discounts for those under 25. That said , you will be doing a degree, and you have to factor in that a lot of study and time needs to go into that ad in London it can be hard to navigate the travel and disjointed locations and also the fragmentary nature of this coupled with the fact that if you are in halls of residence you will be with many young people all studying at different locations and its can be tricky because its so spread out , to form attachments. I think it can be lonelier and this is also true as you struggle to connect at Durham initially but it is far and wide accepted that Durham is easier socially and that this helps to contribute to wellbeing and a feeling of belonging as you settle in. I do think that the psychology of choosib=ng a university can be instinctive but you need a cool head and to ask opinions and ultimately to decide what matters .

In summary, there are great things about both and you just have to decide what speaks to your heart and your logic. Music is a superb study and not to be underestimated. You will spend three precious years growing up and maturing and it's worth taking a step back and listening to a many people to distill what's important. Go to see both.
For me, Durham was better of the two at that tender stage of my life because the environment allows more time to settle in , to think and to study successfully if you are inexperienced in living any from home, for the first time, I think this also matters . Also be aware Durham has a very high rate of students meeting their life long love and partner!!!! Its actually true!
hope this helps a little 👍️
(edited 1 month ago)

Reply 6

Original post
by MOrla
Hi ,
They are both good universities. I studied at both so I may have some value.
I do know why the first responder placed KCL as more globally recognised but actually Durham is a very prestigious university in that it requires very high entry grades and standards from its students and it has consistently been in the top universities nationally for music and indeed it is ranked the top for its music this year 2026. Now we all know that these ranking systems have various agendas but honestly I heard the ranking explained and the system is pretty much accurately across the various ranking boards. So Durham is extremely highly placed for its music degree. Obviously Oxbridge is going to be more prestigious no matter what anyone says and this is indisputable for the quality of its opportunities to its students, so I would advise studying there.That's just my honest opinion. But Durham is at the top and there are only a handful of really good music degree courses out there in my opinion now.
Durham has the pros of close knit environment- not to be underestimated as a first year undergraduate. Everything is a little more unified and less physically scattered than in London. As it is a very prestigious music degree many graduates go on to work in music but it is a very academic centred course. (By the way, wherever you go you will find the ethnomusicologists have rather taken over music degrees but that's another story and its a bugbear of mine, if you want to study Western Classical Music Durham is a good option but it has a fair amount of ethnomusicologist in its staff but you only have to study a module in your first year and honestly as I've said music academia is overrun by ethomusicology nationally and people falling over themselves to 'decolonise the curriculum' away from the Western Classical canon so you just have to politely nod and get on with the study if you actually want to study Bach, Mozart and Beethoven etc...,. )There are many orchestras and choirs. Competition is definitely present because you have to audition for them so be ready, but once the third years move on you can usually get in. The music societies are run by the students which does mean that you have to network. The academics have no input in them. Overall these days the department offers a fairly good range of modules to study with more individual choices in 2nd and 3rd year. You can apply for a music scholarship or bursary depending on your situation, There is a prestigious Vice Chancellor's Scholarship which can be applied for but only 25 in the university each year and open to elite sports as well as music so you have to be very good. Each college has practice rooms and the department also - like most universities these days you have to book ahead to get your slot so its less free than at home and the university decided to go all Steinway pianos .( I think that is fabulous in some ways but as that contract would have come with a hefty fee for Steinway maintenance I would have thought twice about it myself as the money could have been better used in my opinion for the department in other ways but still, it means the pianos are of a good standard and one of them in the department itself is an exceptional piano. )In summary, at Durham the student is cushioned particularly in the first year by a collegiate 'family' and everything is within walking distance and the stresses of London commute and initial bewilderment are lessened. Adjusting to university and making friends can be hard initially, best approached as an adventure, but on the whole Durham is better placed to allow a smoother transition than the London locations for obvious reasons . It may not matter but it is a spectacularly beautiful location as well and the Music department is up on the Cathedral site so seconds away form the rich musical life of the cathedral and the medieval streets. Some students love that sense of history and it informs their studies.
On the con side. Durham is clearly very far north. Fast trains from the south will get you there in 3 to 4 hours . The Music life of the city is largely dominated by the student musicians so its vital and buzzing. The professional Musicon series by the university invites musicians to perform but as far as I can see lately, it seems to be the ethomusicology World music dominant and they should watch that in my opinion and get more western classical music performed.( It's evident that is what the students themselves are performing in their choices of symphonies and concertos etc but these pesky ethomusicologists will have their day !.you'll find the same in KCL - they're all desperate to do research away from classical , its a trend that has momentum amonst the academics because they can get research funding for something 'new') Up that far you need to realise that performers often skip Durham and tperform in Newcastle which has a fabulous concert hall. This is the best bet and it's only 12 minutes away from Durham on the train. The students go there to hear the greet performers. I would love to have seen a really proper concert venue built at Durham for the musical life of the city, Most concerts happen in the Cathedral which is lovely but immediately you can imagine there are acoustic challenges, or the small yet lovely concert/ lecture theatre in the music department which only holds a few hundred, or the local churches. The university sent millions on a really fantastic new business school and I wish it had been able to build on a concert hall there as well because it needs one.
With KCL , what can I say? Here you will have access to world class concert halls and venues and musicians from chamber to recitals to opera. It doesn't get better, I don't know a lot about their music degree as I studied music at Durham and another subject at KCL but Ive had a look at the ie music degree and it looks very good. Im sure you can compare the modules and decide what is best for you. I would recommend different things depending on your outlook but overall I'd be looking for a good academic degree in musicology which prepared you for a broad overview and some specialisation but mainly a good academic underpinning of Wester classical music. You get my drift, go somewhere else for Hip Hop modules if that's your thing but I think Music degrees should be largely traditional but that's just my opinion. London holds many opportunities as I've said to taste music life and this is because its a capital city and many , Wigmore, Barbican, Royal Opera House etc offer massive discounts for those under 25. That said , you will be doing a degree, and you have to factor in that a lot of study and time needs to go into that ad in London it can be hard to navigate the travel and disjointed locations and also the fragmentary nature of this coupled with the fact that if you are in halls of residence you will be with many young people all studying at different locations and its can be tricky because its so spread out , to form attachments. I think it can be lonelier and this is also true as you struggle to connect at Durham initially but it is far and wide accepted that Durham is easier socially and that this helps to contribute to wellbeing and a feeling of belonging as you settle in. I do think that the psychology of choosib=ng a university can be instinctive but you need a cool head and to ask opinions and ultimately to decide what matters .
In summary, there are great things about both and you just have to decide what speaks to your heart and your logic. Music is a superb study and not to be underestimated. You will spend three precious years growing up and maturing and it's worth taking a step back and listening to a many people to distill what's important. Go to see both.
For me, Durham was better of the two at that tender stage of my life because the environment allows more time to settle in , to think and to study successfully if you are inexperienced in living any from home, for the first time, I think this also matters . Also be aware Durham has a very high rate of students meeting their life long love and partner!!!! Its actually true!
hope this helps a little 👍️
Hiya!

Really key insight - thank you so much for taking the time to share this. It’s such thoughtful, balanced and genuinely helpful information, especially from someone who’s experienced both. Really appreciated 👍

Reply 7

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by DurhamRep Lacey
Hiya!
Really key insight - thank you so much for taking the time to share this. It’s such thoughtful, balanced and genuinely helpful information, especially from someone who’s experienced both. Really appreciated 👍

It’s a pleasure. Hope it helps anyone who might be considering music at Durham.

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