Warwick Maths chances and how do contextual indicators work?
Hi, I wanted to see what people think of my chances of getting a Warwick Maths offer and I also had a question about the way contextual indicators work which I hoped someone could help answer.
GCSEs: 999999988 (8s in Spanish and History)
A-Levels: 4A*s (FM,Maths,CS,Chem)
TMUA: 4.8
Good (or so I've been told) personal statement
How likely do people think I am to get an offer and if so what are the chances of it being a STEP offer or a different variation of the degree, eg. Maths and Stats?
Now my other query is related to contextual indicators, since I have a fairly strong contextual background but not quite enough to warrant a contextual offer for Warwick specifically, I was wondering if contextual indicators are considered at all past the decision of whether a candidate is deserving of a contextual offer.
To put this into perspective, say we had Candidates A and B who have a relative contextuality of 7/10 and 3/10 respectively and the university requires a 9/10 for their contextual offer. Do the (stronger) contextual indicators of Canditate A give them any advantage over Candidate B in the later stages of the decision-making process despite both not having enough contextuality to be granted a contextual offer?
That is to say, are contextual indicators solely used for the deciding whether to give a candidate a contextual offer or do they continue to matter even after that?
Thank you and sorry if my wording wasn't the best, oh and also I forgot to mention this but I got a C in the EPQ though I've been told by almost everyone that won't really affect anything.
#Warwick
GCSEs: 999999988 (8s in Spanish and History)
A-Levels: 4A*s (FM,Maths,CS,Chem)
TMUA: 4.8
Good (or so I've been told) personal statement
How likely do people think I am to get an offer and if so what are the chances of it being a STEP offer or a different variation of the degree, eg. Maths and Stats?
Now my other query is related to contextual indicators, since I have a fairly strong contextual background but not quite enough to warrant a contextual offer for Warwick specifically, I was wondering if contextual indicators are considered at all past the decision of whether a candidate is deserving of a contextual offer.
To put this into perspective, say we had Candidates A and B who have a relative contextuality of 7/10 and 3/10 respectively and the university requires a 9/10 for their contextual offer. Do the (stronger) contextual indicators of Canditate A give them any advantage over Candidate B in the later stages of the decision-making process despite both not having enough contextuality to be granted a contextual offer?
That is to say, are contextual indicators solely used for the deciding whether to give a candidate a contextual offer or do they continue to matter even after that?
Thank you and sorry if my wording wasn't the best, oh and also I forgot to mention this but I got a C in the EPQ though I've been told by almost everyone that won't really affect anything.
#Warwick
Reply 1
Here's what I found in the admissions statement:
And from their website:
As for your chances, your application looks pretty good. Depending on your degree, your TMUA score may be a slight issue (the majority of offers last year for the normal maths degree were given to people with 5+), but it's not much lower so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Warwick doesn't really rank contextuality at all, it's pretty much just eligible/not eligible
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Contextual indicators are only considered when deciding on eligibility for contextual offers, there's no mention of them being used otherwise (except for widening participation programs)
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STEP offers are usually only given to applicants who haven't taken TMUA or achieved a low score
As for your chances, your application looks pretty good. Depending on your degree, your TMUA score may be a slight issue (the majority of offers last year for the normal maths degree were given to people with 5+), but it's not much lower so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Reply 2
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by ConfusedPenguin1Here's what I found in the admissions statement:
And from their website:
As for your chances, your application looks pretty good. Depending on your degree, your TMUA score may be a slight issue (the majority of offers last year for the normal maths degree were given to people with 5+), but it's not much lower so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
•
Warwick doesn't really rank contextuality at all, it's pretty much just eligible/not eligible
•
Contextual indicators are only considered when deciding on eligibility for contextual offers, there's no mention of them being used otherwise (except for widening participation programs)
•
STEP offers are usually only given to applicants who haven't taken TMUA or achieved a low score
As for your chances, your application looks pretty good. Depending on your degree, your TMUA score may be a slight issue (the majority of offers last year for the normal maths degree were given to people with 5+), but it's not much lower so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Thank you for the reply. It definitely makes me feel better!
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by ConfusedPenguin1Here's what I found in the admissions statement:
And from their website:
As for your chances, your application looks pretty good. Depending on your degree, your TMUA score may be a slight issue (the majority of offers last year for the normal maths degree were given to people with 5+), but it's not much lower so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
•
Warwick doesn't really rank contextuality at all, it's pretty much just eligible/not eligible
•
Contextual indicators are only considered when deciding on eligibility for contextual offers, there's no mention of them being used otherwise (except for widening participation programs)
•
STEP offers are usually only given to applicants who haven't taken TMUA or achieved a low score
As for your chances, your application looks pretty good. Depending on your degree, your TMUA score may be a slight issue (the majority of offers last year for the normal maths degree were given to people with 5+), but it's not much lower so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Out of curiosity, regarding the contextuality question, is this what most universities do? To be honest, I thought the answer would be the opposite. I feel it's unreasonable to treat all candidates equally just because they didn't meet the requirements for a contextual offer. I think contextually isn't as black and white as that, what do you think?
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by ZhivkOut of curiosity, regarding the contextuality question, is this what most universities do? To be honest, I thought the answer would be the opposite. I feel it's unreasonable to treat all candidates equally just because they didn't meet the requirements for a contextual offer. I think contextually isn't as black and white as that, what do you think?
I think it's standard for most unis. At most I think some unis use categories to determine what an applicant is eligible for (contextual offers, preference in admissions etc) - Edinburgh is one that comes to mind.
It's a bit of a tough question really, because of course it would be nice for contextuals to be evaluated a bit more holistically, but then there are some issues like, who qualifies for what? And how do we avoid admissions bias if the process becomes less straightforward?
One thing about contextual offers, as well as things like maintenance loans, that really annoys me is the dependence on household incomes as an indicator of contextuality. It's strange, because for example, someone from a 2 person household with an income of £50k would likely have more money available to them than someone from a 6 person household with an income of £60k. And yet at many unis, the first person is eligible for extra funding but the second person isn't. Same with maintenance loans.
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by ZhivkHi, I wanted to see what people think of my chances of getting a Warwick Maths offer and I also had a question about the way contextual indicators work which I hoped someone could help answer.
GCSEs: 999999988 (8s in Spanish and History)
A-Levels: 4A*s (FM,Maths,CS,Chem)
TMUA: 4.8
Good (or so I've been told) personal statement
How likely do people think I am to get an offer and if so what are the chances of it being a STEP offer or a different variation of the degree, eg. Maths and Stats?
Now my other query is related to contextual indicators, since I have a fairly strong contextual background but not quite enough to warrant a contextual offer for Warwick specifically, I was wondering if contextual indicators are considered at all past the decision of whether a candidate is deserving of a contextual offer.
To put this into perspective, say we had Candidates A and B who have a relative contextuality of 7/10 and 3/10 respectively and the university requires a 9/10 for their contextual offer. Do the (stronger) contextual indicators of Canditate A give them any advantage over Candidate B in the later stages of the decision-making process despite both not having enough contextuality to be granted a contextual offer?
That is to say, are contextual indicators solely used for the deciding whether to give a candidate a contextual offer or do they continue to matter even after that?
Thank you and sorry if my wording wasn't the best, oh and also I forgot to mention this but I got a C in the EPQ though I've been told by almost everyone that won't really affect anything.
#Warwick
GCSEs: 999999988 (8s in Spanish and History)
A-Levels: 4A*s (FM,Maths,CS,Chem)
TMUA: 4.8
Good (or so I've been told) personal statement
How likely do people think I am to get an offer and if so what are the chances of it being a STEP offer or a different variation of the degree, eg. Maths and Stats?
Now my other query is related to contextual indicators, since I have a fairly strong contextual background but not quite enough to warrant a contextual offer for Warwick specifically, I was wondering if contextual indicators are considered at all past the decision of whether a candidate is deserving of a contextual offer.
To put this into perspective, say we had Candidates A and B who have a relative contextuality of 7/10 and 3/10 respectively and the university requires a 9/10 for their contextual offer. Do the (stronger) contextual indicators of Canditate A give them any advantage over Candidate B in the later stages of the decision-making process despite both not having enough contextuality to be granted a contextual offer?
That is to say, are contextual indicators solely used for the deciding whether to give a candidate a contextual offer or do they continue to matter even after that?
Thank you and sorry if my wording wasn't the best, oh and also I forgot to mention this but I got a C in the EPQ though I've been told by almost everyone that won't really affect anything.
#Warwick
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by AnonymousLast year I know of friends who got Warwick with a 4s and didn’t have 4A*s, but 2A*s B,B.
'4s' meaning 4.x TMUA score?
Reply 7
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by Masu'4s' meaning 4.x TMUA score?
Yes, sorry, 4 or just over a 4 on the TMUA.
A-Levels A*, A*, B, B and they are non-contextual.
So, I hope you hear soon 😀
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by AnonymousLast year I know of friends who got Warwick with a 4s and didn’t have 4A*s, but 2A*s B,B.
Sorry for the late reply, do you know if they were contextual applicants?
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by ZhivkHi, I wanted to see what people think of my chances of getting a Warwick Maths offer and I also had a question about the way contextual indicators work which I hoped someone could help answer.
GCSEs: 999999988 (8s in Spanish and History)
A-Levels: 4A*s (FM,Maths,CS,Chem)
TMUA: 4.8
Good (or so I've been told) personal statement
How likely do people think I am to get an offer and if so what are the chances of it being a STEP offer or a different variation of the degree, eg. Maths and Stats?
Now my other query is related to contextual indicators, since I have a fairly strong contextual background but not quite enough to warrant a contextual offer for Warwick specifically, I was wondering if contextual indicators are considered at all past the decision of whether a candidate is deserving of a contextual offer.
To put this into perspective, say we had Candidates A and B who have a relative contextuality of 7/10 and 3/10 respectively and the university requires a 9/10 for their contextual offer. Do the (stronger) contextual indicators of Canditate A give them any advantage over Candidate B in the later stages of the decision-making process despite both not having enough contextuality to be granted a contextual offer?
That is to say, are contextual indicators solely used for the deciding whether to give a candidate a contextual offer or do they continue to matter even after that?
Thank you and sorry if my wording wasn't the best, oh and also I forgot to mention this but I got a C in the EPQ though I've been told by almost everyone that won't really affect anything.
#Warwick
GCSEs: 999999988 (8s in Spanish and History)
A-Levels: 4A*s (FM,Maths,CS,Chem)
TMUA: 4.8
Good (or so I've been told) personal statement
How likely do people think I am to get an offer and if so what are the chances of it being a STEP offer or a different variation of the degree, eg. Maths and Stats?
Now my other query is related to contextual indicators, since I have a fairly strong contextual background but not quite enough to warrant a contextual offer for Warwick specifically, I was wondering if contextual indicators are considered at all past the decision of whether a candidate is deserving of a contextual offer.
To put this into perspective, say we had Candidates A and B who have a relative contextuality of 7/10 and 3/10 respectively and the university requires a 9/10 for their contextual offer. Do the (stronger) contextual indicators of Canditate A give them any advantage over Candidate B in the later stages of the decision-making process despite both not having enough contextuality to be granted a contextual offer?
That is to say, are contextual indicators solely used for the deciding whether to give a candidate a contextual offer or do they continue to matter even after that?
Thank you and sorry if my wording wasn't the best, oh and also I forgot to mention this but I got a C in the EPQ though I've been told by almost everyone that won't really affect anything.
#Warwick
No one can really predict whether it would be a STEP offer or something else. Warwick usually looks at the whole picture rather than just one number.
Contextual factors aren’t just a yes or no switch. Even if you don’t meet the contextual threshold, background info can still be part of the overall decision.
The EPQ grade won’t matter much.
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by ZhivkSorry for the late reply, do you know if they were contextual applicants?
They were both non-contextual. Their offers came quite late. In March or even early April.
Reply 11
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by AnonymousYes, sorry, 4 or just over a 4 on the TMUA.
A-Levels A*, A*, B, B and they are non-contextual.
So, I hope you hear soon 😀
A-Levels A*, A*, B, B and they are non-contextual.
So, I hope you hear soon 😀
Wow that's quite surprising. Were there any extenuating circumstances involved, or particularly impressive supercurriculars?
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by ConfusedPenguin1Wow that's quite surprising. Were there any extenuating circumstances involved, or particularly impressive supercurriculars?
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