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Should we reassess older drivers?

As the title says, Should we reassess older drivers?
I know that drivers over 70 have to renew their driving licence every 3 years, but that depends on the driver themselves being honest about their eyesight etc.
With rection times being slower and some older drivers having accidents, should they have some some sort of assessment once they reach 70?
They shouldnt have a full test or anything.
But i think they should have some sort of assessment to make sure they are still ok to drive. Possibly an hour with a driving instructor or something.
At the moment, its up to the person to say if they are still ok to drive, and some will carry on driving even though they are no longer safe to do so.

Reply 2

Original post
by Emma:-)
As the title says, Should we reassess older drivers?
I know that drivers over 70 have to renew their driving licence every 3 years, but that depends on the driver themselves being honest about their eyesight etc.
With rection times being slower and some older drivers having accidents, should they have some some sort of assessment once they reach 70?

It's always been law that drivers over 70 must have a medical before renewing the driving licence every 3 years..... The government is just making it harder for people to drive.
Maybe upping the age limit for someone to drive is a thing to consider, and inforce the size of vehicles you can drive as newly qualified drivers

Eyesight should be compulsory for every one and every time they renew there licence ( every ten years or they move addresses) they should provide proof of eyesight to DVLA.

Some of the younger ones are terrible with stopping distance but not getting punished enough. It will come to the point that your GPS and OPTICIANS will be asked to notify DVLA about everything after you visit them to keep them up-to-date with any medical issues ( your GP currently has power to write to DVLA but many choose not to).
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by Tracey_W
It's always been law that drivers over 70 must have a medical before renewing the driving licence every 3 years..... The government is just making it harder for people to drive.
Maybe upping the age limit for someone to drive is a thing to consider, and inforce the size of vehicles you can drive as newly qualified drivers
Eyesight should be compulsory for every one and every time they renew there licence ( every ten years or they move addresses) they should provide proof of eyesight to DVLA.
Some of the younger ones are terrible with stopping distance but not getting punished enough. It will come to the point that your GPS and OPTICIANS will be asked to notify DVLA about everything after you visit them to keep them up-to-date with any medical issues ( your GP currently has power to write to DVLA but many choose not to).

I think that the eyesight thing (providing proof to the DVLA) is a good idea. Not just for older drivers- it wouldnt harm anyone for it to be brought in for everyone when they renew their licence every 10 years.
My concerns about the older drivers thing is them carrying on driving thinking that they are ok to drive when their driving standard has gone downhill and they shouldnt really be driving. There is no check on them unless an accident happens (which they do happen).

Reply 4

Original post
by Emma:-)
I think that the eyesight thing (providing proof to the DVLA) is a good idea. Not just for older drivers- it wouldnt harm anyone for it to be brought in for everyone when they renew their licence every 10 years.
My concerns about the older drivers thing is them carrying on driving thinking that they are ok to drive when their driving standard has gone downhill and they shouldnt really be driving. There is no check on them unless an accident happens (which they do happen).

Yeah agree with that

Maybe yearly or every two years the older ones should have there eyesight tested.

I have heard many stories about older drivers regarding eyesight from my own dad (worked in police all his days) so I am 100% in agreement with it.
Your eyesight for majority of people starts to change when you reach around 50 and yes younger people can also have changes to eyes.

This is the big problem as when you pass your driving test you don't have any eyesight checks throughout your driving days unless you have to go to opticians but lots don't want to go until it's too late 🫩 🫩 🫩.
Original post
by Tracey_W
Yeah agree with that
Maybe yearly or every two years the older ones should have there eyesight tested.
I have heard many stories about older drivers regarding eyesight from my own dad (worked in police all his days) so I am 100% in agreement with it.
Your eyesight for majority of people starts to change when you reach around 50 and yes younger people can also have changes to eyes.
This is the big problem as when you pass your driving test you don't have any eyesight checks throughout your driving days unless you have to go to opticians but lots don't want to go until it's too late 🫩 🫩 🫩.

Exactly.

Reply 6

Original post
by Emma:-)
Exactly.

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Reply 7

Original post
by Tracey_W
It's always been law that drivers over 70 must have a medical before renewing the driving licence every 3 years..... The government is just making it harder for people to drive.
Maybe upping the age limit for someone to drive is a thing to consider, and inforce the size of vehicles you can drive as newly qualified drivers
Eyesight should be compulsory for every one and every time they renew there licence ( every ten years or they move addresses) they should provide proof of eyesight to DVLA.
Some of the younger ones are terrible with stopping distance but not getting punished enough. It will come to the point that your GPS and OPTICIANS will be asked to notify DVLA about everything after you visit them to keep them up-to-date with any medical issues ( your GP currently has power to write to DVLA but many choose not to).

"Eyesight should be compulsory for every one and every time they renew there licence"

I agree with this especially, it's not a big ask. I feel these sort of concerns or any restrictions should apply to everyone. People's general ability to drive could be affected by any number of factors at any time, entirely independent of age, and if we're talking about effective harm reduction we need to make it about everyone. I don't think one age group is particularly more likely to lie about conditions than the other.

Reply 8

Original post
by Emma:-)
They shouldnt have a full test or anything.
But i think they should have some sort of assessment to make sure they are still ok to drive. Possibly an hour with a driving instructor or something.
At the moment, its up to the person to say if they are still ok to drive, and some will carry on driving even though they are no longer safe to do so.

I feel a weird Deja Vu that we've had this back'n'forth before, but if you have to pay a driving examiner for an hour+ and they then get to decide if you can keep driving or not then that is absolutely a driving test, even if you condense it. I doubt the DVLA would delegate such a task/approval to rando instructors and if the justification was there for the practical part, they would almost certainly insist on a resit of the theory parts as well.

As said in my other reply, any driver could lie at any time about a reason they shouldn't drive, I feel uneasy making it about age. If we're going to increase test standards in terms of ongoing reporting it should be for everyone IMO.

Reply 9

Original post
by Emma:-)
They shouldnt have a full test or anything.
But i think they should have some sort of assessment to make sure they are still ok to drive. Possibly an hour with a driving instructor or something.
At the moment, its up to the person to say if they are still ok to drive, and some will carry on driving even though they are no longer safe to do so.

Yes, I agree, especially the eyesight thing... and I will even go further and say that everyone over 40 should get their eyes checked every 3 years at least to see changes in their distance vision and vision field.

I would not trust people with being honest about their eyesight. I can't even be honest about it myself. There are days I feel too confident about it, other days I don't feel confident enough. The days I feel too confident and can go without glasses for most of the tasks ( I will wear them for driving of course and I will wear at least 20/40 correction, but I can check my eyes on a daily basis, it's my profession). I would not trust a person to know when they see 20/50 and when they see 20/30.... The days I feel good about my eyesight I don't notice the difference myself. (I wear lower prescription often, especially contacts). But I won't drive with that eyesight. I know people in their 40s who lower their prescription to avoid using reading glasses over their contacts... the same reason I wear lower prescription for night outs or going to a theme park. I won't trust people to know what their vision is with the lenses they bought 3 years ago while their prescription was valid.
I've met many people who drive with horrible vision without knowing that.
Original post
by StriderHort
I feel a weird Deja Vu that we've had this back'n'forth before, but if you have to pay a driving examiner for an hour+ and they then get to decide if you can keep driving or not then that is absolutely a driving test, even if you condense it. I doubt the DVLA would delegate such a task/approval to rando instructors and if the justification was there for the practical part, they would almost certainly insist on a resit of the theory parts as well.
As said in my other reply, any driver could lie at any time about a reason they shouldn't drive, I feel uneasy making it about age. If we're going to increase test standards in terms of ongoing reporting it should be for everyone IMO.

I do think that relatives concerns should be taken more seriously. And doctors should be able to report to the dvla (if they cant already) if they have any concerns as well.

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