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Maths with German at University.

I'm a year 12 student studying Maths, Physics, German and starting an AS in further maths next year. At university, I want to do maths along with German, either in a 50/50 or 75/25 format. I've been looking around at universities and it seems like quite a rare course. I've been looking at Lancaster Uni, Heriott Watt and Uni of Liverpool so far. But I'd love to have some advice on what universities offer a dual course like this, and whether it's purely extra curricular or if I receive certification for the language.

Reply 1

If you do a joint honours degree, your degree certificate will state both subjects.
If you are struggling to find options, maybe look at unis which offer language modules as option modules (this would be more like a 100-20 split rather than 60-60 or 90-30 as you specified)

Reply 2

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by DerDracologe
If you do a joint honours degree, your degree certificate will state both subjects.
If you are struggling to find options, maybe look at unis which offer language modules as option modules (this would be more like a 100-20 split rather than 60-60 or 90-30 as you specified)
Okay, this is very helpful thank you. 😀
Original post
by traviss09
I'm a year 12 student studying Maths, Physics, German and starting an AS in further maths next year. At university, I want to do maths along with German, either in a 50/50 or 75/25 format. I've been looking around at universities and it seems like quite a rare course. I've been looking at Lancaster Uni, Heriott Watt and Uni of Liverpool so far. But I'd love to have some advice on what universities offer a dual course like this, and whether it's purely extra curricular or if I receive certification for the language.

Derby and Loughborough unis may be worth a look to see if they offer what you are after.

Reply 4

St Andrews offers it, and is an excellent university besides.
https://www.ucas.com/explore/courses/d04410f2-3746-cec4-0de5-9700eba0492f/german-and-mathematics
https://www.ucas.com/explore/courses/7a0d2a32-9f1e-56ac-266a-3259c51e83a0/german-and-mathematics-year-abroad

Another option could be to study abroad, e.g. https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/maths/currentstudents/ughandbook/general/abroad/

If you think you can reach C1 level by the time you start uni, you could consider studying in Germany. There are also bilingual and a few English programs as well which don't require C1 level German.
(edited 1 month ago)

Reply 5

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by traviss09
I'm a year 12 student studying Maths, Physics, German and starting an AS in further maths next year. At university, I want to do maths along with German, either in a 50/50 or 75/25 format. I've been looking around at universities and it seems like quite a rare course. I've been looking at Lancaster Uni, Heriott Watt and Uni of Liverpool so far. But I'd love to have some advice on what universities offer a dual course like this, and whether it's purely extra curricular or if I receive certification for the language.

Hi,

Doing joint degrees combining maths and a language do exist but they are a bit less common than single subject maths courses. Usually they are offered as official joint honours degrees where you study both subjects and receive a degree in both, rather than it being purely extracurricular.
Some universities offer combinations like Mathematics with German or Mathematics and a Modern Language. In those cases you would normally take modules in both subjects each year and sometimes spend a year abroad in the country where the language is spoken, which can be a really valuable experience.
Personally when I was in college I remember looking at joint honours courses and noticing that different universities structure them slightly differently, some are closer to a 50/50 split while others might be more like 75/25 depending on the course.
It’s definitely worth checking the course pages carefully because if it’s a formal joint honours degree you will receive certification for both subjects as part of your degree, not just as an extracurricular activity.

Have a good day and goodluck!

Anthony
student rep
Hi @traviss,

It seems like a lot of universities have offered Maths with German at some point, but are no longer advertising it. It would be worth being in contact with the admissions teams of various universities that have advertised this course in the past and seeing if that is something they still offer. I did a quick Google and results came up for Manchester and Southampton, but they no longer have up to date information for this...

We currently don't have a page set up for BSc Mathematics with German Studies at the moment, but it is something that we will be running from 26/27! We'd be super excited to have you. Feel free to come to one of our Open Days and speak to our lovely teaching staff :smile:

Good luck,
- Crystal (Lancaster University Student Ambassador)
3rd Year MSci Mathematics and Computer Science

Reply 7

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by Lancaster Student Ambassador
Hi @traviss,
It seems like a lot of universities have offered Maths with German at some point, but are no longer advertising it. It would be worth being in contact with the admissions teams of various universities that have advertised this course in the past and seeing if that is something they still offer. I did a quick Google and results came up for Manchester and Southampton, but they no longer have up to date information for this...
We currently don't have a page set up for BSc Mathematics with German Studies at the moment, but it is something that we will be running from 26/27! We'd be super excited to have you. Feel free to come to one of our Open Days and speak to our lovely teaching staff :smile:
Good luck,
- Crystal (Lancaster University Student Ambassador)
3rd Year MSci Mathematics and Computer Science

Thank you for the information. Amazing to hear about the upcoming course. 😊

Reply 8

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by LJMUStudentReps
Hi,
Doing joint degrees combining maths and a language do exist but they are a bit less common than single subject maths courses. Usually they are offered as official joint honours degrees where you study both subjects and receive a degree in both, rather than it being purely extracurricular.
Some universities offer combinations like Mathematics with German or Mathematics and a Modern Language. In those cases you would normally take modules in both subjects each year and sometimes spend a year abroad in the country where the language is spoken, which can be a really valuable experience.
Personally when I was in college I remember looking at joint honours courses and noticing that different universities structure them slightly differently, some are closer to a 50/50 split while others might be more like 75/25 depending on the course.
It’s definitely worth checking the course pages carefully because if it’s a formal joint honours degree you will receive certification for both subjects as part of your degree, not just as an extracurricular activity.
Have a good day and goodluck!
Anthony
student rep

Thank you ☺️

Reply 9

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by Muu9
St Andrews offers it, and is an excellent university besides.
https://www.ucas.com/explore/courses/d04410f2-3746-cec4-0de5-9700eba0492f/german-and-mathematics
https://www.ucas.com/explore/courses/7a0d2a32-9f1e-56ac-266a-3259c51e83a0/german-and-mathematics-year-abroad
Another option could be to study abroad, e.g. https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/maths/currentstudents/ughandbook/general/abroad/
If you think you can reach C1 level by the time you start uni, you could consider studying in Germany. There are also bilingual and a few English programs as well which don't require C1 level German.
I’ve had a look at St Andrews looks very good. Could be a good experience studying in Germany too thank you.

Reply 10

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by Emma:-)
Derby and Loughborough unis may be worth a look to see if they offer what you are after.

Will do thank you 😀
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by traviss09
Will do thank you 😀

Derby and Loughborough are both an equal distance from me (i live in south derbyshire). They are both meant to be good unis.

Reply 12

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by Lancaster Student Ambassador
Hi @traviss,
It seems like a lot of universities have offered Maths with German at some point, but are no longer advertising it. It would be worth being in contact with the admissions teams of various universities that have advertised this course in the past and seeing if that is something they still offer. I did a quick Google and results came up for Manchester and Southampton, but they no longer have up to date information for this...
We currently don't have a page set up for BSc Mathematics with German Studies at the moment, but it is something that we will be running from 26/27! We'd be super excited to have you. Feel free to come to one of our Open Days and speak to our lovely teaching staff :smile:
Good luck,
- Crystal (Lancaster University Student Ambassador)
3rd Year MSci Mathematics and Computer Science

Hello,
I wanted to just add on to my previous post as I was very excited to hear about the upcoming maths and German dual honours course, although I filled in a courses form from the website and received a reply saying that German courses were suspended and the final year of entry for them was 2025.
Is it just suspended until 2026, and is there definitely going to be German dual honours available in the future, particularly with maths or maths heavy degrees like finance and accounting.
Thank you
Original post
by traviss09
Hello,
I wanted to just add on to my previous post as I was very excited to hear about the upcoming maths and German dual honours course, although I filled in a courses form from the website and received a reply saying that German courses were suspended and the final year of entry for them was 2025.
Is it just suspended until 2026, and is there definitely going to be German dual honours available in the future, particularly with maths or maths heavy degrees like finance and accounting.
Thank you

Hi OP,
How long ago did you fill the form in? It may be worth enquiring again, as some joint honours which were originally planned on being suspended may now be available and reintroduced on UCAS, possibly including Maths and German, although I am not 100% sure. Your best bet is inquiring again either through your original line of enquiry, or by emailing the maths department directly at [email protected] as they will most likely have a more up-to-date list of joint honours that are being reintroduced.

Secondly, I would also like to add that even if this is not an option that you can take all the way through your degree, you can definitely make it work at Lancaster! In your first year of a maths degree at Lancaster you can choose to minor in German studies, which is taken for credit and counts towards your first year mark. This course also includes study of the cultural, social and historical context within the language, which is embedded in the language learning itself. The German minor is also available in three different levels so depending on how fluent you are after your A-Level, you should be able to find a course that suits your needs!

Past first year, I know that currently at Lancaster it is an option to take a module outside of your degree scheme, although for 2026/27 and beyond I am not 100% sure if this is the case, it's worth an email! If so, you could take a module in German that would count towards your degree. If not, you can also "audit" a module. This means that you would attend the lectures and seminars for the module, but you do not receive a grade for it and it also does not show up on your degree transcript. Last term I audited a philosophy module after doing a philosophy minor in my first year, and it was a great experience - I made friends in my lectures that I would not have found otherwise and got to see a different perspective to uni life that wasn't just maths!

I would highly recommend considering Lancaster (not that I would be biased or anything...) as one of your options as there will still be room in your degree for German if you decide to apply here, even if it is not dual honours. I will reiterate however that it is definitely worth emailing them, both about the dual honours course and about the option to take German further on than in year one as part of your degree.

Best of luck, and I hope they bring the degree programme back,
Rhianna (BSc Mathematics and Statistics) :smile:

Reply 14

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by Lancaster Student Ambassador
Hi OP,
How long ago did you fill the form in? It may be worth enquiring again, as some joint honours which were originally planned on being suspended may now be available and reintroduced on UCAS, possibly including Maths and German, although I am not 100% sure. Your best bet is inquiring again either through your original line of enquiry, or by emailing the maths department directly at [email protected] as they will most likely have a more up-to-date list of joint honours that are being reintroduced.
Secondly, I would also like to add that even if this is not an option that you can take all the way through your degree, you can definitely make it work at Lancaster! In your first year of a maths degree at Lancaster you can choose to minor in German studies, which is taken for credit and counts towards your first year mark. This course also includes study of the cultural, social and historical context within the language, which is embedded in the language learning itself. The German minor is also available in three different levels so depending on how fluent you are after your A-Level, you should be able to find a course that suits your needs!
Past first year, I know that currently at Lancaster it is an option to take a module outside of your degree scheme, although for 2026/27 and beyond I am not 100% sure if this is the case, it's worth an email! If so, you could take a module in German that would count towards your degree. If not, you can also "audit" a module. This means that you would attend the lectures and seminars for the module, but you do not receive a grade for it and it also does not show up on your degree transcript. Last term I audited a philosophy module after doing a philosophy minor in my first year, and it was a great experience - I made friends in my lectures that I would not have found otherwise and got to see a different perspective to uni life that wasn't just maths!
I would highly recommend considering Lancaster (not that I would be biased or anything...) as one of your options as there will still be room in your degree for German if you decide to apply here, even if it is not dual honours. I will reiterate however that it is definitely worth emailing them, both about the dual honours course and about the option to take German further on than in year one as part of your degree.
Best of luck, and I hope they bring the degree programme back,
Rhianna (BSc Mathematics and Statistics) :smile:

Thank you so much, very helpful for me.

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