Oxford has a more exclusive feel to it and can be regarded as "posher" and this would obviously attract certain people at public schools.
Also, I think it has something to do with the subjects that they apply for. If top schools were sending more students for subjects like Maths or Sciences, it would probably be turned around somewhat.
And as this is the rumour thread -
I feel that the Arts are subjects where having a top public school background and help from your teaching faculty will help you more than in the sciences where things are a lot more objective. Also your '1 every 5 year genius' from comprehensives seem to produce more scientists/mathmaticians.
All speculation though!
I don't know, maybe. But it's certainly true that public school pupils do go to Oxford in much greater numbers than Cambridge: of the 7 (of 9) public schools that have readily available data on the matter (Eton and Rugby did not but I hear anecdotally that this is true at Eton) every one sent more people to Oxford than Cambridge. 3 of them sent around twice as many pupils to Oxford over Cambridge.
It's really quite strange.
My theory is that if you have large numbers of people applying to basically comparable universities you're going to be influenced by where your peers are going. Since Cambridge is the kind of place that attracts the geeks and Oxford has a bit more of a posh, party reputation (things like the Union and the Bullingdon obviously appeal to these types), and also the popular kids from the year above are at Oxford, the popular kids generally apply to Oxford. And the rest follow them. The people who end up applying for Cambridge then end up being nearly all scientists. Or people who wanted to get away from the kind of guys they were at school with.
This would seem to square with what I know - nearly all the 'public school' people I know (at Cambridge) are scientists. At schools where there aren't a large number of applicants, this would be much less of an issue. Hence a much more even distribution of students from lesser independent schools and state schools.
Ah but they're going to be insufferable when they hear that we have about a 50% success rate for Oxford this year. I forsee significant preening on the part of the head of sixth form.
Well as long as more than 2 people from your school applied and you're not the only subject of the preening, I'm sure you'll cope Being the only one to get in and having the teachers preening themselves over just you is never much fun
Well as long as more than 2 people from your school applied and you're not the only subject of the preening, I'm sure you'll cope Being the only one to get in and having the teachers preening themselves over just you is never much fun
True, amazingly eight people applied this year. I know for certain of two others who got in and there is one more who I'm pretty sure has as well (he's a super dooper chemistry genius...who I get to do the dangerous experiments in chemisty since I'm very clumsy. Lets just say there was an incident where I almost set fire to a teacher ...)
That's also not including the people who applied to Cambridge who don't know. Thing is my year is concidered a weird one. The P.E. department has practically given up on us, even though we have a couple of good people. I believe the exact description from the old head of P.E. was "strange and immature". I am the only History applicant though in the school (I think) the closest is a guy applying for Classics but not at Oxbridge.
I don't mind the History department preening since they are gloriousy excentric and lovely Anyway back to the rumours thing, I got a lovely briefing on what to expect in my interviews from the head of department and her husband and they told me stories of their interviews. Apparently in one of his interviews the tutor had a bird in their room (a hawk I think he said) and it was just sitting on a perch the whole way through. He spent the entire interview half watching to make sure it didn't fly at him.
Well as long as more than 2 people from your school applied and you're not the only subject of the preening, I'm sure you'll cope Being the only one to get in and having the teachers preening themselves over just you is never much fun
Two people from my school applied. I'm the only one who got in.
I don't mind the History department preening since they are gloriousy excentric and lovely Anyway back to the rumours thing, I got a lovely briefing on what to expect in my interviews from the head of department and her husband and they told me stories of their interviews. Apparently in one of his interviews the tutor had a bird in their room (a hawk I think he said) and it was just sitting on a perch the whole way through. He spent the entire interview half watching to make sure it didn't fly at him.
That would seriously freak me out if my tutors had birds in their room during the interviews.
I got told that there would be two chairs. If you sat on one, you'd get an offer. If you sat on the other, you wouldn't. My tutor was so exasperated when I told him bout that rumour!
That would seriously freak me out if my tutors had birds in their room during the interviews.
I got told that there would be two chairs. If you sat on one, you'd get an offer. If you sat on the other, you wouldn't. My tutor was so exasperated when I told him bout that rumour!
Yeh I got told by my History teacher to always sit on the hard chair if there is a choice between chair and sofa. Apparently it's easier to appear dignified on a chair.
Have fun with the teachers preening themselves about your offer!
Lol, my teachers' reaction will probably be sorry, hard luck etc, but I know my Chemistry teacher will probably say something in the lines of "**** Oxford, they're a bunch of ******* toffs, Imperial is way better......." He graduated from Imperial and did his PhD there
Yeh I got told by my History teacher to always sit on the hard chair if there is a choice between chair and sofa. Apparently it's easier to appear dignified on a chair.
Also, according to her you shouuldn't accept food or drink because there is no time to consume it and it'd just get awkward if you find you don't like it. She said the same applies to Tutorials. She said one time she accepted tea from a Tutor in the first Tutorial of the year (she hates tea) and so they gave her some every week, which she had to drink to avoid appearing rude
Also, according to her you shouuldn't accept food or drink because there is no time to consume it and it'd just get awkward if you find you don't like it. She said the same applies to Tutorials. She said one time she accepted tea from a Tutor in the first Tutorial of the year (she hates tea) and so they gave her some every week, which she had to drink to avoid appearing rude
Similar thing happened to me: my junior tutor offered me tea at the start of our first tutorial. I didn't really like tea at the time and said no, but it seemed to confuse (bordering on distress!) her so much that I had to accept it to appease her! Then another time, my main tutor insisted on making me cheese on toast, despite the fact that we'd had dinner and weren't really hungry!
oh god, another state private debate. Luckily this page seems to have gone back on track, but for anyone considering continuing it - Knock it off. Take it to another thread. You bore me now. If we could ban freshers from talking about their ****ing schools, I would.
The shoe rumour - that happens, in sports clubs, when you sconce someone and no-one stands up to drink. Sometimes it also happens at rugby initiations, or when someone gets very drunk and doesn't have a glass (not really). It is not a regular part of Oxbridge life for most people, although for a very special few, it IS Oxbridge life.
Some people also thinks we have curfews, and can't have sex without being reported (by the cameras in our beds, I presume...SEX IN THE CUPBOARDS, GUYS, IT'S THE ONLY SOLUTION) but this a) is a boring rumour and b) not true.
Some of the facts are actually more interesting:
-bumps racing = slamming very expensive boats into each other. If you win, you get to burn one of said expensive boats.
-Merton's time ceremony - basically, Merton single handedly offsets the orbit of the earth while drinking, or something. Yeah. When they stop in a huff, then you'll regret all those 'fun goes to die' jokes.
Have fun with the teachers preening themselves about your offer!
I was the only one in my school to get an offer, but thankfully I made sure beforehand that all my teachers hated me. Thus there was no preening and everyone was faintly embarrassed about the whole thing.
I think I'm still mentioned on the website though (from 3 years ago ).
-bumps racing = slamming very expensive boats into each other. If you win, you get to burn one of said expensive boats.
And we can win an oar!! (I don't know if you do that sort of stuff at Oxford though). (also, I don't think they ever burn one of their really expensive boats- it's always a really old one).
My favourite bizarre tradition is 'Wrangler Bridge Jumping' where the top third year mathmo (the Senior Wrangler) has to jump off the Mathematical Bridge or designate an hour in a day in which any other Wrangler (mathmo who gets a first) can throw a bucket of water over his head.
And we can win an oar!! (I don't know if you do that sort of stuff at Oxford though). (also, I don't think they ever burn one of their really expensive boats- it's always a really old one).
My favourite bizarre tradition is 'Wrangler Bridge Jumping' where the top third year mathmo (the Senior Wrangler) has to jump off the Mathematical Bridge or designate an hour in a day in which any other Wrangler (mathmo who gets a first) can throw a bucket of water over his head.
I have a Blade! It's pretty much the best thing ever.
My college got head of the river this year, and you're right, we burnt an old boat...not the Empacher....