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LAE Stratford conditional offer + grades

I was wondering, does anybody know if achieving the grades that LAE has offered me a conditional offer for would guarantee me a place at LAE? They mentioned something about oversubscription criteria - which I have read - but I'm still not too sure on how much it matters that I don't qualify for any of the free school meals stuff (amongst other things) and how I am a 40 minute train ride away from LAE. I was wondering if this would override me getting the grades on my conditional offer - 99999998, where the 8 is in Lit and I want to take Maths, Biology and Chemistry.

Reply 1

jemmabln

Not necessarily, you cant really know for sure. I’m currently in year 13 there and my teacher was telling me that they were heavily oversubscribed. If you get those grades I think that should be enough to get in on results day because realistically you can’t really get better than that but they may prioritise those who live in newham or have free school meals.

Reply 2

FreddieAS

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by jemmabln

Thanks for the reply. Sorry, just for clarification: does this mean that I could still be rejected due to oversubscription + not fulfilling any form of criteria even if I achieve my predicted grades that they have given me a conditional offer for? Mb u probably already answered this but I'm still a bit unsure - might be the early exam stress settling in 😬

Reply 3

rv_schl

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by FreddieAS

This is what LAE says in its admission policy document:

‘13.1 Confirmation: Confirmation of the offer is conditional on the offer-holder meeting or exceeding the minimum entry requirements outlined in paragraph 5 and meeting or exceeding the subject specific entry requirements in Appendix 1. Once an offer is confirmed on completion of
a pre-enrolment form with attached evidence of GCSE results, the offer holder may be invited to complete enrolment on-site.’

So If you achieve:
● at least eight GCSEs at grades 7 to 9
● at least a grade 7 in Mathematics
● at least a grade 7 in English Language
● all subject-specific requirements relevant to their chosen A level courses

You will have fulfilled the offer, and should be able to enrol.

If more than 375 people fulfil these criteria AND enrol, then offers to enrol start getting ranked based on oversubscription criteria, that’s what their document says.

To find the admission policy document just look it up and download it off their website.

Reply 4

FreddieAS

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by rv_schl

This is what LAE says in its admission policy document:
‘13.1 Confirmation: Confirmation of the offer is conditional on the offer-holder meeting or exceeding the minimum entry requirements outlined in paragraph 5 and meeting or exceeding the subject specific entry requirements in Appendix 1. Once an offer is confirmed on completion of
a pre-enrolment form with attached evidence of GCSE results, the offer holder may be invited to complete enrolment on-site.’
So If you achieve:
● at least eight GCSEs at grades 7 to 9
● at least a grade 7 in Mathematics
● at least a grade 7 in English Language
● all subject-specific requirements relevant to their chosen A level courses
You will have fulfilled the offer, and should be able to enrol.
If more than 375 people fulfil these criteria AND enrol, then offers to enrol start getting ranked based on oversubscription criteria, that’s what their document says.
To find the admission policy document just look it up and download it off their website.

Thanks ! That's mb must have missed this or forgotten since I read it back In October. Hoping everyone else does terribly 😭

Reply 5

Utabanix

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by FreddieAS

Thanks ! That's mb must have missed this or forgotten since I read it back In October. Hoping everyone else does terribly 😭

So... It’s basically a sieve?

For the sake of my argument there are two buckets, one with FSM and one without.

From my understanding, let's say 800 people enroll and 200 people with FSM meet the requirements. Then those people are admitted first in order of their average of their top-8 grades.

Then bucket 2 (non-fsm) students are admitted. There are 600 non-fsm students that meet the criteria. As there are only 170 places remaining after bucket 1 (fsm) is emptied, does that mean 430 students are rejected even though they met the criteria to apply; effectively meaning that the de facto minimum to apply is significantly higher for non-FSM students when compared to FSM students?

Reply 6

rv_schl

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by Utabanix

So... It’s basically a sieve?
For the sake of my argument there are two buckets, one with FSM and one without.
From my understanding, let's say 800 people enroll and 200 people with FSM meet the requirements. Then those people are admitted first in order of their average of their top-8 grades.
Then bucket 2 (non-fsm) students are admitted. There are 600 non-fsm students that meet the criteria. As there are only 170 places remaining after bucket 1 (fsm) is emptied, does that mean 430 students are rejected even though they met the criteria to apply; effectively meaning that the de facto minimum to apply is significantly higher for non-FSM students when compared to FSM students?

Yes basically. All of these people already have their offers, 1200 of which were given out. Of those 1200, probably 800 will achieve the required grades, if not fewer. Then of those 800, say 250-300 enrol at their first option (NCS, Brampton, St Bons), that indeed leaves for argument's sake 500 people that COULD be invited to enrol.
What you've then said is true, especially the oversubscription criteria acting as a sieve. If you are non-FSM, you need to score significantly higher, but it's not as if all the FSM students (in bucket 1) are offered enrollment before anyone without FSM (in bucket 2). As you say, it just raises the bar for non-FSM students. Serving disadvantaged kids, especially in Newham, is what LAE was founded to do.