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it weird only policies and affairs of a truly political naature should affects ones abiltiy to perform on the ballot boxes but here we are talking of the demise of this woman becasue she was hypocrtical and basically got her tupence when the info that she sent her kid to a private school aired.
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No, what I'm saying is adjusted results improves the average reults of comps. These are not the actual results that some of the students actually recieve.

Do you actually know what is going on?

I am talking about the results of the grammar-equivalent stream in Comps. You can't compare a school which takes 100% of students, and a school which only takes the top 25%!!!
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by the way what do people think of Diane Abbott MP 's decision to send her child to a private school when she is a labour mp who criticised blair and harriet harman for sending their children to STATE schools which were selective!
I know that Dianne Abbott defended her decision by saying that she believed she was doing the best by her son, but due to her past statements I think she is quite clearly being hypocritical. She has not just criticised individuals for sending their children to private schools but has criticised the existence of private schools themselves, and so she clearly does not believe this whole-heartedly because otherwise she would have felt that the best thing to do for her son would be to send him to a normal state school. Also, she said that she did it because less than 10% of Afro-Carribean boys in Hackney get 5 good GCSEs, and therefore her decision may have been more defensible if she had chosen to send him to an independent school with more modest fees, but the City of London school is very exclusive. To me, this just makes the whole thing even worse.

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I know that Dianne Abbott defended her decision by saying that she believed she was doing the best by her son, but due to her past statements I think she is quite clearly being hypocritical. She has not just criticised individuals for sending their children to private schools but has criticised the existence of private schools themselves, and so she clearly does not believe this whole-heartedly because otherwise she would have felt that the best thing to do for her son would be to send him to a normal state school. Also, she said that she did it because less than 10% of Afro-Carribean boys in Hackney get 5 good GCSEs, and therefore her decision may have been more defensible if she had chosen to send him to an independent school with more modest fees, but the City of London school is very exclusive. To me, this just makes the whole thing even worse.

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I can't recollect Dianne Abbott having any public opinion about independent schools but I do remember her roundly criticising Harriet Harman for sending her son to Orpington Grammar whilst the family resided in Central London. It's a pity she did not anticipate her feelings regarding her own son and the importance she would eventually place on his education. However, despite this she has at least said she would resign her position as MP as her personal concerns override any political stance and for that she is to be admired as most would hang on till the bitter end.
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
No, what I'm saying is adjusted results improves the average reults of comps. These are not the actual results that some of the students actually recieve.

Jesson actually published all of his work independantly as well, go the govt didn't hold any back.
The government published parts of his research when it suited them to advance the cause of specialist schools but omitted the parts that criticised the effects of selection on other schools in the area. In my opinion we should enforce all ability intake on grammar schools or demand that they go private.
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The government published parts of his research when it suited them to advance the cause of specialist schools but omitted the parts that criticised the effects of selection on other schools in the area. In my opinion we should enforce all ability intake on grammar schools or demand that they go private.
A school depends a lot on the children. I don't think there is such a thing as a child who is 'thick' - if given the correct training I think it's possible for most children to get top marks. But the real trouble with government schools is pupil behaviour. You have one group of kids who want to study and another who don't. Those that don't are so rowdy and make learning impossible for those that do want to study, so they are academically pulled back. I went to a comprehensive in London and it was horrible, pupil behaviour was so out of control teachers refused to teach.
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A school depends a lot on the children. I don't think there is such a thing as a child who is 'thick' - if given the correct training I think it's possible for most children to get top marks. But the real trouble with government schools is pupil behaviour. You have one group of kids who want to study and another who don't. Those that don't are so rowdy and make learning impossible for those that do want to study, so they are academically pulled back. I went to a comprehensive in London and it was horrible, pupil behaviour was so out of control teachers refused to teach.
Children are mainly a product of their upbringing so to cure the problem of bad behaviour in schools and at large, parents need to be brought to account. They need to be taught parenting skills because it's not something that necessarily comes automatically, particularly if they themselves had inadequate parents. They fail to provide good role models for their children to follow. If the parents have no respect for others then it's very difficult for schools to inculcate mutual respect in their pupils.
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