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all we do in durham is drink... err, you can also get occassionally told of for damage you cause and threats of keeping of terms (AKA rustication).

but once you get to durham you quickly realise with a single screen cinema, a bowling alley, or rowing, there is little to do but drink. esp if your doing a dos subject like law there is little to do except drink. alot depends on how social you are, i just happened to be put with 8 other alcoholics in my first term including the legendary hairy bob.
to be honest, castle is one of the most consistently drunken colleges, if your tea total just go to hild bede where drinking clubs are banned.

most i spent on booze in a single term was between £5-6k (2nd term 2nd yr).
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I'm studying in Durham and I am surprised at how small the drinking culture actually is. Basically college prospectuses will make out that its all party time. the reality is that most of us are far too busy withthe stupidly high amounts of work we get set (if your a law student!)
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all we do in durham is drink... err, you can also get occassionally told of for damage you cause (called bursar baiting) and threats of keeping of terms (AKA rustification).

but once you get to durham you quickly realise with a single screen cinema, a bowling alley, or rowing, there is little to do but drink. esp if your doing a dos subject like law there is little to do except drink. alot depends on how social you are, i just happened to be put with 8 other alcoholics in my first term including the legendary hairy bob.
to be honest, castle is one of the most consistently drunken colleges, if your tea total just go to hild bede where drinking clubs are banned.

most i spent on booze in a single term was between £5-6k (2nd term 2nd yr).
NB Not everyone at Castle is like this - it's like rahs, they just make a lot of fuss and drown out the ordinary people. :rolleyes:

Oh, and it's rustication, not rustification...
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Siany compared to a big city like Nottingham, the Durham nightlife came across as very quiet. I wouldnt worry about it, you will find you own level for how much you want to/don't want to drink. If you get judged because of it because of "mates" ditch them, they shouldnt be so judgemental. It is quite possible to have a good time at uni without drinking loads, it just means you wont be conforming to the sterotype and might end up quite abit richer.
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I'm studying in Durham and I am surprised at how small the drinking culture actually is. Basically college prospectuses will make out that its all party time. the reality is that most of us are far too busy withthe stupidly high amounts of work we get set (if your a law student!)
Ah...u poor people who do real degrees! U should have opted for something like classics....v little work, more time for everything else!
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Physics is a degree which leaves time for bugger all else.

Stupid 30 page lab report.

Exams in less than 3 months, ****socks!

Also, the above castle chap may think law's a doss, but a friend who works bloody hard at law just got an offer from a big london law firm, with a starting salary in the region of 20k and rising sharply.
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Physics is a degree which leaves time for bugger all else.

Stupid 30 page lab report.

Exams in less than 3 months, ****socks!

Also, the above castle chap may think law's a doss, but a friend who works bloody hard at law just got an offer from a big london law firm, with a starting salary in the region of 20k and rising sharply.
I read chemistry and i still find time for having a good time/ drinking
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cardinal: yes its true, not EVERYONE in castle drinks, but most do and most that do regularly drink to excess. you tend to hear about drunken behaviour cos "well i had a few, got a bit tipsy and went to bed" really isnt very good gossip (and as you know castle runs on gossip as does any college)
yes your right, it is rustication.
drinking does vary year to year, the year i came there was some outrageous drinkers, in my second yr the 1st yr (who generally dictate how much drinking goes on inside college as they form the bulk of livers in) were notorious for not drinking and the current 1st yrs are enthusiastic drinkers.

law at durham IS a dos, you can quite easily sail through your first two years without having any assessed work and just cram for the exams (made a whole lot easier by lecturers almost explicitly telling you what topics come up in exams). 3rd yr is a bit tricky as you are required to take a module with an assessed element, which means doing an essay that will affect your mark (shock horror). if a degree for which you only really have to study for two terms isnt a dos, then what is (and no, iam not unusual or going for the 3rd)???


as for a 20k starting salery, err, thats quite normal isnt it, get a 2:1 (which you can do with very little input of effort) and you should achieve this as
Durham law degrees are highly regarded. btw: i think a 1st gives the wrong signal, either get a 3rd (excuse: to much time playing sports) or a 2:1 (no excuse needed, the balance was well stuck between socialising, sports and work showing excellent team skills and time management). i personally find the modern notion that university students are supposed to work quite shocking.
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Sam, while I agree with some of your points, law certainly is no "dos" as you say. It is hard work. If you want to scrape the bare minimum then, by all means, do it your way, if you want to suceed and understand things fully (for when they DO ask you about them in interviews) then it is hard work. Don't try to make out you are some academic star because you find it so easy.

Oh and sam: being banned and drinking lots isn't really that funny or clever. I think most people in life are pretty sick and tired of drinking related boasting. You sound like a chav
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Sam, while I agree with some of your points, law certainly is no "dos" as you say. It is hard work. If you want to scrape the bare minimum then, by all means, do it your way, if you want to suceed and understand things fully (for when they DO ask you about them in interviews) then it is hard work. Don't try to make out you are some academic star because you find it so easy.

Oh and sam: being banned and drinking lots isn't really that funny or clever. I think most people in life are pretty sick and tired of drinking related boasting. You sound like a chav

surprisingly (and this may come as a shocker), if you do the bare minimum, you will not know the law back to front. but then again you dont need that level of knowledge to get into a law firm, to say otherwise is rubbish. i dont think i was trying to make myself out as a genius, i was pointing out how easy a law degree can be because there are those myths that its some incredibly hard degree on a par with eg sciences. having dated ppl doing physics and maths (amongst others) it really isnt.

i personally think that if people were bored with drunks then bars would close and there would be no drinking clubs, you sound like just the sort of person who spend their time at uni in the corner of a college bar with a pint of coke hating those who are having the time of their lives. i have absolutly no problem with you living your life as you do, but taking out your hate of the lash out on me is a bit sad. drinking occurs at durham, the title of this thread is "all that ppl do at durham is drink", and to be fair there is ALOT of drinking. if you didnt like drinking culture and its related effects why the hell did you come to durham?

and i have never been called a chav before in my life, a chav??? i dont know how the hell you made that particular link.
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Oh and sam: being banned and drinking lots isn't really that funny or clever. I think most people in life are pretty sick and tired of drinking related boasting. You sound like a chav

oh and "its not funny or cleaver". wow. what a phrase, i feel so chastised. but i dont think i really said it was funny or cleaver, although i do think some things that have happened while i have been at uni under the effects of alcohol have been quite funny. at the beginning of the thread people were talking about the amount of money spent on booze, i was merely giving my experience of how it can get quite out of hand.
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Look sam if you knew me outside of cyber world you would see that I am certainly not in any way the gimp at the corner of the bar. I go out and drink like you do, I have agreat time, be silly, do silly things and go nuts. Yeh my friends and i go mad. I certainly don't hate anyone for what they do and never want that assumption to be made. Ok the chav thing a bit of a tenuos unfounded joke, but I just think you were boasting about it a bit much. I'm all for having a laugh but don't subscribe to telling the world about it. that implies some need for attention which you may or may not have.

I came to durham mainly for reputation.

I do think it counts in interview. I have had questions like "tell me everything you know about consideration in contract". Lots of extra reading definitely helped. It's not rubbish man.

I am still shocked to be called the guy supping coke in the bar. I might have to challenge you to a game of good old pubgolf for that and show you the real me

ok man lets leave it. have a great time in durham
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About 3 people at durham law get a 1st every year, 2.1's are ****ing hard to come by and 2.2's are generally the norm.

I'd like to see anyone get a decent law job with a 2.2, because nobody i know with one has.
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I agree morals officer. A 2.1 is bloody hard. I do a lot of serious reading work for my essays and rarely get more than 60%. Tis no joke a good 2.1 law degree
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Aye. Also, the guy i mentioned earlier has a contract at one of the top 3 law firms (buggered if i know its name though). He'll be earning huge money, in a large shiny canary wharf building.
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About 3 people at durham law get a 1st every year, 2.1's are ****ing hard to come by and 2.2's are generally the norm.

I'd like to see anyone get a decent law job with a 2.2, because nobody i know with one has.

ok, lets correct this....

1stly) yes it used to be only 3 ppl a year got a 1st. last yr, under pressure from the university the dept gave them on merit (ie did not set a 3 ppl only upper limit). there were over 10 ppl getting 1sts last year.

2ndly) i am pretty sure over 60% get a 2:1 in law at durham (this is off the top of my head, but its certainly not far off, its not under 50%, perhaps it says something in ucas about this). a 2:1 is all thats expected of any graduate program.(and yes ofcourse you have to show abilities to distinguish you from other candidates blah blah blah).

3rdly) i think i have shown that 2:2s are not the norm as they constitute less than half of the grades given.

check ur facts.

oh, as for not getting a decent law job with a 2:2, thats also not correct. while a law firm you apply for will expect you to get a 2:1, they will not always specify this on their pupilage offer. so while you may eventually get a 2:2 in the exam this does not mean you cannot go on to complete your contract with a top law firm. and i know of such contracts, i live with two housemates who have them.
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