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Intensive A Level Mathematics/Dilemma

Okay this is my first ever thread on TSR people so be nice.

So this is my Dilemma.

Studying 3 A levels currently and just recently realised that i need an 'A' in A level Mathematics to study Economics in most good universities. Spoke to my A level coordinator at my college and he said its faaar to late to join the course and said i should consider picking it up as an AS whilst studying for my A2. Despite this I am positive most good unis like UCL and Warwick require an A level in Mathematics. It was then that it came to me that they also teach A level Mathematics as an Intensive course (basically a course in which both as and a2 are rolled into a full academic year-for those who dont know). So what I am trying to say is:

1) Say i do take an A level Intensive in Mathematics would Unis that i apply to consider it as 3 A levels and an Intensive course? or 4 A levels ? or both?
2) How Difficult/Demanding/Interesting/Challenging would it be studying it?(Intensive A level Mathematics that is)

Hope I'm not asking for too much ppls, and appreciate all replys!
OnDaRunFromPoor

2) How Difficult/Demanding/Interesting/Challenging would it be studying it?(Intensive A level Mathematics that is)

Hope I'm not asking for too much ppls, and appreciate all replys!
It depends on the person. A-level Maths has some similarities to GCSE, but a lot of it is different. My brother is currently semi-studying A-level in a year. Well, he's with the AS class, but I already tought him C1 and C2 in the summer so he just has to do S1 by the January exam session. Then after that, if I feels he done well, he will do C3 and C4 whilst the school is teaching M1. Anyway, you just need a decent textbook; I recommend Longman Advanced A-level Mathematics textbooks (one for AS and one for A2). I studied AS Maths by myself and struggled due to lack of worked examples, but this textbook helped me greatly, so check it out.

You can still enter for summer exams, so perhaps you may want to take AS Maths in the summer independently. Then take A2 next year and possibly AS further Maths if you're thinking of Warwick and UCL (but really you should have a full A-level in further for them).
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If you are good at maths and enjoy it then the intensive course should not be a problem as many people do A level mathematics in one year (if they do further maths).
Or Mayve you can self teach one or two modules yourself to take the exam this year and then the rest nxt year. C1 is a good one to do this year and if you got an A* in GCSE maths then C1 is alot of continuation from GCSE. Also surly if you try self teaching, your teachers could help you when you are stuck when they are free right?
Reply 3
OnDaRunFromPoor
Okay this is my first ever thread on TSR people so be nice.

So this is my Dilemma.

Studying 3 A levels currently and just recently realised that i need an 'A' in A level Mathematics to study Economics in most good universities. Spoke to my A level coordinator at my college and he said its faaar to late to join the course and said i should consider picking it up as an AS whilst studying for my A2. Despite this I am positive most good unis like UCL and Warwick require an A level in Mathematics. It was then that it came to me that they also teach A level Mathematics as an Intensive course (basically a course in which both as and a2 are rolled into a full academic year-for those who dont know). So what I am trying to say is:

1) Say i do take an A level Intensive in Mathematics would Unis that i apply to consider it as 3 A levels and an Intensive course? or 4 A levels ? or both?
2) How Difficult/Demanding/Interesting/Challenging would it be studying it?(Intensive A level Mathematics that is)

Hope I'm not asking for too much ppls, and appreciate all replys!

Over half of the academic year has already gone, and you'll be doing your entire a level in the summer i.e. 1 sitting which is alot harder.
vinsta
Over half of the academic year has already gone, and you'll be doing your entire a level in the summer i.e. 1 sitting which is alot harder.
I believe he means whole A-level Maths in the A2 year.
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Mustard-man
I believe he means whole A-level Maths in the A2 year.

Which is what I said, but he will have to sit all 6 exams in june because it's too late to enter for jan exams.
Reply 6
It is possible with very long hours of Mathematics studying, learning revision

If you learn 1 unit in 4 weeks, you should only need 24 weeks, in theory 6 months to do 6 units

If you want to study Economics, then you do need maths
although, BA Economics at places like Manchester do not require maths, but any BSc or oxford/cambridge Economics will mean you need maths, and at a grade A if you want to go to warwick, UCL...

a level intensive maths in 1 year is not superior to a level mahts in 2 years...
(howevera level intensive maths in 1 year and then a level further maths in the next year is superior)

to put simply:
Mathematics A Level = 6 Units = 2 years
Mathematics A Level = 6 units = 1 years
Both are equal.
Great feedback people ! ......... but i was hoping more light could be shed on the first question? :erm:

1) Say i do take an A level Intensive in Mathematics would Unis that i apply to consider it as 3 A levels and an Intensive course? or 4 A levels ? or both?

I just cant help feel somewhat disadvantaged to my peers.
OnDaRunFromPoor
Great feedback people ! ......... but i was hoping more light could be shed on the first question?

1) Say i do take an A level Intensive in Mathematics would Unis that i apply to consider it as 3 A levels and an Intensive course? or 4 A levels ? or both?

I just cant help feel somewhat disadvantaged to my peers.
They would consider it as an extra A-level as it's common for further maths students do A-level Maths in one year and Further Maths the next year, so it's nothing special.

It may be slightly disadvantageous if you're doing the full A-level in your A2 year because you won't have an AS grade, and thus your teacher won't have something to base the A2 prediction on.
Seeing as it's the same exams, it's just the same as spreading the 6 units across 2 years.
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Mustard-man
They would consider it as an extra A-level as it's common for further maths students do A-level Maths in one year and Further Maths the next year, so it's nothing special.


:ditto:
Reply 11
OnDaRunFromPoor
Okay this is my first ever thread on TSR people so be nice.

So this is my Dilemma.

Studying 3 A levels currently and just recently realised that i need an 'A' in A level Mathematics to study Economics in most good universities. Spoke to my A level coordinator at my college and he said its faaar to late to join the course and said i should consider picking it up as an AS whilst studying for my A2. Despite this I am positive most good unis like UCL and Warwick require an A level in Mathematics. It was then that it came to me that they also teach A level Mathematics as an Intensive course (basically a course in which both as and a2 are rolled into a full academic year-for those who dont know). So what I am trying to say is:

1) Say i do take an A level Intensive in Mathematics would Unis that i apply to consider it as 3 A levels and an Intensive course? or 4 A levels ? or both?
2) How Difficult/Demanding/Interesting/Challenging would it be studying it?(Intensive A level Mathematics that is)

Hope I'm not asking for too much ppls, and appreciate all replys!

What are your current 3 AS-levels and what grades are you predicted?
What grade did you get at GCSE Maths?
Why did you not take Maths at AS-level?

Look at TAELT (link in my sig). This confirms what you said about top unis requiring A-level Maths. Hence I can understand why you want to take it.
Paulwhy
What are your current 3 AS-levels and what grades are you predicted?
What grade did you get at GCSE Maths?
Why did you not take Maths at AS-level?

Look at TAELT (link in my sig). This confirms what you said about top unis requiring A-level Maths. Hence I can understand why you want to take it.


Well i'm currently studying Media Studies, ICT and Business Studies and resitting my GCSE Maths to be honest. My last year in secondary school was plagued by tradegys and upsets......but I am in no way using that as an excuse because as I've unfortunately learnt things the hard way. I'm trying to get back on achieving those straight A's (not that i was before or anything!)

As for why didnt i take as maths....I didnt have the requirements so it was a big no-no....
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OnDaRunFromPoor
Well i'm currently studying Media Studies, ICT and Business Studies and resitting my GCSE Maths to be honest. My last year in secondary school was plagued by tradegys and upsets......but I am in no way using that as an excuse because as I've unfortunately learnt things the hard way. I'm trying to get back on achieving those straight A's (not that i was before or anything!)

As for why didnt i take as maths....I didnt have the requirements so it was a big no-no....

Your current selection of A levels won't do you any good for warwick and ucl.
Reply 14
OnDaRunFromPoor
Well i'm currently studying Media Studies, ICT and Business Studies .

ICT, Media Studies and Business are both blacklisted subjects for top econ courses. Whilst Bus is accepted as a poor substitute for economics.

So your AS-level are not great for getting into the very competitive courses, e.g. the top 11 on TAELT.
OnDaRunFromPoor
and resitting my GCSE Maths to be honest. My last year in secondary school was plagued by tradegys and upsets......but I am in no way using that as an excuse because as I've unfortunately learnt things the hard way. I'm trying to get back on achieving those straight A's (not that i was before or anything!)

As for why didnt i take as maths....I didnt have the requirements so it was a big no-no....

If you are resitting GCSE Maths currently then maybe aiming for just AS-level maths next year would be more realistic than attempting to do a full Maths A-level in just 1 year.

So your AS-levels, GCSEs or lack of Maths are not great for getting into the very competitive courses, e.g. the top 11 on TAELT. But outside that you do have a better chance.

So your AS-level are not great for getting into the very competitive courses, e.g. the top 11 on TAELT.


So your AS-levels, GCSEs or lack of Maths are not great for getting into the very competitive courses, e.g. the top 11 on TAELT. But outside that you do have a better chance.


Well...... obviously i wanted to take up better 'academic subjects' but wasn't allowed to as my GCSE grades were disastrously poor.

So what are you suggesting?..... that i should aim for **** unis such as middlesex and thames valley? :frown:

I realise that there is nothing wrong with having ambitions but bearing in mind their realistic. :yep:
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OnDaRunFromPoor

So your AS-level are not great for getting into the very competitive courses, e.g. the top 11 on TAELT.


So your AS-levels, GCSEs or lack of Maths are not great for getting into the very competitive courses, e.g. the top 11 on TAELT. But outside that you do have a better chance.


Well...... obviously i wanted to take up better 'academic subjects' but wasn't allowed to as my GCSE grades were disastrously poor.

So what are you suggesting?..... that i should aim for sh*t unis such as middlesex and thames valley? :frown:

I realise that there is nothing wrong with having ambitions but bearing in mind their realistic. :yep:
Sorry. I thought my post was pretty explicit in suggesting that whilst the top 11 were out of your reach the rest were not. (I would have given more explicit suggestions if you had given your AS predictions).And no I would not recommend Middlesex and Thames Valley.
Reply 17
hi

Can I just kindly add that I have the same issue, i am currently in lower sixth and at present City University London does not require maths A level as entry requirements for Economics BSC.

You are instead taught the required maths as part of your course as a module.

Also City University is a highly respected Uni especially in the field of economics, with a very high employment rate post graduation and employers actively seeking students from there. The Entry requirements for 2012 entry (2011 Applications) will "Most Likely" increase from AAB to AAA.

Thanks
Reply 18
I'd recommend trying to do it. Depending on how well you did at GCSE and how straightforward you find maths generally, it's not so challenging - I self-taught the majority of a maths AS last year, and got a good mark. Especially if you took the 'easier' modules (M1/S1/D1) as applied modules.

If you really want to get into the top universities for economics, I'd also consider looking at further maths - it's not required, but it gives you an edge over other applicants. It might mean that you have to spend 2 years covering maths and further maths properly, but it would increase your chances of getting in somewhere like Warwick.
Original post by itrader

Original post by itrader
hi

Can I just kindly add that I have the same issue, i am currently in lower sixth and at present City University London does not require maths A level as entry requirements for Economics BSC.

You are instead taught the required maths as part of your course as a module.

Also City University is a highly respected Uni especially in the field of economics, with a very high employment rate post graduation and employers actively seeking students from there. The Entry requirements for 2012 entry (2011 Applications) will "Most Likely" increase from AAB to AAA.

Thanks


I wouldn't say city was highly respected in the field of economics or they had very high employment rates, this analysis is based on mediocre research scores and mediocre graduate prospects (especially for a uni in London). Despite this I think City is a great uni.

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