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Reply 1
Depends what you class as "employability rate", really. Just those in graduate employment six months from graduation? City is quite high I think, yes. Many of the unis that are particularly strong in business or professional courses (Strathcyle, some of the former polys do quite well).
Reply 2
Golden triangle I'd imagine, specifically ones like Imperial (who have millions of medics etc).
Reply 3
Waheyyyy
Golden triangle I'd imagine, specifically ones like Imperial (who have millions of medics etc).


Why would the "Golden Triangle" have a particularly high employment rate?

Also, Imperial isn't the only university to have millions of medics (and isn't part of the university of London anyway).
Reply 4
River85
Why would the "Golden Triangle" have a particularly high employment rate?

Also, Imperial isn't the only university to have millions of medics (and isn't part of the university of London anyway).


Oops, does the golden triangle only refer to Oxbridge + Uni of London 'colleges'? I meant all the (good) London Unis, not just UoL ones.

I'd assume they have a good employment rate because they are 'good' Unis (provide strong education, by top class academics etc) therefore employers value a degree from there over a degree from somewhere else.

Edit: Just had a quick look, and according to The Times leage table when in order of 'Graduate Prospects' the top 4 are Oxbridge, Imperial & LSE.
Reply 5
Waheyyyy
Oops, does the golden triangle only refer to Oxbridge + Uni of London 'colleges'? I meant all the good London Unis, not just UoL ones.

I'd assume they have a good employment rate because they are 'good' Unis (provide strong education, by top class academics etc) therefore employers value a degree from there over a degree from somewhere else.


The Golden Triangle is the three largest/leading research institutions (Oxford, Cambridge and University of London although Manchester's getting in on the act). Yes, it is all university of London institutions (which ones are the "bad" ones, then?) Using the term golden triangle suggests they are sought after because they come from largest research intensive universities. I don't see any link between this any how valuable their grads are.

They are great unis, but not really any better than a great deal of other universities. It doesn't mean the grads of these institutions (or the other top universities) don't have better employment prospects. Not over some of those at Aston (strong in engineering and business, many students undertake work placements giving them contacts and making them more attractive), the new universities (have a strong empahsis on medical professions, surveying, architectire and other professions/vocational courses)....

It really depends what's meant by employment rate. But the importance of university brand really is exagerrated on here.
Reply 6
River85
The Golden Triangle is the three largest/leading research institutions (Oxford, Cambridge and University of London although Manchester's getting in on the act). Yes, it is all university of London institutions (which ones are the "bad" ones, then?) Using the term golden triangle suggests they are sought after because they come from largest research intensive universities. I don't see any link between this any how valuable their grads are.

They are great unis, but not really any better than a great deal of other universities. It doesn't mean the grads of these institutions (or the other top universities) don't have better employment prospects. Not over some of those at Aston (strong in engineering and business, many students undertake work placements giving them contacts and making them more attractive), the new universities (have a strong empahsis on medical professions, surveying, architectire and other professions/vocational courses)....

It really depends what's meant by employment rate. But the importance of university brand really is exagerrated on here.


There aren't any bad ones in the UoL as far as I know, but by good I meant the best ones (LSE, UCL, Imperial) - hence 'good' in inverted commas :smile:

Well going to a Uni which has the latest research would surely mean you have the most up to date, world class information at your disposal. Also, to get into these top Unis you have to be academically intelligent in the first place. Surely if you did an average salary survey 1 year after graduation of all the different Unis, the golden triangle would come out on top, if not right up there?

I'm taking employability rate to mean how employable the graduates are, meaning they are more in demand, meaning they get better jobs. If you are taking it to mean 'in any graduate level employment after 6 months' as the leage tables do, then there are also seemingly random Unis right up there in the top 10 too.
Reply 7
You can check on unistats.com
LSE
Reply 9
I hate how people sometimes think that going to a non top ten university means that you are not as academically intelligent as the people who go to such universities. The only measure of this is A-levels tbh, and I know plenty of people who could have achieved AAA at A-level, but either had personal problems at home or just did not put the effort in. People at top tens are obviously more driven and willing to put the time in, but not necessarily more intelligent.
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Reply 11
King's College London are high. Tbh though, it depends on your subject and the career you are looking to get into. UoL students and Oxbridge will all rate highly due to their reputation and location.
Reply 12
Waheyyyy
Oops, does the golden triangle only refer to Oxbridge + Uni of London 'colleges'? I meant all the (good) London Unis, not just UoL ones.

I'd assume they have a good employment rate because they are 'good' Unis (provide strong education, by top class academics etc) therefore employers value a degree from there over a degree from somewhere else.

Edit: Just had a quick look, and according to The Times leage table when in order of 'Graduate Prospects' the top 4 are Oxbridge, Imperial & LSE.


Napier University comes eighth in that list, I think it's safe to say there isn't neccessarily a corralation between being a university with strong pretiege and academic record and it's place on the Time's graduate prospects list.
Reply 13
stormfire
I hate how people sometimes think that going to a non top ten university means that you are not as academically intelligent as the people who go to such universities. The only measure of this is A-levels tbh, and I know plenty of people who could have achieved AAA at A-level, but either had personal problems at home or just did not put the effort in. People at top tens are obviously more driven and willing to put the time in, but not necessarily more intelligent.


Who would you rather have as a university, someone who gets all A's and is incredibly focused and driven, or someone who is more "intelligent" but has no work ethic and drive.
I would say LSE, Oxbridge, Imperial, UCL, Warwick the usual suspects.
University of East London. Yeah baby!
Reply 16
Does that mean that Queen Mary and Goldsmiths etc are members of the Golden Triangle? As University of London colleges?

Awesome!
Reply 17
"Employability is very subjective.

Does it mean how quickly you can get any job, how quickly you can get a graduate job, how likely you are to be employed for your whole career, how likely you are to ultimately get your dream job etc?
Reply 18
Also, I always thought the Golden Triangle was Oxford, Cambridge, UCL, Imperial and LSE rather than UoL
Depends on the subject. Something like Medicine > Law > Dentistry > Economics > Mathematics and so on.
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University of East London. Yeah baby!


:ditto: