ID Problems in Eastern Europe

PS: I'm aware that the Netherlands is not Eastern Europe, I'm generalising.

hm... i know the ISE card is known is germany, not sure how well known amongst nightlife locations... but it mgiht get you a discount i nthe odd store, restaurant or hotel

dunno about photocopies... if they check for ID they're normaly quite strict and thorough... but not all places check for ID, so if one palce does 't let you in go to the next one.
Just make sure you don't all pay entry (which isn't all that common anyway) before your mate gets checked for ID

I found Warsaw to be quite strict on ID although my driving licence was always ok.

I am not sure what it is like in Germany but I was ID'd going into the Hofbrau Haus in Munich, they said you have to be 18 that the law had changed or something? Perhaps that is because it is so popular with tourists?

Driving licence should be fine, get a good quality fake and you would probably be ok. Particularly in Eastern Europe they might not be so used to a british licence and not so good at spotting fakes.

sorry, when I said the ISE i meant as a form of ID in conjunction with a passport photocopy, but from what's been said it looks unlikely

as a last resort, the 17-year-old guy can just hang around outside for a few hours

its good to have friends you can rely on :P

My friend has been to Amsterdam and she said they were ID'd EVERYWHERE.

In Berlin, I'm not sure about clubs, but I went when I was 15 and had absolutely NO trouble buying wine/spirits/beers in bars, shops and restaurants. But things may have changed since...

well yea, in shops and restaurants they're quite lenient, as the driniing age is 16. but in larger chains and shops they check ID especialy for spirits.
my friends sister got asked for ID once.. eventho she's over 30 and had her daughter with her

Really?! Has it always been like that? Because when I went to Berlin (aged 15) I remember going into KaDeWe and they were more than happy to sell me 2 litres of vodka...!

well you have to keep in mind that Berlin is a dump with the countries worst schools beeing there and almsot 20% unemployment. in an OECD study of over 280 regions, on their economic growth, Berlin was amongst the last. And in a study on the economic power of the 50 msot important cities in germany, berlin also came last.

its a dump, no idea why people go there. If the government wasn't there it'd compeltely collapse.

you can't expect much from a place like that

well you have to keep in mind that Berlin is a dump with the countries worst schools beeing there and almsot 20% unemployment. in an OECD study of over 280 regions, on their economic growth, Berlin was amongst the last. And in a study on the economic power of the 50 msot important cities in germany, berlin also came last.

its a dump, no idea why people go there. If the government wasn't there it'd compeltely collapse.

you can't expect much from a place like that

Is your friend a girl or a boy?
As I've had no problems what so ever in Europe with ID and I've been going out and about there since I was 16. I have no recollection of ever being asked for ID anywhere in Europe. I've generally always been travelling with just one or two other girls, whereas I know my guy friends have had more problems in places such as Prague and Amsterdam mainly because they look like a group of young, rowdy, British lads who were just wanting to get wasted.
If she is a girl, you might be better splitting up when you go into places and she should go in more on her own with one or two other girls. Even if he is a guy it might be better to split up and go for small groups rather than all enter in a big possy as then you do just attract attention to yourselves.

Is your friend a girl or a boy?
As I've had no problems what so ever in Europe with ID and I've been going out and about there since I was 16. I have no recollection of ever being asked for ID anywhere in Europe. I've generally always been travelling with just one or two other girls, whereas I know my guy friends have had more problems in places such as Prague and Amsterdam mainly because they look like a group of young, rowdy, British lads who were just wanting to get wasted.
If she is a girl, you might be better splitting up when you go into places and she should go in more on her own with one or two other girls. Even if he is a guy it might be better to split up and go for small groups rather than all enter in a big possy as then you do just attract attention to yourselves.