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Third Class Degree from Oxford University?

Bigcnee

The 1:1 from TVU.

I'm not so sure, I would actually say the 3rd from Oxford. Remember that so many people here get jobs through the contacts they make here rather than the formal entrance method...also I'd assume someone at Ox has a much better pre-uni edu background than a TVUer...

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AT82

But the Oxford graduate would appear lazy and not capable of doing the work while the TVU one will seem very hard working and able to take on a a challange.

Reply 102

Tek

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To the best of my knowledge you can't read Physics at TVU...

Reply 103

Kurdt Morello

Jools

I'm not so sure, I would actually say the 3rd from Oxford. Remember that so many people here get jobs through the contacts they make here rather than the formal entrance method...also I'd assume someone at Ox has a much better pre-uni edu background than a TVUer...

Depends - what is TVU - and another thing is that Oxford and Cambridge do get preferential treatment for employment inevitably - but i do know for a fact that for a time LSE and SOAS were rated higher than both for Law by many league tables - Ox and Cambs are very high standard universities but there is honestly not much between them and the next two - it is more about prestige and reputation in my opinion

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jammyd

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amazingtrade

But the Oxford graduate would appear lazy and not capable of doing the work while the TVU one will seem very hard working and able to take on a a challange.

People in this country are obsessed with Oxford though.

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viviki

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happysunshine

If someone gets a third from Oxford, they are just plain lazy and will never be able to brush that off.

Thats not true every uni gives out thirds and you never think it will be you but it is possible. It could be for a variety of reasons personal circs, home sickness, depression. Someone who get s a third at Oxford would prob easily get a 2.2 at another uni. the oxbridge workload is way morethan most unis.
To be honest some employers would rather have a 3rd ox grad than a 1st TVU it really depends on the employer.

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hitchhiker_13

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Bigcnee

The 1:1 from TVU.

I would agree, but I suppose it depends to an extent on what you want to do with your physics degree. If you want to go on and do a PhD or go into research, definitely. But if you want to go into finance or something it might not be so important, and at Oxford you'll probably have made contacts who can help.

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AT82

Kurdt Morello

Depends - what is TVU - and another thing is that Oxford and Cambridge do get preferential treatment for employment inevitably - but i do know for a fact that for a time LSE and SOAS were rated higher than both for Law by many league tables - Ox and Cambs are very high standard universities but there is honestly not much between them and the next two - it is more about prestige and reputation in my opinion

TVU - Thames Valley University, 120 points average UCAS entry, 80% employment rate, their website is also quite shockingly bad.

http://www.tvu.ac.uk.

There website reminds of the University of Bums on Seats (Peckham)

What makes me laugh the most about TVU is they call them selves a London university, they are based in Slough!

Reply 108

viviki

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Jools

I'm not so sure, I would actually say the 3rd from Oxford. Remember that so many people here get jobs through the contacts they make here rather than the formal entrance method...also I'd assume someone at Ox has a much better pre-uni edu background than a TVUer...

I agree plus they would have had the opportunity to do more networking due to the people they met at ox and the firms seeking out ox grads rather than TVU.

I've been to grad interview days where it has said on the application form that they dont accept forms from people with less than 2.1s and surprise surprise there have been tons of oxbridge 2.2 people there. Employers do appreciate how tough the competition is at ox.

Reply 109

Kurdt Morello

amazingtrade

TVU - Thames Valley University, 120 points average UCAS entry, 80% employment rate, their website is also quite shockingly bad.

http://www.tvu.ac.uk.

There website reminds of the University of Bums on Seats (Peckham)

What makes me laugh the most about TVU is they call them selves a London university, they are based in Slough!

jeez - i think my cousin goes there - no - tvu 1:1 does not begin to compare to Oxford 3rd - they dont have the same exams and Oxford's are obviously harder

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munchie_rox

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amazingtrade

TVU - Thames Valley University, 120 points average UCAS entry, 80% employment rate, their website is also quite shockingly bad.

http://www.tvu.ac.uk.

There website reminds of the University of Bums on Seats (Peckham)

What makes me laugh the most about TVU is they call them selves a London university, they are based in Slough!

80% is quite good...isnt it???? Website is laughably bad though..hee hee...

Reply 111

munchie_rox

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happysunshine

If someone gets a third from Oxford, they are just plain lazy and will never be able to brush that off.

that is such an insightful and useful post...thanks

Reply 112

viviki

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munchie_rox

80% is quite good...isnt it???? Website is laughably bad though..hee hee...

80% employment doing what??

Reply 113

jammyd

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amazingtrade

TVU - Thames Valley University, 120 points average UCAS entry, 80% employment rate, their website is also quite shockingly bad.

http://www.tvu.ac.uk.

There website reminds of the University of Bums on Seats (Peckham)

What makes me laugh the most about TVU is they call them selves a London university, they are based in Slough!

Every Uni is bums on seats. They are so underfunded - we need an increase now!

Reply 114

AT82

80% is quite bad. My university is 96% (Salford). This is just for any job though, (full time) one of the league tables goes off graduate level jobs does anybody know which one?

Reply 115

Kurdt Morello

Anyway i dont think much of the starter of this thread - sounds like a conceited wastrel with far too much time on his/her hands - what u must understand my friend is that there is little sympathy left in this world for those who waste opportunities gifted them by good luck and fate - grin and bear it or do the right thing and apply yourself for the first time since you left home for uni - we too have problems and worries about uni - especially with offers - think yourself extremely fortunate

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happysunshine

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munchie_rox

that is such an insightful and useful post...thanks

Reply 117

Kurdt Morello

happysunshine

hello happysunshine - surely u cant think much of the thread starter - right?

Reply 118

happysunshine

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Kurdt Morello

hello happysunshine - surely u cant think much of the thread starter - right?

No

Reply 119

jagenaught

If you're thinking of going to university, note that only degree class seems to matter to the obtuse set of people who unfortunately for me call themselves employers. Do an easy degree at an average university, have a little bit of fun whilst you're at it, romp home to your 2.1, and then you can get on with a successful life whilst I empty the wheelie bins at the bottom of your driveway on thursday mornings. Otherwise you might end up like me toiling all night and all day with an impenetrable subject, only to be dumped onto life's shit-heap at the end, regardless of what real talent you may possess.

I have to agree with you on the fact that empleyers these days just look for a classification regardsless of the degree and a s you pointed out I would advise anyone to just do an "easier" degree. I'm studying Mechanical engineering and based on my first semesters performance I'm on my way to getting a third. But there is always light at the end of the tunnel. There are quite a few firms in london that employ people with a third. Most go on to post grad courses after gainning the lrelevant experience. So its not all lost. One thing I d have is experience, the time spent doing a placement is invaluable. The best way forward is to just do what you can and see what happens.

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