Hi, just wondering if anyone knows about them and admissions?
Can you do the course as an immediate undergrad like the UK system or is it similar to the US system whereby you need to do the premed??
Oz run both systems - at some universities medicine is and undergraduate degree, while at others its post graduate...
do you know if they offer a foundation course for medicine similar to the 6year course they do in the uk???
This is a very old thread - but thought I'd add to it anyway for anyone who might look at it in the future.
Predominantly Australia has postgradruate medicine courses (4 years) - anyone with any undergrad degree (min 3 years) can do this provided you do well in the GAMSAT (this is the case for most universities) and then ace the interview which is tough at most universities - lots of scenarios etc. They say to do well in the GAMSAT you need 1st year university physics, chem and biology (I think) - but I have known plenty of people (myself included) who hadn't done these and did very well in the GAMSAT - you just need to do a bit of study leading up to the exam.
The postgrad universities with the old school reputations are Uni of Sydney, Uni of Brisbane and Uni of Melbourne (not 100% sure about that last one - I know one of them in Melbourne has this). They are the "sandstone" universities (I guess comparable to the "red brick" of UK universities, but not nearly in the same league of exclusivity). In Sydney - the other good postgrad course is at the Uni of Notre Dame - it's only been going for a few years, but I've heard rave reviews. My dislike with Notre Dame is that currently they are doing no anatomy and it's entirely PBL which could be tricky if you don't have a good biomed-type undergrad degree - doable though. Either Notre Dame or Sydney would be my first preference (but as a Sydneysider originally, I am biased). UK people might love Perth - pretty much constant sunshine and where all our supermodels seem to come from. It's a lot sleepier than Sydney/Melbourne though. But really, you'll be at university so wherever you are will be awesome.
In terms of undergraduate medicine courses- I know a lot less. You need to do very well in the UMAT (the most ridiculous test in the world) and then ace the interview. There are far fewer of these courses around the country so entry is a lot tougher. Uni of NSW is probably the best (again, take that with a pinch of salt as this is coming from a Sydneysider). The course in Adelaide is meant to be very good. There's one up in Newcastle as well (in NSW, but a smaller city). I don't really know much more. The courses run for about 6 years (?). Like the UK undergrad courses there is an opportunity to intercalate, per se.
A final word of warning to students who will be international students in Australia - the NSW govt (not sure about the other states) will not necessarily guarantee you a job after your degree which is just ridiculous considering technically your training is not completed until after those first couple of postgrad training years in the hospital. It's also ridiculous considering how much money you've just given to the Australian government in tuition fees alone. I'm outraged that we're treating you so badly. Australia needs doctors, yet won't spend the money opening more internship places to train our own junior doctors to fill these positions. Instead it will entice maturer doctors from overseas - the UK in particular.
Rant finished. Good luck if you choose to study in Australia. I'd recommend it any day of the week (says she who is currently studying at Bristol Uni)
Hi, i've researched alot on undergraduate med in Australia. Singaporean student here. (i've gotten a place in uk, but my applications to oz are still pending.)
there are few unis offering undergrad med in oz.
Let's go by state:
UWA- 6 year course, int'l students have to complete ISAT (Int'l Student Admissions Test, something like BMAT but w/o the essay.) + Interview.
Newcastle Uni- NOt available to applicants, only available to int'l students who complete the foundation studies in Australia.
UNSW- 6 years, no ISAT required, Phone interview, 70(!) places for int
'ls. be warned, very expensive.
Monash- 5 years, ISAT reqd, face to face interview, around 40-50 places. VERY VERY VERY expensive. 2010 fee- A$52,000. (32,000 pounds a year)
Uni of Tas- 5 year, ISAT requd, no interview. 20 places. cheapest uni there is, new clinical building
U Adelaide- 6 yr, PQA required (same one as KCL if im not wrong)
UQ- 6 years, provisional entry, first 2 yrs are BA/BSc/BHlthSci, then if your GPA is high enough, (5.0/7 if im not wrong), you progress on to the MB BS the next 4 yrs. ISAT reqd, No interview, 50 places for int'ls.
ISAT is extremely important. you can take it as many times as u want, but the unis will take the lowest score.
Minimum reqd A levels are AAA for UTAS, UNSW, Monash, UQ
AAB for UWA
ABC for Adelaide
TAS and UQ are very results based, so forget abt applying if you got AAB.
Also, I've heard working life as a dr there is less stressful than in UK(?) but definitely less stress than in Singapore, where i come from.
Unfortunately, Housemanship is not guaranteed, but if you do get a place, an Aus PR is pretty easy to get(i've heard)