Does anyone have really terrible lecturers who don't care about their students?

Some are far more involved with their research than teaching undergrads. Some are just utterly incompetent lectures. I think I have a good bunch, there's maybe one lecturer who's a bit poor. Well, probably more inexperienced as he's just finished his PhD. A lecturer I had in my first year, who looks like William Hague (he's a politics lecturer, so quite apt), certainly knows his stuff but his lectures were quite tedious. This is a combination of the dry course and lecturing.

So you don't have year tutors or course reps?

Thanks for your comments, I liked the one about William Hague...

I sometimes wonder why we have pay for a degree? The timetable is more part time that full time, it's well known that a degree is more "independent" learning, there are no mock exams or practice essay titles (at least in my course). The lectures are based on going over powerpoint slides which you can do your self. You literally have to hunt lecturers down.
Now college seems like something worth paying for. You are there almost everyday, for several hours a day, you do mock exams and practice essays, teachers actually teach and give up most of their day to do this. They guide you step by step (whilst not baby feeding you). They actually keep track of you, to make sure you are not dossing about. Yes, i realise the purpose of uni is to "prepare" you (although even in the "real" world, you are actually monitored and assessed reg. and you are not just left to do whatever). But is it worth paying for? Uni can stay working as it does..but paying £3145 a year for it? (Not that i think we should pay for college, just comparing the two).

I swear lecturers start on like £30,000 - that's not a tiny salary. Although obviously they will have had to invest a lot in their education. It's hardly a really stressful job is it, there's worse things they could be doing especially considering they probably like LOVE their subject. If I was that passionate about a subject I can't think of anything better than spend my whole days teaching, researching and reading about it

You've got to bear in mind that most lecturers are selected for the research ability and are given no formal training and very little support in delivering their teaching. Hence some are good but many aren't. Go back to the head of department (or whomever is responsible for teaching in you department) and say this is a general problem with the course and that many students feel the same way about the lack of support offered and the quality of teaching standards. You need to speak in terms they understand (i.e. mentioning the words 'quality' and 'support' and ensure that you have support from your classmates.

wow, I had no idea lecturers are selected for their research ability (I'm sure most students are not aware of this). I also naively assumed they would have to go on some sort of lecturer training course. It all makes sense now, on my course (and I would think many more) students are nothing more than an inconvenience...

£30k? That's pretty good. I got the impression they were all dirt poor.

But yeah that's why the wages are low in teaching generally, people are so passionate as to accept lower pay for doing what they love.

wow, I had no idea lecturers are selected for their research ability (I'm sure most students are not aware of this). I also naively assumed they would have to go on some sort of lecturer training course. It all makes sense now, on my course (and I would think many more) students are nothing more than an inconvenience...

£30k? That's pretty good. I got the impression they were all dirt poor.

But yeah that's why the wages are low in teaching generally, people are so passionate as to accept lower pay for doing what they love.

I thought lecturers earned very little. I have looked it up and the average pay for a lecturer is £36,489. This is the site I looked at: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=401025&sectioncode=26

I'm surprised they earn so much.