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The degree itself isn't what gives students a more mature outlook, its the fact that they've lived away from home for 3 to 4 years looking after themselves, ok so some are a little clueless, but most cope, many courses like my own have a placement year where you have to apply for a profesional job off your own back and work there for a year, i'm not sure how thats not gaining experience in the real world. I know i'm a lot more mature now than when i started uni, if i'd of got a job and worked these 4 years instead of the course i'd still be more mature, its more the time. The degree basically just shows a capability to learn to a higher level than A-levels thats all.

Please don't say degrees are a waste of time though unless you have or are doing one, its a little insulting to the people who put a lot of effort and many years of time into working towards obtaining one.

also it sounds like you just want to join the RAF to get a free jolly around in a plane rather than to join the RAF as an organisation?
Right, let me put a few things straight:

1.) I did not mean to offend anyone doing a degree for a real purpose other than to stall before going into the big wide world
2.) I had no intention of going into the RAF, however as I am 17 I like to keep my options open I am more attracted to go commercial in the civilian world
3.) I have just finished my PPL training (I am already a pilot)

So don't insult my intelligance nor get arguementative, I was merely putting my opinion across - thats all.
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Crikey! Don't get red faced!

I'm not sure anyone's insulted anyone yet, but if this banter carries on, I can see it heading that way.
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It certainly sounds as though you've been doing plenty during the time between school and your A-Levels.

I am not trying to say in any shape or form that people with degrees automatically assume a higher level of intelligence. There's that time-old tale of the university student who can't boil and egg. Believe me, these people DO exist! What should be noted also is that there are university students who can boil eggs, and wash clothes! These students are the ones that may do well at interviews, as they'll appear to have a good academic record, and seem level headed too.

As it has been said before, there is no formula to crack OASC; it's based entirely on tests that are designed to discriminate on the grounds of ability, not on an applicant's revision skills. If you feel you have what it takes to be an Officer, no one here should be deterring you!
I totally understand that. I didn't mean to say people who have degrees are stupid (which would be stupid of me to say). I was just pointing out that you don’t need a degree to come across as someone who is mature.

Oh and no one is deterring me. I was just interested in different peoples views on the degree/non-degree thing.
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woooo hang about who's insulting anyone here?

just saying degrees are worth doing! and aren't a waste of time!
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i really didnt want to go to uni, no i have no real choice! although i dont really know what its going to be like, i enjoy independance so i will probably thoroughly enjoy it, especially UAS. Its a shame i didnt get in after college, my 2 mates did and by the time i start IOT (if i succeed) they will already be flying!
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im doing my GCSE's atm and starting A-Levels in september. so far ive applied for English lit, history, politics and maths. im rethinking this though, as politics doesnt seem very useful and not much interest anyway, so would physics be a good way to go?

ive been told universties prefer you dont have a law A-level if you want to do a law degree (doesnt make much sense to me but ive heard its because alot of colleges/6th forms dont offer law), and since i want to be a legal officer, would english, maths, physics and law be more useful?

im interested in law, want to go on, get a degree (hopefully with RAF sponsorship) and join as a legal officer (ive been juggling career ideas between pilot and solicitor and decided to put them together ) . but how much time do specialist officers spend flying? its not a major problem even if i dont fly at all, but it'd still be good anyway.
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but how much time do specialist officers spend flying? its not a major problem even if i dont fly at all, but it'd still be good anyway.
None, effectively. If you're on a training station you might be able to get a bit of air experience, but maybe 30 mins - 1 hour, and probably only once. The flying's reserved for aircrew.
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(ive been juggling career ideas between pilot and solicitor and decided to put them together ).
mate, go for pilot first. you'll enjoy it more in the long term than law, and if you fail, you have law as backup! Your in an ideal position where being a pilot isnt the only thing in life you want. Some people on my OASC who failed at the stage i did were saying 'i dont wanna go to uni, i only wanted to be a pilot, now my lifes ruined' lol sad *******s!
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Can travel costs be claimed for going to any of the UAS' around the country? There isnt enough information about UAS on the net! Is anyone in UAS and wants to answer a few of my questions?
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Anyone who goes to OASC with one branch choice, especially just Pilot, deserves whatever the board gives them!
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Is it possible to start out as a pilot and transfer over to the law branch?
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Is it possible to start out as a pilot and transfer over to the law branch?
Theoretically yes, practically no. Why should we train you to the tune of millions of pounds just to have you change because you fancy something different?

If selected as a pilot, you'll serve 12 years minimum. If you decide to stay on, then you'll need to stay on as a pilot.

If you're removed from flying training, then there's no reason I can think of that prohibits you asking for legal as your first ground branch choice; although the RAF has no obligation to give it to you, if you're qualified and you want it, they probably will.
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Can travel costs be claimed for going to any of the UAS' around the country? There isnt enough information about UAS on the net! Is anyone in UAS and wants to answer a few of my questions?
Depends what you mean. Some will pay mileage costs to drive from uni to the appropriate station, but there's technically no such thing as "home to duty" pay in the RAF anymore; so some UASs decide that if you want to join (and with the number of applicants per place many have, they can ask for sacrifice!) then you'll have to put up with paying.

If you wouldn't join because they won't pay your petrol costs, then you're not likely to be missed I'm afraid! They will pay you attendance pay to compensate for you not being able to work, and for the 2 weeks min in the summer they take you. It used to be £38 a day, it'll have gone up now, but is capped at something like 30 days pay per year.
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Thanks for your help Wzz. I'll be visiting an AFCO in a couple of weeks, to sort out my options. I'll tell you how it goes
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On the antropometric side of things, one of main limiting factors for pilot selection that has been mentioned is upper leg length. Does anyone know what the cutoff is?
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A couple of years ago the buttock-knee range was 550-660mm. I don't think it's changed.
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I'm currently studying A-levels Maths and Physics. I've always had dreams of becoming a Pilot Officer but doubt this ever happening, as I recieved a knee injury 3 years ago. I suffered a dislocated knee as the result of someone skiing directly into the side of my leg. My knee was in a splint for 4 weeks, however i did not require sergery and have had an 'all clear' by the doctor just a few months ago. I was worrying that this would show up on my medical records if I tried to apply as a pilot officer. Even though i've had confirmation from a doctor that my knee is 100%, would this affect my chances?

Any information would be very much appreciated.

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It would definitely show up on your medical records, but I'm not sure how it would affect your chances. They may wish to assess the injury themselves to corroborate your own doctor's verdict.
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I'm currently studying A-levels Maths and Physics. I've always had dreams of becoming a Pilot Officer but doubt this ever happening, as I recieved a knee injury 3 years ago. I suffered a dislocated knee as the result of someone skiing directly into the side of my leg. My knee was in a splint for 4 weeks, however i did not require sergery and have had an 'all clear' by the doctor just a few months ago. I was worrying that this would show up on my medical records if I tried to apply as a pilot officer. Even though i've had confirmation from a doctor that my knee is 100%, would this affect my chances?

Any information would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
You should be alright; everything's done on a case-by-case basis, but if you can operate fine with your injury then I wouldn't worry about it.

Apply; the worst they can do is give you a few physio appointments or refuse!
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Hi, I'm still taking my A Levels in Biology, Physics and General Studies, but I need a year out to complete my History A-Level after knackering up the coursework (which was my own fault). I desperately want to be a Pilot (who doesn't!) and recently went to OASC in February this year, and only just failed for the University Bursary.

Do you think if I have a year out, join the UAS at University, and reapply it would look good on grounds of determination, maturity etc? Any help appreciated!!
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