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I not going to get stroppy at OASC, BUT, they need to understand that I'm after a commission. There's all of this talk about being an Officer 1st, and a specialist in your branch choice 2nd. They tell you at AFCO that you'll be asked why you want to be an Officer in the RAF etc... But then they suggest you should be NC Aircrew, or an Airman?!?!

I am, and will be, committed to the RAF, provided they can offer me a commission. It can't be all take, take, take, and I'm sure they must understand this.
You can make your point in the interview. When they asked me I said that bearing in mind I have a good degree, and have been travelling etc, I would fit in better as an Officer, and that I thought I was qualfied enough to do it.

I'm sure once you get in to the RAF they look after you, but up until they don't give a damn how long you wait, or how much it's affecting your current situation.
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(Original post by icklecathy)
I'm sure once you get in to the RAF they look after you, but up until they don't give a damn how long you wait, or how much it's affecting your current situation.
lol, don't we know it!
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Is anyone on her going to OASC on the 25th of July this year. I was wonderind also if anyone could gve me some advice on wat to expect from the interview, like how in depth do you need to know the training involved for you branch selections etc etc
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Hi is anyone going to OASC on 25th of july, and can anyone give me a bit more advice on the interview, ie how in depth do you need to know about the training involved for your branch selections. what sort of current affair questions should I expect

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Hi is anyone going to OASC on 25th of july, and can anyone give me a bit more advice on the interview, ie how in depth do you need to know about the training involved for your branch selections. what sort of current affair questions should I expect

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Tony,

I would make a brew, sit down, and spend a good hour reading back throuh these posts. There's some excellent information that runs accross a variety of subjects, especially current affairs and trades.

If you have a question on these, then feel free to offer it up to the appropriatly experienced posters, who have been doing this for months (years?) and those who have either been, about to go, or there

Cw
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Tony,

In regarsds to the interview, my prep was to know the break down of IOT, but you don't have to get silly with this, just know the three phases (basic, foundation, application) and know what it all culminates to (ex peace keeper)

In regards to your branch selections, I made sure I knew where it was for a start, and how many weeks it was.

Current affairs wise, I studied five international, and three domestic topics, varying from economical, political and financial news. You don't need to study over 12 topics etc, its just to make sure that you have an understanding throughout the world, and the UK.

Other than that, try and enjoy it, its certainly the quickest 45 minutes I've had!!!
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Go to the RAF Help Site and click on OASC in the general RAF section, then click on 'OASC, everything you need to know' and there's a break down of the whole process. Also try OASC selection process. Lots of info there.
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Hi, I'm going to OASC on August 10th. Just basically double checking that I am on the right line with my preparation.
I am running just under 4 miles a day in about 20mins, I havn't done a bleep test in years so I am not to sure if this is okay?

I have done a lot of research in to the current and future aircraft (Squads, deployments, upgrades, etc.) is this the most important area? Or are they more intersted in my knowledge of the RAF today, as in structure, role in the world with NATO, UN, etc?

Also I am keeping up to date with current affairs, I have about 6 or 7 international topics, but the domestic topics change very quickly and often seem to disappear with out a conclusion or don't really seem that relevant. E. G. Why the british are eating more specific types of chocolate (that was in The Economist)!!! I can relate a lot of the international issues to Britain, but is this what they will be looking for?

I have examples of the US airforce aptitude test. I Know there are a some differences between the RAF test and the US one, but the practice of mathematics and verbal reasoning seems useful.

If anyone can offer any other areas of study, or point me to a new area that I have missed I would be most grateful.
Also will I be able to have a few moments to recalculate (as in paper and pencil) to the new situation in the solo part of the group excercise?

Thanks

P.S. Previous posts have been very helpful, thank you!!
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(Original post by jamesfyvie)
Hi, I'm going to OASC on August 10th. Just basically double checking that I am on the right line with my preparation.
I am running just under 4 miles a day in about 20mins, I havn't done a bleep test in years so I am not to sure if this is okay?
This is a fast pace, you should be fine for the bleep test. On the day you will run faster than normal anyway.


I have done a lot of research in to the current and future aircraft (Squads, deployments, upgrades, etc.) is this the most important area? Or are they more intersted in my knowledge of the RAF today, as in structure, role in the world with NATO, UN, etc?
In terms of RAF knowledge you need to know what bases there are abroad (name all 5), and which is the most strategically importanat and why. Know about current aircraft, where it is based, and what it will be replaced by.
Yes NATO and UN is important but don't stress about it too much, it won't be talke about for more than a few mins.


Also I am keeping up to date with current affairs, I have about 6 or 7 international topics, but the domestic topics change very quickly and often seem to disappear with out a conclusion or don't really seem that relevant. E. G. Why the british are eating more specific types of chocolate (that was in The Economist)!!! I can relate a lot of the international issues to Britain, but is this what they will be looking for?

Just know what is going on in the major continents. It is also v. important to have an opinion on what you talk about, not just know the topic inside out. I talked about US Elections and Tuition Fees. You will only get asked about topics that you mention.


I have examples of the US airforce aptitude test. I Know there are a some differences between the RAF test and the US one, but the practice of mathematics and verbal reasoning seems useful.

If anyone can offer any other areas of study, or point me to a new area that I have missed I would be most grateful.
Also will I be able to have a few moments to recalculate (as in paper and pencil) to the new situation in the solo part of the group excercise?
Most of the aptitude tests you can either do or you can't. The only things you can practice are mental arithmetic and some basic maths.

In the solo part of the group excercise (the last bit, when you are called in individually), was nowhere near as scary as I imagined. I didn't get asked for any calcualtions, just to describe what I would do if one of the possible routes was taken away.

What branches are you going for ?
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Thanks Icklecathy, at least I now know I am covering the right areas. As for my branch choices:
1) WSO, 2) pilot, 3) Regiment and finally 4) Intelligence.
If I had a choice I would definitely want to be more involved in the front line of the RAF, but would happily go into another branch if my skills showed otherwise.
Although I am little worried about the talk of IOT being cancelled not just for August. I was hoping to go to the IOT in October, but I think thats just wishful thinking.
Do you know anything about how long it will take?
Plus I also heard that there is more competition around this time of year for places due to the excess of 6th form leavers applying?
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Thanks Icklecathy, at least I now know I am covering the right areas. As for my branch choices:
1) WSO, 2) pilot, 3) Regiment and finally 4) Intelligence.
If I had a choice I would definitely want to be more involved in the front line of the RAF, but would happily go into another branch if my skills showed otherwise.
Although I am little worried about the talk of IOT being cancelled not just for August. I was hoping to go to the IOT in October, but I think thats just wishful thinking.
Do you know anything about how long it will take?
Plus I also heard that there is more competition around this time of year for places due to the excess of 6th form leavers applying?
I was at OASC 2 weeks ago and was told October IOT is full. Still few places for Dec but filling up fast, Feb ok and next April may also be cancelled.

Competiton for WSO and Pilot will be fierce (infact all branches are at the moment). I don't think there are any vacancies for Int. Reg prob ok, although they are desperate for gunners so they may be inclined to ask you to go down that route, as a couple of the the lads on my OASC have been.

I have been shortlisted and told I will get a decision sometime in August. That's having originally applied last Nov.
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I just hope that I don't get through OASC, just to be told that I won't be going to IOT for a year!!!
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I just hope that I don't get through OASC, just to be told that I won't be going to IOT for a year!!!
Lol! It could happen though!

Stolen from Coldplay: Nobody said it was easy (no one ever said it would be this hard)!!!!!!!!
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I just hope that I don't get through OASC, just to be told that I won't be going to IOT for a year!!!
I'd rather have to wait for a year than just not get in at all. AT least then you know you've made it. :cool:
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Hi All

Just a few things;

Firstly, for those of you who remember I was the 32 yr old thinking of going forward as a Training Officer and have now decided that I am going for it. I am phoning this week to arrange my filter interview at AFCO. Had the presentation last week and realised that my age will be an advantage, so am going to push for OASC. (Just got to get running to shed a few pounds!!) Anyway thanks for many really useful postings on this site, been great in helping me make decision... :-)

One of the things that concerned me last week was the Spending Review, but have just seen TV news article that reckons that Defence should be OK, so fingers crossed for this afternoon. Lets wait and see...

A couple of things to finish - Is everyone aware of the new RAF magazine out, found a copy in Smiths, is going to be of help in preparation for my forthcoming challenge. Also, anyone thinking of heading over to Farnborough Air Show next week? I am hoping to get in on a trade day so wondered if anyone else heading there??
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At-a-glance: spending review

Here are the key points of Chancellor Gordon Brown's spending review statement setting out government spending plans for the next three years.
Total spending

*** National security and defence ***

Overall spending on national security to more than double from £950m to £2.1bn by 2007/8, including recruiting 1,000 extra intelligence officials.

The total defence budget would rise by £3.7bn to £33.4bn by 2007/8 - a real terms increase of 1.4%


WOOOHOOO! THIS CAN ONLY MEAN GOOD THINGS FOR RAF RECRIUTMENT!!
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At-a-glance: spending review

Here are the key points of Chancellor Gordon Brown's spending review statement setting out government spending plans for the next three years.
Total spending

*** National security and defence ***

Overall spending on national security to more than double from £950m to £2.1bn by 2007/8, including recruiting 1,000 extra intelligence officials.

The total defence budget would rise by £3.7bn to £33.4bn by 2007/8 - a real terms increase of 1.4%


WOOOHOOO! THIS CAN ONLY MEAN GOOD THINGS FOR RAF RECRIUTMENT!!
Yes, but a loss of 15,000 MoD civil service jobs. With most things civilianised these days, who's going to pick up the load.

Must admit though, everyone i have spoken to (even the interviewing officers at OASC) we quite worried about this review. Seems it has just skimmed them by.... until next time of course ?
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"reduce the numbers of civilians and military posts in administrative and support roles by over 15,000, and be on course to have relocated 3,900 posts out of London and the South East by 2010;
generate annual efficiency gains of over £1 billion in logistics and procurement (excluding procurement of military equipment by the Defence Procurement Agency) by modernising business processes;
generate annual savings of over £300 million in its ‘back office’, through rationalisation and information-enabled business change;

make better use of its assets and manpower to meet security threats, for example by harnessing new technology, yielding annual savings of over £1 billion; and

improve the defence information infrastructure, the defence estate, the management of the fleet of military vehicles and healthcare of service personnel, yielding improvements equivalent to around £330 million annually."
Not bad, but not good either ??

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Hi All

Just a few things;

Firstly, for those of you who remember I was the 32 yr old thinking of going forward as a Training Officer and have now decided that I am going for it. I am phoning this week to arrange my filter interview at AFCO. Had the presentation last week and realised that my age will be an advantage, so am going to push for OASC. (Just got to get running to shed a few pounds!!) Anyway thanks for many really useful postings on this site, been great in helping me make decision... :-)
Good stuff Simon, just make sure you have the right qualifications for Training Officer - a girl at my OASC only got told in her interview that she wasn't qualified, needless to say she didn't make Part 2! We couldn't believe it hasn't been picked up at the AFCO or in the filter interview.
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Yes, but a loss of 15,000 MoD civil service jobs. With most things civilianised these days, who's going to pick up the load.

Must admit though, everyone i have spoken to (even the interviewing officers at OASC) we quite worried about this review. Seems it has just skimmed them by.... until next time of course ?
Cutbacks in the MOD Civil Service aren't going to affect the chances of Joe-19-year-old getting a commission in the RAF. I think the theme of Gordon Brown's review was to get rid of the waste and ******** that preoccupies the Civil Service, making more resources available for the forces themselves (amongst other things).
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