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    (Original post by Tonyjones1980)
    Is anyone willing to take up my cash offer for aptitude questions before i go to oasc in (sh1t) 9 days now? :eek:

    seriously mind, absolutely any advice regarding oasc is gratefully recieved, for axample does anyone know really good websites for current affairs and world news over the last 12 months
    The BBC news website is good, it has pages for each continent, and and "in-depth" section for a look at more important news.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news
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    (Original post by icklecathy)
    I think failing and re-taking is ok so long as you end up with the right grades, I know I re-sat a few modules of my A-Levels ot get better grades. And if you get good A-Levels even better.
    At OASC they are looking for commitment, even if you fail some exams the fact you re-took them and passed is fine.
    Better that than opting for a branch that requires fewer qualifications.
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    pffft there is nothing wrong with lower branches. I went to uni and Im going in as trades.
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    (Original post by Weena_no9)
    Look at a picture of both together, the mosecone of the GR4 contains ground targeting radar and the F3 radar designed for tracking air targets. Consiquently the F3's nose is longer and thinner and the GR4 has a shorter fatter nose.

    Also all GR4's have black nosecones and F3's light grey, infact F3's are light all round in general. Also if you look at the RAF logo on the side of the air craft they're different. They both have red centres, but the F3 being a deffence air craft has a light blue ring surrounding it and the GR4 being and attack aircraft has a dark blue ring round it.

    There's also a GR4A, but they only real way to tell the difference between that and the GR4 is the tiny window just below the cockpit for the servalance equipment, which you'll never notice so don't worry about it.

    Right I'm off for some HoB action, laters.

    Suggest you do some research into this before commenting. I've seen plenty of GR4 aircraft without a black nosecone. In fact if you look on page 24 of Aprils Airforces Monthly you will see a Tornado GR4A with a grey nosecone.

    Another way of telling them apart is to look at the WSO's seat. I believe the F3 has a longer fusalage behind the WSO to the tail, which means that the engines are further back. On the F3 they are or almost are behind where the WSO sits. On the GR4 they are right next to the WSO
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    (Original post by mark1010)
    Suggest you do some research into this before commenting. I've seen plenty of GR4 aircraft without a black nosecone. In fact if you look on page 24 of Aprils Airforces Monthly you will see a Tornado GR4A with a grey nosecone.

    Another way of telling them apart is to look at the WSO's seat. I believe the F3 has a longer fusalage behind the WSO to the tail, which means that the engines are further back. On the F3 they are or almost are behind where the WSO sits. On the GR4 they are right next to the WSO
    Either way, I doubt it would make a bit of difference in trying to pass OASC.
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    (Original post by icklecathy)
    Either way, I doubt it would make a bit of difference in trying to pass OASC.

    You never know. i certainly wouldn't want to give the wrong information when describing an aircraft to them.
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    (Original post by mark1010)
    You never know. i certainly wouldn't want to give the wrong information when describing an aircraft to them.
    All i'm saying is when I was at OASC a few wks ago I didn't get asked about anything in that much detail.
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    Thanks to all for comments regarding Tornado differences. I asked because it was a question asked at AFCO, so was simply interested in the answer. If I was shown a picture of a Tornado at OASC it would be nice to be able to show that I know the difference, but whether or not they would treat it as life or death I don't know. I guess my whole attitude towards my OASC is, "be prepared - you can never know too much."

    Anyone know where I can download bleep test Mp3? I have followed a few links off of the older pages in these forums but none have proved successful.
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    (Original post by simon.h109)
    Thanks to all for comments regarding Tornado differences. I asked because it was a question asked at AFCO, so was simply interested in the answer. If I was shown a picture of a Tornado at OASC it would be nice to be able to show that I know the difference, but whether or not they would treat it as life or death I don't know. I guess my whole attitude towards my OASC is, "be prepared - you can never know too much."

    Anyone know where I can download bleep test Mp3? I have followed a few links off of the older pages in these forums but none have proved successful.

    have you tried Kazza or something like that? maybe a look at some training websites or something will help. to be honest the bleep test is a complete piece of piss if you r realatively fit (and that dont mean beable to run a marathon). u will be able to cruise up to level 8 anyway, then it hits you like a tonne of bricks but its all about timing.........count in your head the space between the first two bleeps on each level so you know what to aim for. remember that within levels the speed does not change if you can do level 10.2 why the hell can you not do 10.6?? its all about endurance. Some once told me how to do this test, thought ut was a funny why of thinking but it works.....here are a few tips:

    first two levels are walking pace, so why jog really slowly? only adds to burning your legs out quicker, from levels 2 - 9 think u r a race horse (no laughing here although sounds stupid its true as im well into horse racing)......top class group 1 race horses have to the ability to "switch off" this basically means that the jockey does not ride the horse until the final sprint. switching off is basically the horse convincing itself it nots using any effort while running the main part of the race. this is what you have to do? don't talk to anyone, guild yourself against someone who looks very confortable I.e the pace setter, thinking about anything but the levels getting harder. when u r close to what you consider as your target level get back into the race and dig deep. very long and probably really boring (sorry) but talking and thinking "**** this is getting really hard and its only level 7/8" will do urself no favours.

    sorry if that bored u all :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Tonyjones1980)
    first two levels are walking pace, so why jog really slowly?
    I don't agree with this. When I did the bleep at OASC nobody walked the first couple of levels, infact it's probably better to jog just as a warm up. I don't think I could have walked fast enough for level 2.


    only adds to burning your legs out quicker, from levels 2 - 9 think u r a race horse (no laughing here although sounds stupid its true as im well into horse racing)......top class group 1 race horses have to the ability to "switch off" this basically means that the jockey does not ride the horse until the final sprint. switching off is basically the horse convincing itself it nots using any effort while running the main part of the race. this is what you have to do? don't talk to anyone, guild yourself against someone who looks very confortable I.e the pace setter, thinking about anything but the levels getting harder. when u r close to what you consider as your target level get back into the race and dig deep. very long and probably really boring (sorry) but talking and thinking "**** this is getting really hard and its only level 7/8" will do urself no favours.
    It is only really possible to switch off if you are fit enough to just let your legs do the running. Take it seriously before OASC, go running every morning, practice sprinting, then you'll do fine.
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    (Original post by mark1010)
    Suggest you do some research into this before commenting. I've seen plenty of GR4 aircraft without a black nosecone. In fact if you look on page 24 of Aprils Airforces Monthly you will see a Tornado GR4A with a grey nosecone.

    Another way of telling them apart is to look at the WSO's seat. I believe the F3 has a longer fusalage behind the WSO to the tail, which means that the engines are further back. On the F3 they are or almost are behind where the WSO sits. On the GR4 they are right next to the WSO
    Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. You are quite right, GR4A's share a similar (if not the same) coulor scheme as F3's. When I said GR4's I meant GR4's only. They are nearly all (if not all) painted with a black nosecone. I would suggest that ny GR4 you say with a grey nosecone was infact a GR4A although I except that I could be wrong, I've just never seen one. Although if you read my post I think I can hardly be accused of not having done any research.
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    (Original post by Weena_no9)
    Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. You are quite right, GR4A's share a similar (if not the same) coulor scheme as F3's. When I said GR4's I meant GR4's only. They are nearly all (if not all) painted with a black nosecone. I would suggest that ny GR4 you say with a grey nosecone was infact a GR4A although I except that I could be wrong, I've just never seen one. Although if you read my post I think I can hardly be accused of not having done any research.
    LOL! I told you not to be vague Weena! Tut tut!
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    (Original post by icklecathy)
    LOL! I told you not to be vague Weena! Tut tut!
    :rolleyes:
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    Jeez, this is getting very picky isn't it? I'm sure if at OASC you are asked to identify a picture on the wall of a Tornado, getting confused between GR4 and F3 is unlikely to cost you dearly in my eyes. The fact you've successfully identified a Tornado, and named an operational type (even though it's wrong) is a positive thing.

    Knowing the ins and outs of these aircraft is all very well, and I would encourage it, but if the rest of the interview revolves around you demonstrating how ill-informed you are about the world, how little you can talk about your acheivements, and how intimidated you can get... you are certainly missing the point of OASC.

    PS. I graduated from Uni today with 1st Class Honours!
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    For Gods Sake!!

    I only asked because I was interested!! I am well aware of how OASC might expect me to answer, but I approach this task with the thoroughness I approach any other in my life

    Thanks for all the input, but I really insist we close this topic now. Please...

    Weena, you are thorough as ever.

    Icklecathy, you are helpful as ever.

    Mr Atco, congratulations on passing with first class honours.

    Now go out and have a blast. I intend to... the mean streets of Brighton await. And no I am not...




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    (Original post by js_atco)
    PS. I graduated from Uni today with 1st Class Honours!
    Cool! What in? (I'm sure you probebly said in an earlier post but I can't be arsed to look)

    Right I'm off to bed, have to get up at 06:30 tomorrow morning. RIAT awaits! :cool:

    PS. The easiest way to tell the difference between an F3 and a GR4 is.....






    GR4 goes - Whooooooooooooooooooooosshhhhhhh hhhhhhhh

    F3 goes - Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisshhh hhhhhhhhhhhh

    <------(Why is this smilie pink?)
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    Did Multimedia development, specialising in web application design. It's stuff like designing complex online booking systems, which could be used by airlines (or theme parks, as my LIVE project was concerned!)
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    damn what are you guys doing up so late? I had a panic earlier about my aptitude and now I feel all icky lol
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    I had just got back from my day of partying! Feeling like I shouldn't have done it.
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    heh I had a dream last night that I was a drill sergent in the army. It was fun
 
 
 
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