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I've been following this thread for a few weeks and just wondered if you'd heard anything yet icklecathy?
Nothing yet, the meeting was yesterday so should hear in the next week. I'll post as soon as I do!
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I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we've all got our fingers corssed. You've obviuosly done tons of work and preparation for it - Good Luck!
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I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we've all got our fingers corssed. You've obviuosly done tons of work and preparation for it - Good Luck!
Cheers, eveyone's support is great

I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't get in, purely 'cos of the cuts and vacancies available, but if I don't I know it wasn't because I wasn't good enough.
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Does anyone know if the cuts have affected the no. of 6th form scholarshisp being offered to potential medical officers?
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Does anyone know if the cuts have affected the no. of 6th form scholarshisp being offered to potential medical officers?
I don't honestly know, I think the best thing to do is ring your local AFCO, they have the most acurate and up to date info.
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I don't honestly know, I think the best thing to do is ring your local AFCO, they have the most acurate and up to date info.
Certainly would be nice if that were the case 100% of the time. However, the Air Force is fantastic at communicating badly. You may be better ringing Cranwell and speaking to someone about your specific branch.
For example, it was only during an Engineering Officer Enquiry visit to EST @ Cranwell that it came to light that the no. of Engineering Officer applicants per year had dropped from 118 to 59 (hmmm, HALF!) The AFCO were not aware of this.
Not throwing s**t at them, it'd be impossible to know everything, just thought I'd suggest another information source.

Wish OASC would give me a date, I am chomping at the bit now. :eek:
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Certainly would be nice if that were the case 100% of the time. However, the Air Force is fantastic at communicating badly. You may be better ringing Cranwell and speaking to someone about your specific branch.
For example, it was only during an Engineering Officer Enquiry visit to EST @ Cranwell that it came to light that the no. of Engineering Officer applicants per year had dropped from 118 to 59 (hmmm, HALF!) The AFCO were not aware of this.
Not throwing s**t at them, it'd be impossible to know everything, just thought I'd suggest another information source.

Wish OASC would give me a date, I am chomping at the bit now. :eek:
Thanks for that Guys. As Locust Builder rightly advised, the AFCO didn't really know what the impact was on specific branches, so I phoned Cranwell. They didn't go into massive amounts of detail, but said that because of the national shortage of doctors, sponsorship for medical officer will not be affected (Phew - I can start breathing again)

What jobs are people going for? (I gather a high percentage on this site want to be aircrew)

Locust Builder, do you have any advice for the filter interview?
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You're never going to have problems getting in as a Medical Officer.

I'm going for ATC. Going to OASC on 7th Sept. During my visit to the Air Traffic Training School at Shawbury, I was told that my branch is recruiting the same number as last year... 52. They reckon this figure will drop to around 30 next year, so I'm counting myself as quite lucky, getting there just before the sh1t hits the fan.
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I've been trying to find out if the selection process is the same for all officer branches, and have had some conflicting advice.

Do all officer posts have to complete the full set of aptitude tests - even if they would not be relevant to their job? A couple of people I have spoken to (who are going for professionally qualified posts), say these posts don't have to take the aptitude tests, other people who have been for selection say all officer posts do them. I'm confused. Does anyone know for definite? :confused:
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everyone applying into the forces has to sit aptitudes. I hated my one :mad: I have no spacial reasoning skills what so ever! I'm just killing time no until I get called up for training, so how's everyones applications going?
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Thanks for that Guys. As Locust Builder rightly advised, the AFCO didn't really know what the impact was on specific branches, so I phoned Cranwell. They didn't go into massive amounts of detail, but said that because of the national shortage of doctors, sponsorship for medical officer will not be affected (Phew - I can start breathing again)

What jobs are people going for? (I gather a high percentage on this site want to be aircrew)

Locust Builder, do you have any advice for the filter interview?
Nikki,
The filter interview is basically the first half of the interview that you will get at OASC.
Firstly, make a photocopy of your application form after you have filled it in and remember everything on it, even the trivial stuff you might have put on it that you did at school. (Clubs etc)
Depending on your age / experience you will be asked:
Your age in years and months, no. of bros. / sisters, family background.
Reasons for joining the RAF, also why have you chosen your particular branch / trade.
What you know about OASC, I talked for about 6 or 7 mins on it, I didn't just rattle off...Aptitude Tests, Medical etc - I explained briefly what each section was. Learn it all parrot fashion.
They will move onto what your specialist training involves / where it is / how long. It's all to see if you have done your homework.
The whole interview should last between 40 mins to an hour.
You will be asked to vanish for 30 mins or so, then you will be debriefed after being asked the standard qn:
"How do YOU think you did ?"
This section is pretty new, as it used to be very 'cloak and dagger'. In the past they have been known to send people to Cranwell with below average reports, only for them to be binned after day 1 without fully understanding why. This has now stopped and you will be told exactly what they think of you at the AFCO Filter Interview debrief.
Don't sweat about it Nikki, just fill out the app form with as much as you can remember you did at school / college / uni etc. The RAF love team sports, anything with a structure - ATC,Guides, Scouts etc, they lap up people with a sense of adventure - caving, skiing (extreme sports and suchlike) - Expeditions are a big part of RAF teambuilding. Finally anything that involves you in a position of responsibility - School prefect, representative for anything, have you organised anything. Community things or charity work - they LOVE it.
Wear the female equiv. of a suit / shirt tie, (I am assuming you are a girl spelling Nikki like that ?).
Shake the Officers hand nice and firm, smile, relax and enjoy it. The interviewing Officer will put you at ease before you even get into the interview room. That person should be the one that collects you from the waiting area with polite chit chat 'how did you get here?, roads busy ? etc'
Remember, the Air Force wants to recruit people, not scare them off.
If you could see the level of people that I teach at RAF Cosford you'd be shocked.
To all that didn't know or hadn't figured it out. I am currently serving, am an instructor in my trade and have applied for NCA.
Hope this all helps, let us know how it goes
Good luck.
(It's Locost , btw, Locust is a pest and a different kind of car altogether. Long story. )
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I've been trying to find out if the selection process is the same for all officer branches, and have had some conflicting advice.

Do all officer posts have to complete the full set of aptitude tests - even if they would not be relevant to their job? A couple of people I have spoken to (who are going for professionally qualified posts), say these posts don't have to take the aptitude tests, other people who have been for selection say all officer posts do them. I'm confused. Does anyone know for definite? :confused:
YES you do all the same aptitude tests regardless of branch choice, for definite!
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Nikki,
The filter interview is basically the first half of the interview that you will get at OASC.
Firstly, make a photocopy of your application form after you have filled it in and remember everything on it, even the trivial stuff you might have put on it that you did at school. (Clubs etc)
Depending on your age / experience you will be asked:
Your age in years and months, no. of bros. / sisters, family background.
Reasons for joining the RAF, also why have you chosen your particular branch / trade.
What you know about OASC, I talked for about 6 or 7 mins on it, I didn't just rattle off...Aptitude Tests, Medical etc - I explained briefly what each section was. Learn it all parrot fashion.
They will move onto what your specialist training involves / where it is / how long. It's all to see if you have done your homework.
The whole interview should last between 40 mins to an hour.
You will be asked to vanish for 30 mins or so, then you will be debriefed after being asked the standard qn:
"How do YOU think you did ?"
This section is pretty new, as it used to be very 'cloak and dagger'. In the past they have been known to send people to Cranwell with below average reports, only for them to be binned after day 1 without fully understanding why. This has now stopped and you will be told exactly what they think of you at the AFCO Filter Interview debrief.
Don't sweat about it Nikki, just fill out the app form with as much as you can remember you did at school / college / uni etc. The RAF love team sports, anything with a structure - ATC,Guides, Scouts etc, they lap up people with a sense of adventure - caving, skiing (extreme sports and suchlike) - Expeditions are a big part of RAF teambuilding. Finally anything that involves you in a position of responsibility - School prefect, representative for anything, have you organised anything. Community things or charity work - they LOVE it.
Wear the female equiv. of a suit / shirt tie, (I am assuming you are a girl spelling Nikki like that ?).
Shake the Officers hand nice and firm, smile, relax and enjoy it. The interviewing Officer will put you at ease before you even get into the interview room. That person should be the one that collects you from the waiting area with polite chit chat 'how did you get here?, roads busy ? etc'
Remember, the Air Force wants to recruit people, not scare them off.
If you could see the level of people that I teach at RAF Cosford you'd be shocked.
To all that didn't know or hadn't figured it out. I am currently serving, am an instructor in my trade and have applied for NCA.
Hope this all helps, let us know how it goes
Good luck.
(It's Locost , btw, Locust is a pest and a different kind of car altogether. Long story. )
Sorry about the mispelling of your name (I'll remember it in future). Maaaaaaaaaaany thanks for your advice it's really detailed and helpful. As you quite rightly guessed I'm still at school, having just finished my GCSE's. I'm really nervous about getting my grades as well as going for interview, but will just have to use the time to prepare well.

Cheers
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(It's Locost , btw, Locust is a pest and a different kind of car altogether. Long story. )
Hehe, the Lotus 7 based car. you got one yourself then?

On topic anyway, Did you ever have the chance on finding out about about the Commissioning Club?
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Sorry about the mispelling of your name (I'll remember it in future). Maaaaaaaaaaany thanks for your advice it's really detailed and helpful. As you quite rightly guessed I'm still at school, having just finished my GCSE's. I'm really nervous about getting my grades as well as going for interview, but will just have to use the time to prepare well.

Cheers
I hope you find it useful Nikki. It's nice to be able to put something back into the system. I just wish I had had someone to set my mind at rest when I was at the same stage. That part really isn't a massive hurdle. As I said, give them lots of details, show them you've done your research, be yourself and relax. If you are rattling on about something too much they will tend to move you onto the next question. Don't be put off, it's a time limit thing. The poor person has to remember all answers to write the report. It can't be easy for them either.
As a confidence boost for you: If you are heading down the medical / dental route they should snap you up.
I hope you do well.x

Scorg,
you have a private message ref Commissioning Club.
Off topic, but in answer to your qn. I do have a Locost Seven, a race car. :eek: Definitely NOT a Kit Car. There's no kit, it all done from scratch.
That's another story.
Locost Website
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[QUOTE=Locost Builder]I hope you find it useful Nikki. It's nice to be able to put something back into the system. I just wish I had had someone to set my mind at rest when I was at the same stage. That part really isn't a massive hurdle. As I said, give them lots of details, show them you've done your research, be yourself and relax. If you are rattling on about something too much they will tend to move you onto the next question. Don't be put off, it's a time limit thing. The poor person has to remember all answers to write the report. It can't be easy for them either.
As a confidence boost for you: If you are heading down the medical / dental route they should snap you up.
I hope you do well.x QUOTE]


I'd be really grateful for any advice/comments about my personal statement, which I have to send off in the next couple of days. I've sent it as a private message, so hope you don't mind having a look.

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Nikki
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Is there anyone who knows much about commissions in the army or can suggest a good forum elsewhere where i can find out what I want to know?
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Nikki, I didn't receive it. :confused:
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Is there anyone who knows much about commissions in the army or can suggest a good forum elsewhere where i can find out what I want to know?
www.militaryforums.co.uk has a sectiopn on the Army, not sure how much of it is related to Officer's though.
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Nikki, I didn't receive it. :confused:
Sorry - I'll try it again!
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