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As was previously posted, the tests are presented in a 'battery' of blocks of questions, with 5 minute breaks between them. They comprise motor skills and number recall, but all are essentially looking at your aptitude/IQ. This is the ability to think clearly at times of stress. Some of these tests develop into multi-input ordeals, where, with CLAN, for example, you have to do basic maths at the bottom of the screen, toggle between remembering disappearing sets of 7 letters and typing them down with large gaps in the middle and at the same time playing a diamond game where you have to cancel the diamond when it alines with the matching colour box. They look at wether or not you can multi-coordinate. The tests are larger (6 hours) for Aircrew/FC/ATC and smaller (3 hours) for general commission entries. It is important to ensure you stay positive at all times with the tests, i passed for Pilot, WSO, FC and ATC, but my number recall was particularly gray, however, at the end of the day, it is a pass or fail test, and if you go back (as for scholarships) you can really only get better!
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(Original post by OnlyOneCanOweMe)
I went to my local AFCO and asked if I could be a pilot but they were a little hesitant in letting me join because I only have one arm. The other is a prosthetic after I lost it during a fight with a guy in a black dress thingy. I told the officer there I knew all about twin-ion engines and stuff but he wasn't too impressed.

After begging him to let me join he pointed out my other slight handicap - I'm blind in both eyes. Not to be put off, I told him how I can fly using my third inner eye or "the Force" as my dad used to call it. I wonder what happened to my dad, one day he was my hero then he just kind of vanished. He said something about going to get a tattoo in another planet or something.

Anyway, at the AFCO they said that it was out of the question, especially when I asked if I could bring my Yoda along. "Yoyo's are for the school playground" they said.
"NOT Yoyo's" I said.. "YODA"
"No, you can't go yodelling all over the place like it's The Sound Of Music... it would compromise our position if were tactical" they said. I didn't understand.
I waved my hand in front of the officer and said "These are not the answers you are looking for"... but he told me to stop trying to hypnotise hime and sod off.

My question is, if I go in wearing dark glasses, and don't mention my pointy eared friend, and manage to pass all of the physical, mental and metaphysical challenges they put before me... and assuming I pass pilot training without falling for the first girl who comes along with silly hairbun things on the side of her head... will they let me have a large hairy primate as my WSO?

Thanks. :confused: :confused:

I dont see why they wouldnt let you join because of that, they may even fit photon torpeadoes to your aircraft and have an R2-D2 unit as your WSop....you can but hope!

I cant see why any of the above would stop somebody of your status and qualification from joining the RAF, good luck let me know how u get on!

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Actually, I don't know very much about it. Most RAuxAF (Not RAAF; That's the Royal Australian Air Force) units I've encountered tend to be specialists, like medical units.
Cheers, will have to wait till i get home in a few weeks to find out, sent off for some info. Want to get all my options in frount of me.
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(Original post by OnlyOneCanOweMe)
*snip*
No.
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There was a poster advertising for students to join the University air squadron... can someone elaborate what this is and what is involved? looks cool to me.... oh and i'm joining the gliding society there
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No i definetley werent hearing things when i was told at the AFCO that the max height for pilot is 5. 11. I dont know if that means its new or whatever but a girl at the same enquiry as me was rejected, and told she could not ever apply or anything, outright for being too tall. And she werent no giant, claimed she was 5. 10. but would be over 5 11 by the time she was 21. Im fine though cos im 5. 7 :cool: p.s anyone know anything about pilot scholarships, like how many are awarded, is it worth applying if i havnt even joined ATC yet? I was told to apply but would I stand no chance against kids who have been in ATC since 13?
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No i definetley werent hearing things when i was told at the AFCO that the max height for pilot is 5. 11. I dont know if that means its new or whatever but a girl at the same enquiry as me was rejected, and told she could not ever apply or anything, outright for being too tall. And she werent no giant, claimed she was 5. 10. but would be over 5 11 by the time she was 21. Im fine though cos im 5. 7 :cool: p.s anyone know anything about pilot scholarships, like how many are awarded, is it worth applying if i havnt even joined ATC yet? I was told to apply but would I stand no chance against kids who have been in ATC since 13?

Read most of this topic and you'll find stuff about hieght and also the ATC.

don't quote me but i think it says it doesn't matter if you've not been in the ATC and its not so much the overall hieght that matters more the knee to foot, or knee to hip length or something, its all in this thread somewhere.
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There was a poster advertising for students to join the University air squadron... can someone elaborate what this is and what is involved? looks cool to me.... oh and i'm joining the gliding society there

Dazya, thought we'd answered this one for you previously

University Air Squadrons are linked to universities and an airfield all over the country. They're basically for students who are considering (or who are committed to) joining the RAF as pilots, navigators or officers on leaving university. The University of Essex is linked with Cambridge UAS - The web address is [email protected] or [email protected] Tel:01223 356942

Just so you're aware, competition for places is quite fierce and they're looking for people to join the RAF Volunteer Reserve (RAFVR) who are genuinely interested in a career in the RAF. There will also be a number of people in the UAS who have RAF undergraduate bursaries, or cadetships.

You would have to go through medical examination, aptitude testing and interview by your UAS Officer Commanding to get a place, and will be expected to demonstrate officer potential. Also, once you've attested as an officer cadet you're subject to Air Force law and can't behave in a way that would bring the RAF into disrepute.


Once you join you're expected to do around 30 hours flying training a yr (on average), one evening per week ground training, (with a minimum of 40hrs in the first yr, 30 in the 2nd) and 2 weeks continuous training per yr, which is usually a summer camp.

If you're selected for ground training (that's what I'll be applying for) you're offered flying experience instead of flying training.


Hope this helps.
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Just thought i'd check up on how eveyone is getting on with their applications ?? Mine seems lke years ago now!

Job in London is going well...it's tiring and busy but definitely still the right choice.

Hope everyone is ok
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(Original post by icklecathy)
Just thought i'd check up on how eveyone is getting on with their applications ?? Mine seems lke years ago now!

Job in London is going well...it's tiring and busy but definitely still the right choice.

Hope everyone is ok

Waiting for just over the next year to pass before reapplying again. Looks like i will have no excuse for not being 110% prepared.
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Thanks nikki, and yes, it did help. Don't think i'll be joining it somehow.... i'll stick with glider club hehe
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(Original post by icklecathy)
Just thought i'd check up on how eveyone is getting on with their applications ?? Mine seems lke years ago now!

Job in London is going well...it's tiring and busy but definitely still the right choice.

Hope everyone is ok
Hey, well im not ready yet to put the application in yet, still getting a start on the things I need to do, but making the big step of getting fit while at the same time, it's involving working in groups with the added bonus that it also has adventure weekends to go onto as well.
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As regards the height issue, the current maximum is 6'3". When i get home tonight ill post the other mins and maxs but there are 6 or 7 of them... seat to heel etc etc etc. Oh, and theres weight of course!
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(Original post by peegee)
As regards the height issue, the current maximum is 6'3". When i get home tonight ill post the other mins and maxs but there are 6 or 7 of them... seat to heel etc etc etc. Oh, and theres weight of course!
Speaking of weight, there is a table that the AFCO will provide. In short for aircrew you're allowed to be 15% over your ideal weight (groundcrew is 20% over). OASC also categorise you are small,medium or large build (how I don't know) to decide what your maximum weight is (allowing for height). At the AFCO stage they treat everyone as large build.

For the record - and to get people thinking about their weight if needed - 6ft and large build translates to 91.2Kg for flying duties and 95Kg for ground duties. I haven't got the table to hand, but you can reduce these figures by around 6-7Kg to get to medium build. Finally, reduce by around 1.5-2Kg for every inch of height over and under 6ft (1.83m - 5cm is 2 inches).

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I'm going to get my daughter's name down for a scholarship in 2020. She was born last night.
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Congratulations
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Congrats!!
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I'm going to get my daughter's name down for a scholarship in 2020. She was born last night.

Aaaww..well done. Lets hope she wants to join!!
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Aaaww..well done. Lets hope she wants to join!!
She can do whatever she wants, but as long as the skirts are ankle length, and she's home by 9pm at the latest! And I forbid her from dating squaddies! These rules will apply until she's about 30 I think.
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She can do whatever she wants, but as long as the skirts are ankle length, and she's home by 9pm at the latest! And I forbid her from dating squaddies! These rules will apply until she's about 30 I think.

Sounds like my dad..only he insists on long sleeved, high necked jumpers as well!!!
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