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My point was; was it a common cold, or an infection resulting from a bad reaction to a common cold? I've had the cold, I've never been told I have an URTI.
Wzz, Upper Respiratory Tract Infections include common coughs, colds, flu, or other types of infections affecting the upper respiratory tract, such as sinusitis, rhinitis, and so on. Basically it’s a viral infection affecting the larynx, trachea or bronchi. Most URTI's are associated with cough, runny nose, sneezing.

I think the difference between this and someone who has an ‘asthma’ related condition is the affect of the symptoms on the individual and the inflammation of the airways. People with asthma are likely to have additional symptoms such as wheezing/ shortness of breath, often requiring medication to relieve them. Whilst all URTI’s have associated inflammations, the asthma sufferer will have a persistent inflammation, even when no other symptoms are present.. They’re also more likely to have an ongoing history of URTI’s (including regular coughs and colds/throat infections etc).

In view of this, I don't think it's looking to good for those who have had symptoms of wheezing, or have used inhalers.
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Bad news, Bad news, Bad news!!! I 'lacerated my cornea' trying to get an eyelash out of my eye! Mr A&E doctor happens to think that it shud be ok in a few days, no permanent damage etc etc etc. Anyone beg to differ? Id like to be let down now rather than in the doc's office in January!

A laceration is only a jagged cut. What really matters is the scar tissue it leaves as it heals; and whether this will affect your vision. That'll depend on how deep the cut was really. If your doc says it's nothing I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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We going to arange for a group chat at some point?
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Hey some of you guys will remember me [email protected]. Just some general chat, sent off my app. for uni bursary yday, i've also got a little extra info for all going for selection part 2 (uni) from the sixth form scholar's course over summer. One thing is that the 'excellent' fitness rating is now 12.7 for guys, for girls its something around 10.7 but remember that whatever score you get, and whatever sex you happen to be, you will all have to undergo the same fitness training / testing at IOT. They're looking for potential and ability to 'survive' IOT, to be honest I'm a fat lump, but can manage 13.0 at a try so it really isn't anything to worry about. Hmm if any of you are interested I can type up all my notes from that course and email them to you directly, I'm at [email protected], of course improving your chances will reduce mine, but hey I'm just a nice guy at heart
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Catch up with who, exactly? You want to stay as a junior officer as long as possible. Why would you want to be a 28 year old Wg Cdr; who're you going to socialise with?
I was referring to your previous post when you said

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Your rank stays low to reflect your inexperience both in the job and as an officer,
I suppose I didn't know what you meant when you said your rank stays low. I was asking if I would catch up with others who had left uni two years before me and been promoted.

The idea of being a 28 yr old Group Captain's isn't such a bad one. I don't think there's a rule that says you can't socialise with similar age Flight Lieutenants At least not a written one!

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Well thats me in a bad mood for a while. Just found out that im not qualified enough to be an officer!
all due to the matter of a Maths standard grade being one level below and it seems the module not being recognised or not good enough.
So She suggests doing intermediete 2 maths at college or join as an airman.
I'll be contacting my old college later on anyway.

Aaww...and you've been working so hard for it. You could go to evening class and get the grade you need for maths. I know it'd be hard, but some things are worth it, and it'd just make you look even more determined.

Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Wzz My point was; was it a common cold, or an infection resulting from a bad reaction to a common cold? I've had the cold, I've never been told I have an URTI.[/QUOTE]

I think it was an infection!



[QUOTE=You're losing me a bit there. If you have a cold, you have blocked eustachian tubes or blocked sinuses normally. As these try to maintain pressure with the outside world normally, if they're blocked you end up with pressure issues. It manifests itself as an awkward, slightly stingy popping on pressure decrease, and a horrible, agonising stabbing pain and deafness (in the case of the eustachian tubes) on pressure increase.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that is exactly what i thought would be the more sensible or likely answer to my condition, but i got something else ! !




[QUOTE=By the looks of things it's upper respiratory tract issues that are keeping you away; regardless of whether they're caused by colds or not. The docs at Cranwell deal with so many people complaining because they think there's a loophole here, or a mistake in their records there; remember that if they say no, generally there's a very good reason.[/QUOTE]

and i understand your views there. From what i can gather the URTI is basically the definition or medical term for a common cold. (that is as far as im aware dont quote me on that)
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I suppose I didn't know what you meant when you said your rank stays low. I was asking if I would catch up with others who had left uni two years before me and been promoted.
Oh god yes. At the worse you'll be a Flt Lt with 2 years less seniority that "the other who left uni two years before" - who will also (well, probably!) be Flt Lt's. Promotion to Flt Lt is guaranteed (there are no doubt exceptions) - the time it takes depends on a number of factors, ranging from 4-5 years(?) to 18 months. Promotion from there is purely on selection, so being two years behind is not a handicap.

The Medical Branch is totally different - made a guestimate posting as to the timescale for promotion earlier in this thread (2-3 days ago?). Can't recall ever meeting a 35 year old Wing Commander doctor before, but there's a first time for everything!!
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Hey some of you guys will remember me [email protected]. Just some general chat, sent off my app. for uni bursary yday, i've also got a little extra info for all going for selection part 2 (uni) from the sixth form scholar's course over summer. One thing is that the 'excellent' fitness rating is now 12.7 for guys, for girls its something around 10.7 but remember that whatever score you get, and whatever sex you happen to be, you will all have to undergo the same fitness training / testing at IOT. They're looking for potential and ability to 'survive' IOT, to be honest I'm a fat lump, but can manage 13.0 at a try so it really isn't anything to worry about. Hmm if any of you are interested I can type up all my notes from that course and email them to you directly, I'm at [email protected], of course improving your chances will reduce mine, but hey I'm just a nice guy at heart
Don't forget the weight limit! Don't know how it applies for sixth form scholorship's but there is a maxmium weight limit for both air and ground branches.

As for the fitness test, is it also dependant on age? In other words, whilst you young whippersnappers might have to hit level 12, i'm hoping that, as one of the "old and bold" folk coming up from the ranks, I'm looking for a more sedate level to reach on the fitness test!!

Over to you Wzz...
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and i understand your views there. From what i can gather the URTI is basically the definition or medical term for a common cold. (that is as far as im aware dont quote me on that)

Steve, read my post a bit further up the page. Any viral infection affecting the trachea, larynx or bronchi are classed as URTI's;this includes the common cold.

However, the difference between people suffering from a URTI and those who have related conditions that are triggered by a URTI, is the crux of the issue. People who have an every day, run-of-the-mill URTI don't have symptoms of wheezing and shortness of breath that requires airway enhancing medication e.g an inhaler. The presence of these symptoms would indicate that the person has an asthma type/related disease, which has been triggered by a general URTI.

Unfortunately, this doesn't sound like it's good news for you!!
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I was just a bit concerned when reading that you had a couple of wheezing episodes as a child. Unfortunately, this may alter the way your URTI’s are viewed, particularly in relation to the asthma family of URTI’s. Asthma can’t be ‘caught’ it’s a disease that anyone can ‘develop’ and is caused by inflammation of the airways that carry air in and out of the lungs. To acquire asthma, people are born with a predisposition to the disease, and the inflammation would not be present in someone who does not have asthma or related conditions. Symptoms can include coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath, or the production of mucus. It’s most common in children up to the age of 5, and in adults in their 30s.
I have been told by my doctor that what i experienced was not Asthma!

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In relation to the wheezing, there are two general patterns in children: nonallergic and allergic. The nonallegenic type gets better as the child gets older because their airways get larger, and half the children who get this type of condition grow out of it. However, it can also go into remission for years, and can often return in later in life. People affected by these diseases are often sensitive to certain conditions and environments, which can trigger URTI infections such as colds, flu, sore throats, and sinus infections. In terms of medication, there are two categories that cover long term and quick relief medicines. From what you’ve said, you received a ‘quick relief’ type of medication to treat acute symptoms. A couple of questions you might be asked to determine whether you ever had asthma, or a related illness, are

Have you had a sudden severe episode or recurrent episodes of coughing, wheezing, or shortness of breath?

Have you ever used any medications that help you breathe better?.
i understand that perspective, but i didnt have asthma. As far as i am aware, what i experienced was just a bad chest in relation to picking up a cold, which gave me problems with breathing when im on my back at night, which im sure is the case in 90% of a bad chest or cough. This was not wheeze nor asthma, but more so "wheeze" caused by it, in that i was struggling to breath because of the infection not because my body has reacted to something like asthma. As Wzz says, yes getting URTI is a reaction, im finding it hard to explian, but its more of a contagious state rather than something that i have been born with for example.



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I don’t know if you have a history of URTI’s (including what would be perceived as the common cold/sore throats), but if you have it’s not looking good in terms of a flying career. You really do need to get a specialist opinion, or as Wzz suggested, look at alternative ground branches.
I do not have a history only that people will get year to year, in respect that the average person gets something like 3 - 4 colds a year. So its never gone onto medical records as there has not been a neccesity for it, just the usual get better procedure of resting and drinking some lemsip. That was a one off if you like, i have never suffered from anything since, i have been swimming, footballing you name it and i have never ever suffered from a wheeze or out of breathness (only if im so knackered). I know thats my word and i could be making that up but it is the truth. Im not a medical person, but im just hoping that ican prove this was a one off, caught it bad, unlucky, but not going to likely come round again
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(Original post by Nikki J S)
Steve, read my post a bit further up the page. Any viral infection affecting the trachea, larynx or bronchi are classed as URTI's;this includes the common cold.

However, the difference between people suffering from a URTI and those who have related conditions that are triggered by a URTI, is the crux of the issue. People who have an every day, run-of-the-mill URTI don't have symptoms of wheezing and shortness of breath that requires airway enhancing medication e.g an inhaler. The presence of these symptoms would indicate that the person has an asthma type/related disease, which has been triggered by a general URTI.

Unfortunately, this doesn't sound like it's good news for you!!
I have never suffered since. It just a case that ive either sat next to someone with a cold or whateva, sneezed or coughed in my face, ive then contracted it as well, or a case that it was snowing outside and in the excitement i have gone out without my scarf on a caught a cold. I have come off a bit hard because im struggling to breathe because of the amount of crap thats on my chest. Ive read that doctors prescribed some children with an inhaler to try and ease it up a bit. The chest has then cleared, and ive been breathing fine ever since and never have suffered from it or anything that even resembles it.
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have been told by my doctor that what i experienced was not Asthma!

As far as i am aware, what i experienced was just a bad chest in relation to picking up a cold, which gave me problems with breathing when im on my back at night, which im sure is the case in 90% of a bad chest or cough. This was not wheeze nor asthma, but more so "wheeze" caused by it, in that i was struggling to breath because of the infection not because my body has reacted to something like asthma. As Wzz says, yes getting URTI is a reaction, im finding it hard to explian, but its more of a contagious state rather than something that i have been born with for example.
That's my point really. It doesn't have to be asthma;just a condition that is triggered by any kind of URTI. The wheezing and difficulty in breathing would be symptoms above and beyond a general URTI, suggesting you have some underlying condition that is affected by them.

It may never affect you again, but i think the fact that you had it even once may well preclude you from flying. Don't take my word for it however, because I'm not a doctor. That's just my opinion having done a bit of reading around it. I hope I'm wrong

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That's my point really. It doesn't have to be asthma;just a condition that is triggered by any kind of URTI. The wheezing and difficulty in breathing would be symptoms above and beyond a general URTI, suggesting you have some underlying condition that is affected by them.

It may never affect you again, but i think the fact that you had it even once may well preclude you from flying. Don't take my word for it however, because I'm not a doctor. That's just my opinion having done a bit of reading around it. I hope I'm wrong

so do i
but thanks for the research and to everyone else as well. Alot of help thanx
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Don't forget the weight limit! Don't know how it applies for sixth form scholorship's but there is a maxmium weight limit for both air and ground branches.

As for the fitness test, is it also dependant on age? In other words, whilst you young whippersnappers might have to hit level 12, i'm hoping that, as one of the "old and bold" folk coming up from the ranks, I'm looking for a more sedate level to reach on the fitness test!!

Over to you Wzz...
Well I'm up to 92 kilos now but I suppose being 6'3" balances it out, the weight limit is 106kilos? and I was 1cm off being to tall, lets hope I haven't grown since... And yup thats for 17-24 year olds, as long as you don't fail you'll be find, to get through OASC you need at least 1point from each stage (out of 4) except interview where you need 2...
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Aaww...and you've been working so hard for it. You could go to evening class and get the grade you need for maths. I know it'd be hard, but some things are worth it, and it'd just make you look even more determined.

Good luck.
Yeah, your right, that is the aim, to do some night classes, I could even do it full time as my times spare during the week.
Im mostly frustrated to be honest, having done 4 years obtaining my degree. But if needs must I will do the maths course. As you say it will show that im pretty determined and shows I have goals.
Can also be seen as a blessing in disguise as it will give me more time on improve on fitness, sporting pursuits and current affairs.
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Cos last time you said that some people MAY be rejected if they have ever used an inhaler, but now is it official that if you have ever used an inhaler you are rejected straight out?
I don't work in recruiting anymore; and as I've always said, I'm not a doctor; so don't ask me to quote medical policy! My point is that there are lots of reasons you might fail someone. I know of someone prescribed an inhaler to increase athletic performance; and they were chopped. Basically, inhaler use is indicative of you needing it; and that's a bad thing. Doesn't matter if you were prescribed it because you needed it to sleep, to help you with a bad cold, whatever; if you've been given one, expect to be disappointed at selection. Again, I'm not a doctor, so some may get through; but BE PREPARED TO BE REJECTED!

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As I am starting to have a look at some other options does the Royal Navy require you to have been asthma / wheeze/ upper tract problem free for its officer services other than aircrew?
No, neither does the RAF; it's only aircrew. What the Navy don't like is people applying because they've been rejected by the RAF and assume the Navy is the next best bet.
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Yeah, your right, that is the aim, to do some night classes, I could even do it full time as my times spare during the week.
Im mostly frustrated to be honest, having done 4 years obtaining my degree. But if needs must I will do the maths course. As you say it will show that im pretty determined and shows I have goals.
Can also be seen as a blessing in disguise as it will give me more time on improve on fitness, sporting pursuits and current affairs.

Couldn't you just do certain modules to make up for ones you didn't pass, or doesn't it work like that?
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Just wanted to say good luck to REME and others who are going to OASC next week;not long to go now!! Hopefully they'll take pity on you and make sure you know the results before xmas.
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Just wanted to say good luck to REME and others who are going to OASC next week;not long to go now!! Hopefully they'll take pity on you and make sure you know the results before xmas.
does anyone know when the UAS get their results? 2 days and counting...
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