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    [q1]> I sat another exam with someone who was doing Russian listening (funnily, she WAS Russian, so why[/q1]
    [q1]> was she sitting an exam in Russian as a foreign language???)[/q1]

    To get an extra qualification and a top grade thrown in.

    It would still not be that easy for her as she would find the translation into English difficult and
    she would probably have to write literature essays in English.

    --
    MESSAGE ENDS. John Porcella

    On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:49:36 +0100s, martina([email protected]) said...
    [q1]>I think that panicky examinees aren't such an exception. A friend of mine did Spanish A-level a few[/q1]
    [q1]>years back and she said that in the middle of the exam, this woman (sitting Art History) started[/q1]
    [q1]>shouting 'This question is completely ridiculous, we haven't covered any of it!!! Ridiculous!!!'[/q1]
    [q1]>and, as they couldn't pacify her, the invigilator had to expel her from the exam room.[/q1]

    Someone fainted in one of our chemistry exams, we all just heard this thunk, then lots of
    invigilators going to see if she was alright. Though it was a quantum mechanics exam, so perfectly
    understandable...

    [q1]> It's so selfish and nasty of the people who do it though. I can appreciate that the exams can be a[/q1]
    [q1]> strain, the exam session is just interminable (I've been sitting exams since May 20), but it[/q1]
    [q1]> doesn't give anyone the right to disturb several other people who have university offers to meet![/q1]

    You think yours are stressful? You just wait until 2 or 3 years time, then you'll see what uni exams
    are like The worst lot of exams IME are the ones after you stop being able to coast through with
    very little work, and actually have to work hard at understandiong something, and revise properly.

    [q1]>I was lucky because my uni place doesn't depend on the result of this exam (which isn't to say that[/q1]
    [q1]>I don't feel very upset about what happened yesterday), but the other person who was sitting the[/q1]
    [q1]>paper with me won't meet her Cambridge offer if she didn't do well in this paper!!! (I told her to[/q1]
    [q1]>ask the college to talk to New Hall to take this into consideration if she misses an A just[/q1]
    [q1]>marginally). The language girl did get quieter (and embarrassed) as the exam progressed but for me[/q1]
    [q1]>at least, having practically lost 15 minutes of a 90-minute paper was very stressful, and the whole[/q1]
    [q1]>paper just went haywire (especially because I was very tired and needed peace and quiet to do[/q1]
    [q1]>well). Apart from this incident, someone needed to go to the bathroom (so the invigilator had to[/q1]
    [q1]>call the office for someone to come and escort the guy to and from the toilet) and another person[/q1]
    [q1]>demanded a drink, so they had to bring her some water.[/q1]

    Doesn't that happen quite often anyway? Did for ours, and it's no more disturbing than the
    invigilators wandering round anyway.

    [q1]>During my M2, the psychology person behind me was sniffling incessantly (a sniff every 5 seconds) ,[/q1]
    [q1]>yawning, dropping things, kicking against the desk and so on. I had to call the invigilator to ask[/q1]
    [q1]>her to offer him my pack of paper hankies, but he didn't stop sniffing for long. I think he was[/q1]
    [q1]>very nervous because he kept opening the paper and closing it, and when I was leaving (his paper[/q1]
    [q1]>was longer in duration than mine) he wasn't writing anything, just fidgeting and sniffling.[/q1]
    [q1]>Prisoners in solitary confinement used to be tortured by the sound of dripping water and this[/q1]
    [q1]>sniffing was just as bad (if, mercifully, not as long).[/q1]

    I think I've been guilty of sniffling in exams once or wtice... it always seems much worse when I'm
    really nervous, and it's very difficult to stop myself doing it. Especially when trying to do an
    exam at the same time...

    [q1]> And another person was sleeping on his paper during that psychology exam. Sniffing seemed to be[/q1]
    [q1]> the favourite exam pastime of the guy sitting a Latin paper as I was doing my Chemistry synoptic.[/q1]
    [q1]> He wrote about 3 lines of translation (as I noticed when I was leaving), then put down his pen,[/q1]
    [q1]> and began staring out of the window... and sniffled. I got 120/120 though. Anyway, I only have[/q1]
    [q1]> my AEA on Thursday, it's a lovely day and I'm heading for some retail therapy to Heffers soon, so[/q1]
    [q1]> those are definitely reasons to be cheerful. ))[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> M.[/q1]

    Mmm, heffers. Can't afford to buy more books, spent far too much on them since exams finished anyway
    [q1] Go to borders instead, much better for fiction. Very bad for the bank balance tho... And of[/q1]
    course there's Galloway & Porters, Oxfam books, and the market.

    But I'll be walking past heffers in about 3 hours, and the next time after that will be in
    October <waah>

    Packing is evil, and solitaire is *so* much more fun... Been up for almost 2 hours now, and
    haven't packed a single thing. Oops.

    chris

    [q1]> During my M2, the psychology person behind me was sniffling incessantly[/q1]

    When I took my ACCA finals I had someone besides me who coughed continuously for the entire three
    hour exam! I smiled at the time because I had not prepared for my paper and took the view that there
    was no point complaining because I was going to fail anyway. I was very surprised when I found out
    that I had passed.

    --
    MESSAGE ENDS. John Porcella

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    [q1]> "martina" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> > The thing is the exam only lasts as long as the tape so the girl yesterday wasn't doing[/q2]
    herself
    [q2]> > any favours by rewinding the cassette for the first 15 minutes.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> In my experience, in an A-level exam the tape's duration is probably only[/q1]
    [q1]> 1/3 that of the exam's.[/q1]

    really? I didn't know that. The Russian girl didn't rewind at all when she sat her Russian exam (she
    probably didn't need to Anyway this girl yesterday was rewinding for 15 minutes (starting anew
    every 10 seconds) so I wonder if she actually heard any of the listening exercises at all. She spent
    all the time clicking the stupid buttons! When I sat English as a Foreign Language exams, the
    invigilator put the tape in the tape recorder (for the whole room - sometimes dozens and dozens of
    people) and that was it, no rewinding, the exercises were repeated if necessary (i.e. they were
    recorded twice on the tape). The most amusing listening exercise I did in an exam was the last
    question in IELTS last year. It was about, of all things, Oxbridge. I filled in half of the blanks
    before I even got the chance to listen to the tape. (things like: Oxford and Cambridge are
    collectively known as ...........; some stuff about supervisions and lectures and public schools). I
    nearly LOLled when I saw the questions.

    M.

    "John Porcella" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    [q2]> > I sat another exam with someone who was doing Russian listening[/q2]
    (funnily,
    [q2]> > she WAS Russian, so why was she sitting an exam in Russian as a foreign language???)[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> To get an extra qualification and a top grade thrown in.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> It would still not be that easy for her as she would find the translation into English difficult[/q1]
    [q1]> and she would probably have to write literature essays in English.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    So if you sit a foreign language A-level, you have to write about literature in English?!?!?!

    Do they translate in A-levels? <appalled> I only did English as a Foreign Language exams, and we
    never translated anything. I think it's much better not to mix languages. If you're using English,
    think in English, if you're using German, think in German. I've always been very bad at translation.
    I might understand a text in English perfectly, but when somebody asks me to translate it into
    Slovak/Czech (my mother tongues) I absolutely can't do it. Mind you, I think it makes me much more
    fluent in English, having separate 'compartments' in my brain for different languages. Translation
    is very bad for you when you're trying to learn a foreign language.

    M.

    John Porcella ([email protected]) wrote:

    [q2]> > I sat another exam with someone who was doing Russian listening (funnily, she WAS Russian, so[/q2]
    [q2]> > why was she sitting an exam in Russian as a foreign language???)[/q2]

    [q1]> To get an extra qualification and a top grade thrown in.[/q1]

    [q1]> It would still not be that easy for her as she would find the translation into English difficult[/q1]
    [q1]> and she would probably have to write literature essays in English.[/q1]

    My experience is that many people can get a grade A A-level in their mother tongue or a language
    they are bilingual in without showing any ability in anything else. Therefore, I do not regard such
    a qualification as of any use for admissions purposes, and pay no attention whatsoever to it. I
    quite often get people who argue "but I've got 18 points", which turns out to be A in their mother
    tongue A-level, plus DEE in three other A-levels. I treat that as 8 points.

    Matthew Huntbach

    [q1]> Someone fainted in one of our chemistry exams, we all just heard this thunk, then lots of[/q1]
    [q1]> invigilators going to see if she was alright. Though it was a quantum mechanics exam, so perfectly[/q1]
    [q1]> understandable...[/q1]

    actually someone fainted before one of my A-level Chemistry module papers. She came to though. A
    friend (just finished English at Trinity) said one of his friends spent the first hour of a 3-hour
    exam shuttling between the bathroom and the exam room (she was predicted a straight 1st, got a 3rd).
    He claimed this is the most difficult undergrad paper in the UK (the Cambridge English Tripos
    'Tragedy Paper').

    [q1]> You think yours are stressful? You just wait until 2 or 3 years time, then you'll see what uni[/q1]
    [q1]> exams are like [/q1]

    Well, I don't stress much for my exams. I was pretty calm for most of them, because I felt I was
    quite well prepared. I'm dreading university exams though.

    [q1]> The worst lot of exams IME are the ones after you stop being able to coast through with very[/q1]
    [q1]> little work, and actually have to work hard at understandiong something, and revise properly.[/q1]

    I think I've been just exhausted by the effort to do too much. I'm (sadly) a perfectionist, so I'm
    (stupidly) always aiming for full marks.

    [q1]> Doesn't that happen quite often anyway? Did for ours, and it's no more disturbing than the[/q1]
    [q1]> invigilators wandering round anyway.[/q1]

    yes, but combined with the girl's nervousness the exam ended up quite noisy and fragmented
    because there was always something going on.Our invigilators don't wander - the exam room is too
    small for it.

    [q1]> I think I've been guilty of sniffling in exams once or wtice... it always seems much worse when[/q1]
    [q1]> I'm really nervous, and it's very difficult to stop myself doing it. Especially when trying to do[/q1]
    [q1]> an exam at the same time...[/q1]

    really? I don't have the tendency to sniffle. When I'm nervous, I work frantically, and turn crimson
    with the effort, prompting concerned questions from people after the exam/test.

    [q1]> Mmm, heffers. Can't afford to buy more books, spent far too much on them since exams finished[/q1]
    [q1]> anyway [/q1]

    So what did you buy?

    [q1]> Go to borders instead, much better for fiction.[/q1]

    I was going to buy Feynman's Lectures on Physics. I'm pathetic I know. There's a good
    second-hand bookshop on Mill Road (Browne's), nice for fiction, or buying things you never really
    meant to buy.

    Very bad for the bank
    [q1]> balance tho...[/q1]

    yes, I've psychologically prepared my parents for the fact that credit card record is going to have
    a nice fat £100 in it tomorrow - for Physics (mum works at a bank, so she sees my credit card
    records all the time). But hey, I didn't buy anything for half a year (apart from revision guides).

    [q1]> But I'll be walking past heffers in about 3 hours, and the next time after that will be in[/q1]
    [q1]> October <waah>[/q1]

    LOL maybe I'll bump into you then. I'm still in a French place near the Grafton Centre (the only
    place where they have Outlook, so I can subscribe to AUA). Quo vadis? Train station?

    [q1]> Packing is evil, and solitaire is *so* much more fun... Been up for almost 2 hours now, and[/q1]
    [q1]> haven't packed a single thing. Oops.[/q1]

    have fun. I'm in a perpetual state of packing or unpacking too.

    M.

    [q1]> When I took my ACCA finals I had someone besides me who coughed[/q1]
    continuously
    [q1]> for the entire three hour exam! I smiled at the time because I had not prepared for my paper and[/q1]
    [q1]> took the view that there was no point[/q1]
    complaining
    [q1]> because I was going to fail anyway. I was very surprised when I found out that I had passed.[/q1]

    I never complained to the invigilator but I was finding it a bit hard to concentrate. I study at
    home, so I have as much silence as I choose during my studies. What a spoilt kid I am.

    M.

    On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 12:02:39 +0100s, martina([email protected]) said...
    [q1]>actually someone fainted before one of my A-level Chemistry module papers. She came to though. A[/q1]
    [q1]>friend (just finished English at Trinity) said one of his friends spent the first hour of a 3-hour[/q1]
    [q1]>exam shuttling between the bathroom and the exam room (she was predicted a straight 1st, got a[/q1]
    [q1]>3rd). He claimed this is the most difficult undergrad paper in the UK (the Cambridge English Tripos[/q1]
    [q1]>'Tragedy Paper').[/q1]

    I've done 1B maths, which is supposedly the worst in the whole Natsci tripos... I'd hate to think
    what worse than that would be.

    [q1]>Well, I don't stress much for my exams. I was pretty calm for most of them, because I felt I was[/q1]
    [q1]>quite well prepared. I'm dreading university exams though.[/q1]

    Grr, I hate you. The only recent exam I can remember not panicking about was a-level physics
    practical - cos I was too busy worrying about STEP the day after...

    [q1]>I think I've been just exhausted by the effort to do too much. I'm (sadly) a perfectionist, so I'm[/q1]
    [q1]>(stupidly) always aiming for full marks.[/q1]

    Better that than a lazy slob (i.e. me)...

    [q2]>> Mmm, heffers. Can't afford to buy more books, spent far too much on them since exams finished[/q2]
    [q2]>> anyway [/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>So what did you buy?[/q1]

    Lots Bought about 20 in toto this term, though not all new.

    [q2]>> Go to borders instead, much better for fiction.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>I was going to buy Feynman's Lectures on Physics. I'm pathetic I know. [/q1]

    Nah, just an A-level student. Got the 6 easy pieces/6 not so easy pieces set at home, they're
    pretty good.

    [q1]>There's a good second-hand bookshop on Mill Road (Browne's), nice for fiction, or buying things you[/q1]
    [q1]>never really meant to buy. [/q1]

    Ooh, one I don't know about... isn't Mill Road miles out though?

    [q2]>> But I'll be walking past heffers in about 3 hours, and the next time after that will be in[/q2]
    [q2]>> October <waah>[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>LOL maybe I'll bump into you then.[/q1]

    Not likely, I'm sitting here wondering how the hell I can pack all this mess in the 90mins till my
    parents get here. Eek. So naturally I'm reading aua, and playing solitaire

    [q1]>I'm still in a French place near the Grafton Centre (the only place where they have Outlook, so I[/q1]
    [q1]>can subscribe to AUA).[/q1]

    The only place stupid enough to allow OE... the PWF won't let you access OE because of all the
    security holes.

    [q1]>Quo vadis? Train station?[/q1]

    Nope, it'll be to college to sign out and hand my key in I couldn't go home on the train - far
    too much stuff. The two big monitors this time round isn't helping matters much...

    [q1]>have fun. I'm in a perpetual state of packing or unpacking too.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>M.[/q1]

    Lol... I was really good this term, only took me a week to finish unpacking. Tho last term my
    suitcase was still half packed at the end of term...

    chris

    [q2]> >Well, I don't stress much for my exams. I was pretty calm for most of[/q2]
    them,
    [q2]> >because I felt I was quite well prepared. I'm dreading university exams though.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Grr, I hate you.[/q1]

    <cries inconsolably>

    The only recent exam I can remember not panicking
    [q1]> about was a-level physics practical - cos I was too busy worrying about STEP the day after...[/q1]

    well, I had to keep my nerves under control. Remember, I did 3 of my A-levels before I applied to
    uni, so I thought I could always resit if I didn't do as well as I wanted. And I don't need the
    Further Maths I'm doing, so there hasn't been much reason to panic excessively, which wouldn't do me
    much good anyway.

    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> >I think I've been just exhausted by the effort to do too much. I'm[/q2]
    (sadly) a
    [q2]> >perfectionist, so I'm (stupidly) always aiming for full marks.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Better that than a lazy slob (i.e. me)...[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    LOL, it's very typical of workaholics to say they're doing too little.

    [q1]> Nah, just an A-level student.[/q1]

    LOL

    Got the 6 easy pieces/6 not so easy
    [q1]> pieces set at home, they're pretty good.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    ta. I might get the full lecture set, might be handy if I take Physics (I must go over my Physics
    now, I took it last year, don't remember much).

    [q2]> >There's a good second-hand bookshop on Mill Road (Browne's), nice for fiction, or buying things[/q2]
    [q2]> >you never really meant to buy. [/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Ooh, one I don't know about... isn't Mill Road miles out though?[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    well, it's in the section of Mill Road between the swimming pool and the bridge over the railway
    lines (or whatever they're called) (near a kebab shop iirc).

    [q2]> >> But I'll be walking past heffers in about 3 hours, and the next time after that will be in[/q2]
    [q2]> >> October <waah>[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> >LOL maybe I'll bump into you then.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Not likely, I'm sitting here wondering how the hell I can pack all this mess in the 90mins till my[/q1]
    [q1]> parents get here. Eek. So naturally I'm reading aua, and playing solitaire [/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    LOL sounds very much like me.

    [q2]> >I'm still in a French place near the Grafton Centre (the only place where they have Outlook,[/q2]
    [q2]> >so I can[/q2]
    subscribe
    [q2]> >to AUA).[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> The only place stupid enough to allow OE... the PWF won't let you access OE because of all the[/q1]
    [q1]> security holes.[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    PWF??? posting through google is terrible cos the messages only appear after a few hours, so I can't
    see the most recent ones.

    [q2]> >Quo vadis? Train station?[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Nope, it'll be to college to sign out and hand my key in I couldn't go home on the train - far[/q1]
    [q1]> too much stuff. The two big monitors this time round isn't helping matters much...[/q1]

    well, I'm just beginning to wonder what I'll do in the autumn! I think I'll have to ask a friend to
    come and pick me up from the airport with a car, it's going to be a nightmare.

    [q2]> >have fun. I'm in a perpetual state of packing or unpacking too.[/q2]
    [q2]> >[/q2]
    [q2]> >M.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Lol... I was really good this term, only took me a week to finish unpacking. Tho last term my[/q1]
    [q1]> suitcase was still half packed at the end of term...[/q1]

    no point in unpacking. I only spend a few weeks in my various locations these days, I have more
    interesting things to do than to move my possessions from cupboard to suitcase!

    Anyway, enjoy the summer! What are you up to?

    M.

    On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 12:56:54 +0100s, martina([email protected]) said...
    [q2]>> Grr, I hate you.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]><cries inconsolably>[/q1]

    Mwa ha ha.

    [q1]>well, I had to keep my nerves under control. Remember, I did 3 of my A-levels before I applied to[/q1]
    [q1]>uni, so I thought I could always resit if I didn't do as well as I wanted. And I don't need the[/q1]
    [q1]>Further Maths I'm doing, so there hasn't been much reason to panic excessively, which wouldn't do[/q1]
    [q1]>me much good anyway.[/q1]

    You're applying logic. This is a bad thing...

    [q2]>> >I think I've been just exhausted by the effort to do too much. I'm[/q2]
    [q1]>(sadly) a[/q1]
    [q2]>> >perfectionist, so I'm (stupidly) always aiming for full marks.[/q2]
    [q2]>>[/q2]
    [q2]>> Better that than a lazy slob (i.e. me)...[/q2]
    [q2]>>[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>LOL, it's very typical of workaholics to say they're doing too little. [/q1]

    Yes, but also of realistic non-workaholics. Why did I just read that as relativistic? Hmm.

    [q1]>ta. I might get the full lecture set, might be handy if I take Physics (I must go over my Physics[/q1]
    [q1]>now, I took it last year, don't remember much).[/q1]

    Definitely a good idea - I found I'd forgotten half of the a-lev stuff when I got here.

    [q2]>> The only place stupid enough to allow OE... the PWF won't let you access OE because of all the[/q2]
    [q2]>> security holes.[/q2]
    [q2]>>[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>PWF???[/q1]

    Public Workstation Facility - computers anyone in the uni can use.

    [q1]> posting through google is terrible cos the messages only appear after a few hours, so I can't see[/q1]
    [q1]> the most recent ones.[/q1]

    Troo, troo.

    [q1]>well, I'm just beginning to wonder what I'll do in the autumn! I think I'll have to ask a friend to[/q1]
    [q1]>come and pick me up from the airport with a car, it's going to be a nightmare.[/q1]

    Yeah... it is doable to get everything into a small space, but not easy at all. And that means no
    big computer, books etc.

    [q1]>no point in unpacking. I only spend a few weeks in my various locations these days, I have more[/q1]
    [q1]>interesting things to do than to move my possessions from cupboard to suitcase![/q1]

    Hehe. I tend to do it just to annoy mum

    [q1]>Anyway, enjoy the summer! What are you up to?[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>M.[/q1]

    Not much at the moment... plans are to figure something out when I get back there.

    chris

    [q1]> So if you sit a foreign language A-level, you have to write about[/q1]
    literature
    [q1]> in English?!?!?![/q1]

    Of course! The exams may be about a foreign language, but ultimately, they are sat by
    English people.

    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Do they translate in A-levels?[/q1]

    I should hope so!

    <appalled> I only did English as a Foreign
    [q1]> Language exams, and we never translated anything.[/q1]

    Think about it, they would have to have papers for every language known otherwise!

    I think it's much better
    [q1]> not to mix languages. If you're using English, think in English, if you're using German, think[/q1]
    [q1]> in German.[/q1]

    Mais oui.

    --
    MESSAGE ENDS. John Porcella

    "John Porcella" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q2]> > So if you sit a foreign language A-level, you have to write about[/q2]
    [q1]> literature[/q1]
    [q2]> > in English?!?!?![/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> Of course! The exams may be about a foreign language, but ultimately,[/q1]
    they
    [q1]> are sat by English people.[/q1]

    When I sat my A-level French literature paper three years ago, our essays had to be written in
    French. The marks were weighted so that far more emphasis was put on the content than on use of the
    target language, but it was still taken into consideration. A quick check on the Edexcel
    specification confirms that this is still how they assess that module.

    When I got to university, however, all our literature responses were written in English...

    Becky

    "martina" <[email protected]> wrote:
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]> At my exam centre, there's a phone in the exam room, so the invigilator[/q1]
    can
    [q1]> call the office if necessary.[/q1]

    We don't have fancy technology like that :-)....

    Anyway I just happened to be talking to a teacher today who happened to bring the conversation round
    to this very topic. They said that there was an absolute minimum of 2 invigilators when there's one
    candidate - so that the invigilator doesn't give the candidate any answers! They seemed very adament
    on that point - so perhaps that's why we always have 2 invigilators (as opposed to one plus a
    younger student as runner)

    [q1]> I've really enjoyed my Maths and FM too, but I think I underestimated the amount of time I needed[/q1]
    [q1]> for two A-levels (practically ending up with only half a year to do the stuff), which made things[/q1]
    [q1]> a bit more stressful.[/q1]
    I did FM in one year (the second year) and looking back I don't know how I survived (8:30-6 M-Th,
    8:30-4 F) [And before anyone says that's not much longer than office hours - you don't get homework
    from offices and also its more tiring learning new stuff than using things you already know :-) ] I
    reckon I'd do it again though - all good fun and the FM is so much more interesting.

    [q1]> Chemistry's great, enjoy it So what are you doing during your semi-short-hemi-long break?[/q1]
    Its not that chemistry's not great - its just that its the subject that I'm most likely not to do as
    well in as I want. Semi-short-hemi-long seems quite an accurate description.. I've got a few days in
    school for various events eg charity days i've got roped into etc, I'm going camping for a few days
    and I'm also off on an exchange to Japan ... not to mention having a look over the uni reading
    lists. Never a dull moment round here.

    [q1]> Going to Prague on Friday (very early in the morning, aghhhhhhhhhhh), then leaving again on Sunday[/q1]
    [q1]> (going to Madeira for a week).[/q1]
    enjoy your holiday.. now everything's over. If I dare ask, what did you think of the AEA?

    Peter

    [q2]> > I've really enjoyed my Maths and FM too, but I think I underestimated[/q2]
    the
    [q2]> > amount of time I needed for two A-levels (practically ending up with[/q2]
    only
    [q2]> > half a year to do the stuff), which made things a bit more stressful.[/q2]
    [q1]> I did FM in one year (the second year) and looking back I don't know how I survived (8:30-6 M-Th,[/q1]
    [q1]> 8:30-4 F)[/q1]

    Do you mean you had tuition for that length of time, or you had some lessons and filled in the free
    periods with extra work?

    --
    MESSAGE ENDS. John Porcella

    [q1]> Do you mean you had tuition for that length of time, or you had some[/q1]
    lessons
    [q1]> and filled in the free periods with extra work?[/q1]

    Those were the times I had to be at a a school-type place. Scattered throughout the week I had 12 x
    40 minute free periods, (and breaktime, lunchtime, registration, assemblies, general studies / key
    skills etc) the rest of the time lessons. Remember I did FM in one year, so had extra time
    allocated to that.

    Just makes for very long days when you're doing work at home too.

    Peter

    Peter,

    [q1]> I did FM in one year (the second year) and looking back I don't know how I survived (8:30-6 M-Th,[/q1]
    [q1]> 8:30-4 F) [And before anyone says that's not[/q1]
    much
    [q1]> longer than office hours - you don't get homework from offices and also[/q1]
    its
    [q1]> more tiring learning new stuff than using things you already know :-) ][/q1]

    I definitely agree here.

    [q1]> I reckon I'd do it again though - all good fun and the FM is so much more interesting.[/q1]

    yes, once you've done FM, single Maths looks so dull.

    [q1]> I'm going camping for a few days and I'm also off on an exchange to Japan[/q1]

    wow, lucky you!

    [q1]> ... not to mention having a look over the uni reading lists. Never a dull moment round here.[/q1]

    btw does anyone know if there are any reading lists for nat-sci? I've only seen the 'Preliminary
    Reading List' on the nat-sci website, but it looks like the books are just suggestions for people
    who have nothing else to do with their sad lives during the summer holiday than sit at home reading
    Feynman (mind you, I bought the first volume of the lectures and I have several books on the list
    ). Someone I know got a reading list from her Cambridge college (she's got an offer to read
    Engineering), but Trinity never sent an 'official' reading list to me.

    [q2]> > Going to Prague on Friday (very early in the morning, aghhhhhhhhhhh),[/q2]
    then
    [q2]> > leaving again on Sunday (going to Madeira for a week).[/q2]
    [q1]> enjoy your holiday.. now everything's over.[/q1]

    well, I'll try to do my best. I bet I'll be dragged through all the golf courses within a 100km
    radius of the hotel, in the sweltering heat. It might be fun though, the staff of the golf clubs
    might mistake me for my dad's wife, or better still, for his mistress. It never ceases to amuse me.

    [q1]>If I dare ask, what did you think of the AEA?[/q1]

    It wasn't too bad. Questions 2, 3, 4 and 7 were particularly lovely (for
    me). When I saw the first (trigonometry) question, I thought I'd had it. I spent the first half an
    hour on it, couldn't work it out (even though it was obviously meant to ease us into the exam) -
    I was trying to perform some complex number magic with it (quite a stupid idea, because complex
    numbers were introduced in P4, whereas we were supposed to be able to do well in the exam with
    just single maths knowledge). Then I did the other questions and found them fairly
    straightforward (if much longer than A-level questions) and enjoyable. I went back to the
    trigonometry one at the end, and finally solved it. I was very glad I didn't panic after the
    rather underwhelming start. I was also quite impressed that I could answer all questions (apart
    from a small bit of the proof thingy in Q5), which I didn't expect I would be able to do, but I
    didn't have time to check my answers at the end, and I'm sure I made mistakes in the paper. I
    hope I will pass it though. The grading has never been quite clear to me. I downloaded a document
    from the EDEXCEL website and it said that 'Distinction' will be awarded to candidates who
    answered 'most' questions and 'Merit' to those who succeeded in answering 'many' of the
    questions, which is a bit fuzzy, but then it's not an ordinary exam, so I would expect a more
    individual approach to marking the papers. I was a bit scared by the maximum of 7 marks awarded
    for 'style, clarity and presentation' in the paper overall. Heh, I think I'll get 0 for that.
    Generally, I think the questions were quite similar to A-level ones, but they didn't break a
    (say) 15-step question into 5 bits for you, but you were left to figure it all out from beginning
    to end (in Qs 1, 2, 3 and 4 at least). So how did everyone else find it?

    n.

    [q1]> My experience is that many people can get a grade A A-level in their mother tongue or a language[/q1]
    [q1]> they are bilingual in without showing any ability in anything else. Therefore, I do not regard[/q1]
    [q1]> such a qualification as of any use for admissions purposes, and pay no attention whatsoever to it.[/q1]

    and justly so! As I said I never took any Foreign Language A-levels, but a friend of mine did German
    at A-level some years back, and is now an EFL teacher. She said that the level expected of an
    A-level language student is about the same as that expected of an FCE (First Certificate in English)
    candidate. That's about Upper Intermediate. If you couldn't speak your mother tongue to that level,
    it would be quite pathetic really.

    M.

    On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:50:40 +0200s, martina([email protected]) said...
    [q1]>Peter,[/q1]
    [q2]>> I reckon I'd do it again though - all good fun and the FM is so much more interesting.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>yes, once you've done FM, single Maths looks so dull.[/q1]

    I think the bit before the comment there was somewhat superfluous

    [q2]>> ... not to mention having a look over the uni reading lists. Never a dull moment round here.[/q2]
    [q1]>[/q1]
    [q1]>btw does anyone know if there are any reading lists for nat-sci? I've only seen the 'Preliminary[/q1]
    [q1]>Reading List' on the nat-sci website, but it looks like the books are just suggestions for people[/q1]
    [q1]>who have nothing else to do with their sad lives during the summer holiday than sit at home reading[/q1]
    [q1]>Feynman (mind you, I bought the first volume of the lectures and I have several books on the list[/q1]
    [q1]> ). Someone I know got a reading list from her Cambridge college (she's got an offer to read[/q1]
    [q1]>Engineering), but Trinity never sent an 'official' reading list to me.[/q1]

    I don't really think there is one... the only one I can suggest is your A-level notes. I remember
    there was quite a bit of stuff we'd done at A-level that I couldn't remember when we used them in
    maths/physics/whatever. I did get a reading list, but it wasn't really that useful IIRC.

    chris

    [q1]> I think the bit before the comment there was somewhat superfluous [/q1]
    [q1]>[/q1]

    LOL, ok then. I got 5 hours of sleep this night. Then the check-in desk at the airport had a
    computer breakdown, so it was utter chaos there. And the best bit was moving the 35-kg suitcase (not
    to mention 3 other bags) around on my own. So my comments must be even more superfluous than usual
    after a day like this.

    [q1]> I don't really think there is one... the only one I can suggest is your A-level notes.[/q1]

    will do. thanks.

    you back home now?

    M.
 
 
 
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