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The greatest academic honour for an undergrad at Oxford
What is the greatest academic honour an undergraduate student can achieve from Oxford?
I'm sure there must be some sort of recognition system beyond the 1st class honour in each subject.
I heard something about 'All Souls Scholars', but I couldn't find anything about it...
So.. basically, if you become 'the top' (only one) in your course, what sort of recognition can you expect?
I'm sure there must be some sort of recognition system beyond the 1st class honour in each subject.
I heard something about 'All Souls Scholars', but I couldn't find anything about it...
So.. basically, if you become 'the top' (only one) in your course, what sort of recognition can you expect?
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Reply 1
Double First Class scholars like Margaret Drabble or A.S. Byatt? Basically achieving Firsts in two subjects in the same degree, you get a special distinction/merit mention in your final certificate.
Reply 2
ssl9165
Double First Class scholars like Margaret Drabble or A.S. Byatt? Basically achieving Firsts in two subjects in the same degree, you get a special distinction/merit mention in your final certificate.
And Sir Robert Peel and William Gladstone...
Reply 3
14
How about a Congratulatory First, where the examiners give you a standing ovation?
Reply 4
If you are an exceptional student, All Souls college may invite you to take their entrance exam and become a fellow.
Much chanting and wearing of robes ensues.
Much chanting and wearing of robes ensues.
Reply 5
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Double First Class scholars like Margaret Drabble or A.S. Byatt? Basically achieving Firsts in two subjects in the same degree, you get a special distinction/merit mention in your final certificate.
Does one have to be admitted to take on double courses in the first place? or can one apply to take on an additional course once s/he gets admitted for one course?...Gosh, I would love to study double subjects, what a great challenge would that be?!
Reply 6
Cowtipper
If you are an exceptional student, All Souls college may invite you to take their entrance exam and become a fellow.
Much chanting and wearing of robes ensues.
Much chanting and wearing of robes ensues.
A fellow as a fresh B.A. holder? Is that even possible? What about other colleges or private halls? Is All Souls the only one that does that?
Reply 7
ssl9165
Double First Class scholars like Margaret Drabble or A.S. Byatt? Basically achieving Firsts in two subjects in the same degree, you get a special distinction/merit mention in your final certificate.
So this would apply for joint honours students?
Reply 8
flglxpstbxkdls
A fellow as a fresh B.A. holder? Is that even possible? What about other colleges or private halls? Is All Souls the only one that does that?
Yes, though they only appoint two fellows per year. All Souls is the only college that does this, as far as I am aware.
Take a look here
Reply 9
Cowtipper
All Souls is the only college that does this, as far as I am aware.
Take a look here
Take a look here
Yes, it's just All Souls that do this. You don't have to pursue academia if you win a prize fellowship - you can keep a small stipend and dining rights etc while pursuing another career.
But most prize fellows use the opportunity to pursue graduate studies (typically a DPhil) and postdoctoral work before applying for an academic appointment elsewhere.
Information about prize fellowships is here
Reply 10
Andy the Anarchist
So this would apply for joint honours students?
I can't say... Galdstone did double first in Classics & Mathematics (which isn't one of the joint honours offered today)...but...it was in 1828, so I'm a bit confused
Reply 11
oxbridge_tutor
Yes, it's just All Souls that do this. You don't have to pursue academia if you win a prize fellowship - you can keep a small stipend and dining rights etc while pursuing another career.
But most prize fellows use the opportunity to pursue graduate studies (typically a DPhil) and postdoctoral work before applying for an academic appointment elsewhere.
Information about prize fellowships is here
But most prize fellows use the opportunity to pursue graduate studies (typically a DPhil) and postdoctoral work before applying for an academic appointment elsewhere.
Information about prize fellowships is here
In the web link you've provided, it stipulates about the exams in the following fields...
Classics, English, Economics, History, Law, Philosophy and Politics for fellowship of the College
Does this mean that one has to take exams in every single subject of humanities?... But then if it is so, isn't this a bit unfair for non-PPE students?
Reply 12
16
Why would PPE students be any better at Classics, English or Law than say... a history student? (beyond generally being awesome obviously)
Anyway, if you had read the link you quoted you'd see it quite clearly says you have to do two subjects.
Anyway, if you had read the link you quoted you'd see it quite clearly says you have to do two subjects.
Reply 13
14
Hmm, don't you think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself there? You won't even be starting your course until 2011, so why worry about the "greatest academic honour" you may or may not be getting in five years' time?
Reply 14
Teebs
Why would PPE students be any better at Classics, English or Law than say... a history student? (beyond generally being awesome obviously)
Anyway, if you had read the link you quoted you'd see it quite clearly says you have to do two subjects.
Anyway, if you had read the link you quoted you'd see it quite clearly says you have to do two subjects.
Where does it say two exams have to be taken?...I really can't find it.
and I was trying to point out that PPEists would be on their turfs on 3 subject areas should the applicants be required to sit all the exams said above.
Reply 15
hobnob
Hmm, don't you think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself there? You won't even be starting your course until 2011, so why worry about the "greatest academic honour" you may or may not be getting in five years' time?
1. Curiosity
2. Motivation
3. Ego
Reply 16
11
lol, once you get there you'll realise it's hard enough just doing your own degree and making it through the year, let alone getting the "greatest academic honour".
Reply 17
19
I was under the impression that a double first generally meant getting a first in mods and finals. 
Reply 18
14
flglxpstbxkdls
1. Curiosity
2. Motivation
3. Ego
2. Motivation
3. Ego
OK, I'll give you curiosity, but "motivation" and "ego" are fairly silly reasons. Before you set yourself the goal of becoming *the* best historian in your entire year (which will most likely mean setting yourself up for a fall), I'd suggest that you wait until you're here and you've actually had the chance to get a vaguely realistic sense of how good you are in comparison to others.
Reply 19
19
cpchem
How about a Congratulatory First, where the examiners give you a standing ovation?
They don't give you a standing ovation; they just call you into a little room and tell you how wonderful you are. Happened to ... one of the Suzies in the music department... probably Susan Wollenberg.
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