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Rebecca/Becca
ARGH! I hate all this complete bullsh*t about 'rahs'! It's a load of crap, just forget about it and stop having this conversation. Big wow, some people went to private schools and wear pashminas, but, just........ARGH!

Also, would like to point out that I am at Castle and went through state education my whole life.


Yeah its just jealous class war, its best not to get too touched by it all.
Chemistry Research, Durham University
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Reply 21
"People also take the piss and generalise about, say, chavs.

Think they're jealous too?-"

Haha what a lame come back. Be realistic. Your argument is like saying – ‘we slate our teachers, does that mean we are jelous of them too?’ it is patently obvious that there are lots of reasons why someone would be envious of a toff, but not a pikey and you know that.

I just don’t see why people can’t just leave them be. You don’t want to be their friend, and they quite obviously don’t want to be yours. Yes they are arrogant and snobby and whys that? Because they have the looks and money to back it up. Any normal person would envy that. Why else would you insult them - Its not like they do anything to personally offend you. In fact, they hang around in their own little cliques most of the time. So how is it that they are soooooo irritating? Umm could it be that the most irritating thing is that most of you mean absolutely nothing to them, and you can’t stand that.
Reply 22
What's the big deal? If you don't like 'rahs' you don't have to be nice to them, but you certainly don't have to slag them off the whole time. They didn't choose their upbringing and they didn't do anything wrong by having more money than you, and I think if you actually got over your prejudice and spoke to some of them you might realise they aren't bad people.
Reply 23
PublicSchoolAnn
you are a twat.


and you're so insecure about yourself that you have to have a screen name that tells everyone what kind of school you went to and hence your socio-economic class? pretty pathetic really

(and what right do i have to call people I've never met "pathetic"? About as much as Ann from her public school has to call the other guy a twat...)
Reply 24
to be fair it is a bit strange - why have you put that as your nickname??
charmingp
ummm so jelous?!?

If we're being completely honest here, the main reason people like you hate rah's is because they hate you first and its made you bitter. They're rich, stunning, dress well, speak well and yes, shallow as they are, they dont want to hang around with you because you're probably none of these.

Thats life. get over it as opposed to making childish remarks.


It breaks my heart....yes its embittered me and ruined my life..the entire focus of my life in fact, has been impressing these people and getting acceptance from them....as for stunning, i'm not so sure, maybe where you are but not where i am...i dress what i consider well, its about personal taste...no doubt these people know **** all about the music i like, or football, or politics, or science or anything else that interests me..i speak fine thanks...just at the volume which is necessary to be heard, not at 3 times it... :rolleyes: as for my income, i would not be so crass as to judge my personal worth on it, thats pathetic and superficial and empty, (what a surprise)..( although by Dad now earns about early 70's grand a year, most of my life we were not that well off, he was on an academic salary, so i've experienced all different kinds of economic circumstances). I notice when you listed their traits you missed out likeable and intelligent or indeed individual.....

Don't get me wrong, i'm not by any means reffering to everyone who's upper middle class/upper class, some i know are very likable people, but just what you refer to as Rah's(which to me means silly frivelous, empty, vacant people who spend their lives nattering and posturing in this absurd way, and all dress identically and talk the same infantile nonsense)

As for being rejected, well no, because they are not the kind of people i would want to associate with, but i would never reject one of them if they were nice, because i'm not insecure in that way. Have you ever considered the possibility that the fact these people put themselves in cliques and feel the need to consciously exclude other people, is a product of chronic insecurity?. I'm not insecure enough to have to go on about money, or how i think i'm superior, all that is just mindless posturing..its really very simple...I just don't relate to them, end of story. But i do find it odd how they seem to wan't to pigeonhole themselves so much and spout this hateful stuff about envy and how great they are and how others mean nothing to them etc, etc...you would not believe how many times i've heard that crap, its just, as i say, mindless, parrot-learned posturing
charmingp
What a bloody generalisation!

"They're rich (materialistic) , stunning (superficial) , dress well (self-obsessed), speak well (condescending). and yes, shallow as they are, they dont want to hang around with you because you're probably none of these."

thankyou. you have just proven my point. Bitter, jelous response.

So everytime I comment on them it's a "bitter jealous response" yet when you yourself say the same thing ["Yes they are arrogant and snobby" and labelling them "shallow"], it's okay?

And when you say "any normal person would envy that" you really are quite a long way up your own arse aren't you? Why would any normal person envy someone who (in your own words remember) is arrogant, snobby, and shallow?

If thinking other people are jealous and bitter of someone just because they don't have as much money as them makes you feel better, then by all means, go ahead. But for someone who doesn't seem to like generalisations you do a very good impression of someone who does. I'm jealous and bitter of them? Don't flatter yourself.
morals_officer
One of us is actually at durham.

One of us isn't.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Edit: Wow, some people actually don't know when I'm taking the piss, do they? Ah well.


No, I'm a year younger, and going to Oxford next year, stop trying to show off. Also, you weren't the only one taking the piss......
Reply 28
Naivesincerity –

‘parrot-learned posturing’ à and what do you think your speech is? Do you think you’re the first one to make a judgement like this? Err no. I love the way you take the moral high ground as if you are such a genuine, honest person but you are just a hypocrite. You judge them just because they have money just like they judge you for not having any. Here’s a few faults to argument I’d just like to point out –

1)’ I'm not insecure enough to have to go on about money’ – ‘although by Dad now earns about early 70's grand a year, most of my life we were not that well off, he was on an academic salary’ ?!?

2) You make huge generalisations. I assume that by the way you speak about these people, that you’ve never actually had one as a friend, hence how would you really know if they were ‘intelligent’ or ‘likeable?’ Oh wait, of course – by looking on. Let me guess – you’ve had a few sit behind you in a bar, a few sitting in the back row of a lecture ummm passed some in the street?

3) you are right, they do dress the same. Its a trend and there’s nothing wrong with that. But I’m guessing this is where you fish them out for you’re ill-informed, generalised, assumptions on what they’re like inside. You see a girl with a coller up, pearl earrings, pashy and perhaps a posh accent and she’s automatically a ‘vacant’, ‘superficial’ ‘un-intelligent’ being. I can’t see how else you would make such accusations, its obvious you never really have a conversation with any as you would have never made you’re original statement –
"hahah hate the bloody rahs...so posh...so vacant...so superficial...so irritating...so loud-mouthed....so inane.......so mindless"

4) “Have you ever considered the possibility that the fact these people put themselves in cliques and feel the need to consciously exclude other people, is a product of chronic insecurity?” – what have they got to feel insecure about exactly? They don’t spend their time slating you lower classes yet you constantly spend your time slating theirs – I don’t think they are the ones with an insecurity problem here. And no. that is not the reason they hang in cliques. They hang in cliques because they prefer to hang around with people who have similar interests to them – same clothes, same hobbies (yes – this maybe hunting, balls, pony club – who cares) same backgrounds…and so bloody what if they want to only hang around with people of an equal class. That’s life. You don’t hang around with the local pikeys who go round with slap heads and kappa suits and they don’t moan on about it.

I am sorry to get so annoyed over this. Its just you don’t know these people and yet you think you do so well.


Goldenbarnes –

- ‘I'm jealous and bitter of them? Don't flatter yourself.’ – hehe. I am not even talking about me you fool. How can I be up my own arse? Im talking about other people.
Reply 29
morals_officer
People of university age who still call their fathers daddy need lining up and shooting.

There is a strange correlation between "daddy-itis" and the amount of ralph lauren being worn, the presence of a pashmina and indeed if the person in question has just come from a "classics" or "ancient history" lecture.



Hmm...I do Classical Studies (Classics originally)- tick
I like wearing pashminas-tick
I went to an independant school-tick
I'm at Hatfield-tick

Am I a rah?...no.
Something tells me the stereotype doesnt fit

Hmm...

Edit:O yes, I used to be a member of the Pony Club and am a riding instructor during the holidays. Still not a rah tho...
Reply 30
I'm sorry, I've tried to follow this and im just not sure I get it. So there actually are "rah" people who stand around talking about their money and stuff? I thought that was just a myth, or like, something that happened like 50 years ago, I honestly cant comprehend how anyone can seriously think that havin more money makes you a better person? I always thought people who still thought that were a bit...not all there...like in the head...like racists. These people dont really exist do they...you guys are all joking yeh? yeh?

I've got a place at Castle, but I dont know whether to take it, I was a little worried I might not fit in (i only went to comprehensives etc) but then I thought nah thats a load of rubbish this is the 21st Century, now I'm not so sure.
Reply 31
meh...joel
I've got a place at Castle, but I dont know whether to take it, I was a little worried I might not fit in (i only went to comprehensives etc) but then I thought nah thats a load of rubbish this is the 21st Century, now I'm not so sure.


Wow...unconditional for Castle...nice one!
Really don't worry about not fitting in. The stereotypes that colleges get are simply that...stereotypes. They will never truly reflect what a college is like. The best thing is to visit and see if you like it.
I agree with your thought that this is the 21st century- i just wish it were actually true...
Reply 32
I've got a place at Castle, but I dont know whether to take it, I was a little worried I might not fit in (i only went to comprehensives etc) but then I thought nah thats a load of rubbish this is the 21st Century, now I'm not so sure.


I'm going to Hatfield and I've been state educated all my life, if the rahs reject us we can form a society or something
Reply 33
SammyD
I'm going to Hatfield and I've been state educated all my life, if the rahs reject us we can form a society or something


Really dont worry about it....it's not going to happen. The rahs are a minority and they find each other within the first few days (altho quite often they know each other beforehand). There is a great mix of people...u'll love it. Im living in again next year too so I'll cu there (and I'll be able to say I told u so! :p: :smile:
lekha85
Wow...unconditional for Castle...nice one!
Really don't worry about not fitting in. The stereotypes that colleges get are simply that...stereotypes. They will never truly reflect what a college is like. The best thing is to visit and see if you like it.
I agree with your thought that this is the 21st century- i just wish it were actually true...


:dito:
Reply 35
I know its silly cos, i like hanging around with loads of different kinds of people, ive got friends from all "socio-economic classes", of all different abilities, nationalities, backgrounds, and i just cannot understand how anyone could seriously discriminate...

...i do understand how it is easier to hang around with people with similar interests, but i dont understand how you could actually have a dislike for someone
charmingp


Goldenbarnes

- ‘I'm jealous and bitter of them? Don't flatter yourself.’ hehe. I am not even talking about me you fool. How can I be up my own arse? Im talking about other people.

Okay, so I said 'you' instead of 'them'.

Care answering some of my questions now?
meh...joel
I'm sorry, I've tried to follow this and im just not sure I get it. So there actually are "rah" people who stand around talking about their money and stuff? I thought that was just a myth, or like, something that happened like 50 years ago, I honestly cant comprehend how anyone can seriously think that havin more money makes you a better person? I always thought people who still thought that were a bit...not all there...like in the head...like racists. These people dont really exist do they...you guys are all joking yeh? yeh?

I've got a place at Castle, but I dont know whether to take it, I was a little worried I might not fit in (i only went to comprehensives etc) but then I thought nah thats a load of rubbish this is the 21st Century, now I'm not so sure.


Course they exist they are all over the place
charmingp
Naivesincerity

‘parrot-learned posturing’ à and what do you think your speech is? Do you think you’re the first one to make a judgement like this? Err no. I love the way you take the moral high ground as if you are such a genuine, honest person but you are just a hypocrite. You judge them just because they have money just like they judge you for not having any. Here’s a few faults to argument I’d just like to point out

1)’ I'm not insecure enough to have to go on about money’ ‘although by Dad now earns about early 70's grand a year, most of my life we were not that well off, he was on an academic salary’ ?!?

2) You make huge generalisations. I assume that by the way you speak about these people, that you’ve never actually had one as a friend, hence how would you really know if they were ‘intelligent’ or ‘likeable?’ Oh wait, of course by looking on. Let me guess you’ve had a few sit behind you in a bar, a few sitting in the back row of a lecture ummm passed some in the street?

3) you are right, they do dress the same. Its a trend and there’s nothing wrong with that. But I’m guessing this is where you fish them out for you’re ill-informed, generalised, assumptions on what they’re like inside. You see a girl with a coller up, pearl earrings, pashy and perhaps a posh accent and she’s automatically a ‘vacant’, ‘superficial’ ‘un-intelligent’ being. I can’t see how else you would make such accusations, its obvious you never really have a conversation with any as you would have never made you’re original statement
"hahah hate the bloody rahs...so posh...so vacant...so superficial...so irritating...so loud-mouthed....so inane.......so mindless"

4) “Have you ever considered the possibility that the fact these people put themselves in cliques and feel the need to consciously exclude other people, is a product of chronic insecurity?” what have they got to feel insecure about exactly? They don’t spend their time slating you lower classes yet you constantly spend your time slating theirs I don’t think they are the ones with an insecurity problem here. And no. that is not the reason they hang in cliques. They hang in cliques because they prefer to hang around with people who have similar interests to them same clothes, same hobbies (yes this maybe hunting, balls, pony club who cares) same backgrounds…and so bloody what if they want to only hang around with people of an equal class. That’s life. You don’t hang around with the local pikeys who go round with slap heads and kappa suits and they don’t moan on about it.

I am sorry to get so annoyed over this. Its just you don’t know these people and yet you think you do so well.


Goldenbarnes

- ‘I'm jealous and bitter of them? Don't flatter yourself.’ hehe. I am not even talking about me you fool. How can I be up my own arse? Im talking about other people.


I think you present wildly biased argument, you have not listened to anything i've said

1)i think you'll find i said i didnt get my self worth from money, but as you made the point that i MUST have these attitudes because i lack money, i thought i'd point out that i don't lack money, as it seeemed relevant to the discussion.. i dont see how you can object to that...secondly, if you read what i've said, i'm not classing everyone wealthy and upper middle/upper class as a "rah", i've already explained mine and everybodys stereotype of what the word means

4)I also think you'll find they spend a considerable amount of time "slating the lower classes", i was not moaning about them being in cliques i merely said people who do that, which is by no means restricted to yahs,its in many walks of life, puzzle me, as its not my thing.
goldenbarnes
So everytime I comment on them it's a "bitter jealous response" yet when you yourself say the same thing ["Yes they are arrogant and snobby" and labelling them "shallow"], it's okay?

And when you say "any normal person would envy that" you really are quite a long way up your own arse aren't you? Why would any normal person envy someone who (in your own words remember) is arrogant, snobby, and shallow?

If thinking other people are jealous and bitter of someone just because they don't have as much money as them makes you feel better, then by all means, go ahead. But for someone who doesn't seem to like generalisations you do a very good impression of someone who does. I'm jealous and bitter of them? Don't flatter yourself.


She's full of ****, but sadly, its a common type...they go around ramming it down people's throats about how everybody envys us, and we care nothing about your insignificant lives..etc,etc, I say fine, if thats your view...but..yes they may not care about other people of the "lower orders", and reject them, and believe people envy them...but if they are secure in this "knowledge" why go on about it all the time? That is not the behaviour of a secure,confident person, it smacks to me of someone behaving in a way that they think makes them accepted by their peers
Worst of all though, it is so self-regarding and humourless, these people have no concept of self-irony. The most appropriate phrase is, as Goldenbarnes says "up your own arse" it really sums it up perfectly and to the girl i'm arguing with, if you think that doesnt exist, then you must be living in a bubble

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