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Reply 20

that's the thing i just can't believe there are enough waiting for marriage guys. one of my female friends (strict baptist) even said that the guys pretend they've never had sex yet go and sleep around at uni while away from their parents! has been such a day of revelations i tell you...the good guys are always taken and im not one for stealing other ppl's bfs but i'm a very outgoing person so get attracted to the outgoing guys who are always the bad boys apparently im a lil intimidating cuz i talk so much to the nicer boys!!! oh dear there's not much hope!!

Reply 21

no what im saying is, say you meet a really nice guy and he knows u r waiting for marriage. he wont go out with you. if he does, you go out together for say 6 months. then he'll see he isnt getting sex, then he'll move on.

hence we willalways be single :frown:

Reply 22

anjimcflanji
that's the thing i just can't believe there are enough waiting for marriage guys. one of my female friends (strict baptist) even said that the guys pretend they've never had sex yet go and sleep around at uni while away from their parents! has been such a day of revelations i tell you...the good guys are always taken and im not one for stealing other ppl's bfs but i'm a very outgoing person so get attracted to the outgoing guys who are always the bad boys apparently im a lil intimidating cuz i talk so much to the nicer boys!!! oh dear there's not much hope!!


my advice would be not to change who you are or feel pressured into doing things you dont feel totally happy with.

school/college years are difficult for people and they all want relationships and fun and the hormones fly etc.

i sound like an old man lol. nah, at our age theres plenty of time to find someone. its not a race. being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed of really. its a virtue really. im not a virgin and dont regret having sex but i dont think everyone has to go out and get laid before they leave their teenage years.

Reply 23

magiccarpet
no what im saying is, say you meet a really nice guy and he knows u r waiting for marriage. he wont go out with you. if he does, you go out together for say 6 months. then he'll see he isnt getting sex, then he'll move on.

hence we willalways be single :frown:


not really a nice guy then is he...

Reply 24

anjimcflanji
ok so we were having a debate and i was the only female there at the time so quite curious as to what the rest of you guys think... we were talking about virginity and there were several schools of thought. 1) wait until you're married (he's christian) 2) what is the point to it you (ie girls) can DIY or jus have a few drinks get with a guy..... 3) it's best if you wait til you're in love but as long as you do it when you want to and 4) not really fussed....so what's the deal here? what do you guys think of 18yr old virgins who are waiting for love etc? Would you choose a virgin or prefer a girl with experience? or is there such a thing as too much experience???
sorry it's a long one but i was so suprised at some of their comments about their ex's and the complete double standards!
thank you! :smile:


Being a virgin at 18 is nothing unusual. It's even very normal. It usually shows that the girl actually has values and hasn't just done something for the sake of it, and to fit in. It's pretty tragic to feel like you have to do it.

What's more, there's no need to lie about your virginity. The number of people who lie about it is amazing. When you have about half of your 12 or 13-year school mates claiming they've had sex (of course it's always a story about some girl on holiday, never someone you know), you realise that the whole thing is pathetic.

If a guy is attracted to a girl, the fact she's a virgin cannot be worse than if she isn't. Any guy would be honoured that you actually choose him.
There's another myth to dispell: it's not multiplying sex partners, by having sex early that you become good in bed. It doesn't work that way. Actually, what happens is usually the opposite. I've known older girls with loads of experience and they were pretty boring in bed to be honest.

Reply 25

i wasn't going to change i just find it irritating. you don't sound like an old man just more sensible than most. i spose tho if you're waiting for marriage and it's a religious thing i guess you'd find similar minded people but if it's not religious then i would have no idea. one of them put it earlier that they dont want to know about a girl's exs and just like to assume that they've magically found this knowledge and experience so it seems they want a virgin in theory yet not. such funny creatures!

Reply 26

englishstudent
Do you feel strongly that your husband should be a virgin too?


Hmmm depends, I suppose. I mean, fingers crossed I would find someone before I get too old - but like if they were a divorcee or something then they're hardly gonna be virgins are they? Or if they simply made a mistake, then it's forgivable. I'm not really sure tbh!

magiccarpet
im of the same opinion although at my age (19) alot of fit guys get put off by that. do you think you'll ever meet a guy who will have a relationship with you to the point they wana marry you with out having sex?


Well if he loves me and respects me, then he'll wait won't he? - if he "can't wait to have sex" and won't marry me unless I have sex with him first - well what kinda boyfriend is that!!!?? Anyway I plan on marrying a Christian, seeing as I'm Christian myself, so our values should be the same, more or less.

Reply 27

anjimcflanji
i wasn't going to change i just find it irritating. you don't sound like an old man just more sensible than most. i spose tho if you're waiting for marriage and it's a religious thing i guess you'd find similar minded people but if it's not religious then i would have no idea. one of them put it earlier that they dont want to know about a girl's exs and just like to assume that they've magically found this knowledge and experience so it seems they want a virgin in theory yet not. such funny creatures!


No normal guy is bothered by the fact a girl is a virgin. Only the fact she's slept around a lot can become a problem.

Reply 28

anjimcflanji
one of them put it earlier that they dont want to know about a girl's exs and just like to assume that they've magically found this knowledge and experience so it seems they want a virgin in theory yet not. such funny creatures!


yes, for me it isnt to do with religion, but upbringing and personal belief that it is better to wait fr marriage

as for what you said above, yes. im a virgin and my bf was mad when i spoke about my one ex bf. my bf ignored me for 2 weeks after that. so they all like to think of the girl as a vigin


what sickens me is ugys who go out with you just because you are a virgin, with the intention of sleeping with you just because you are a virgin :mad:

Reply 29

what sickens me is ugys who go out with you just because you are a virgin, with the intention of sleeping with you just because you are a virgin
i hate that. im not waiting til i get married jsut til i find the right person but there was this guy who found out that i hadn't slept with anyone and was constantly asking me to sleep with him in the end i just told him that id slept with a friend and then he quickly dissappeared! going back to number 3 sam he has walked away on several virgins but at least he didnt sleep with them and then dump them.... i know having more than one lover doesn't make you better just to clarify or some people i know would be experts!

Reply 30

anjimcflanji
i hate that. im not waiting til i get married jsut til i find the right person but there was this guy who found out that i hadn't slept with anyone and was constantly asking me to sleep with him in the end i just told him that id slept with a friend and then he quickly dissappeared! going back to number 3 sam he has walked away on several virgins but at least he didnt sleep with them and then dump them.... i know having more than one lover doesn't make you better just to clarify or some people i know would be experts!


alot of guys think virgin girls need 'teaching' hence they sleep with them then dump them

also, i am christain but all the other christains i've met do sleep with people and have one night stands etc.it really depressed me to find a girl who went to some catholic strict girls school does this, and im the only virgin i know.so im gonna wai til im 25 n if i still havent found anyone then im gonna randomly sleep with anyone just so i can get married.

Reply 31

i really doubt that will happen as i can name at least 5 boys that want to wait til they get married, and 4 of those are at uni so i'm sure you'll find someone. but what would be the point of waiting so long then just throwing it away you might at least be with someone for 6 months who you care about they care about you then you're not wasting it.
as for the teaching theory of guys i say bull s h i t most of the guys i have met can't get the basics right so i feel sorry for those other girls theyve slept with. but i also think that we're all individual so a certain amount of guidance shall we say is needed because no two girls react in the same way and im sure guys dont either.

Reply 32

SamTheMan

There's another myth to dispell: it's not multiplying sex partners, by having sex early that you become good in bed. It doesn't work that way. Actually, what happens is usually the opposite. I've known older girls with loads of experience and they were pretty boring in bed to be honest.


quite.

people in a long term relationship often know each other far better and know what works and doesnt.

Reply 33

irisng
If a guy decided not to date me simply cus I'm a virgin then tbh I don't really wanna be with such a man. If he's not gonna love me for me but want me for sex then tbh he can go sod off really. I will/defo want to, at least, wait til after marriage before I have sex - one thing that's reserved only for my husband.

I wouldn't let any guys touch me full stop unless we were serious about each other.

:dito:

Reply 34

anjimcflanji
i really doubt that will happen as i can name at least 5 boys that want to wait til they get married, and 4 of those are at uni so i'm sure you'll find someone. but what would be the point of waiting so long then just throwing it away you might at least be with someone for 6 months who you care about they care about you then you're not wasting it.
as for the teaching theory of guys i say bull****most of the guys i have met can't get the basics right so i feel sorry for those other girls theyve slept with. but i also think that we're all individual so a certain amount of guidance shall we say is needed because no two girls react in the same way and im sure guys dont either.


well im at uni and before that at a comprehensive school, and except for the strict muslims with headscarfs i didnt find any guys waiting.

Reply 35

I'm not male... but, I can say that... inexperience in a girl is a MASSIVE turn-on for me... you get to teach them, show them, let them discover... I LOVE IT... So yeah, wait till ur with someone you love gals!!...

Reply 36

anjimcflanji
ok so we were having a debate and i was the only female there at the time so quite curious as to what the rest of you guys think... we were talking about virginity and there were several schools of thought. 1) wait until you're married (he's christian) 2) what is the point to it you (ie girls) can DIY or jus have a few drinks get with a guy..... 3) it's best if you wait til you're in love but as long as you do it when you want to and 4) not really fussed....so what's the deal here? what do you guys think of 18yr old virgins who are waiting for love etc? Would you choose a virgin or prefer a girl with experience? or is there such a thing as too much experience???
sorry it's a long one but i was so suprised at some of their comments about their ex's and the complete double standards!
thank you! :smile:


I'd go with number 3. Quite the alter of you, my faith in girls has been completely destroyed since coming to college. I'd think it was admirable and rare if an 18yr old gal was waiting for love, as from what I've seen around my college, is girls that are not interested in love at all, who care about nothing other than sex. Its actually rather distressing as I prefer a longlasting rewarding relationship. I wouldn't mind at all if someone wanted to wait before taking that plunge, infact I'd prefer it, suppose it means they have higher moral values (and adds to the tension :wink:). I definitly agree someone with <too much> experiance being a turn-off.

-Lee

Reply 37

leenick
I'd go with number 3. Quite the alter of you, my faith in girls has been completely destroyed since coming to college. I'd think it was admirable and rare if an 18yr old gal was waiting for love, as from what I've seen around my college, is girls that are not interested in love at all, who care about nothing other than sex. Its actually rather distressing as I prefer a longlasting rewarding relationship. I wouldn't mind at all if someone wanted to wait before taking that plunge, infact I'd prefer it, suppose it means they have higher moral values (and adds to the tension :wink:). I definitly agree someone with <too much> experiance being a turn-off.

-Lee


but how can you tell if they've had alot of experience? just as long as they act and dress decently, surely its all the same?

Reply 38

You can tell, but only once you are well on the way to doing it, by then it's a bit too late.

I really don't think most men pick their partners by their sexual experience. I think losing virginity for girls is often a painful and traumatic experience, best to experience that with someone who loves and cares about you.

However it's your call, do whatever you want, I'm not going to judge you.

Reply 39

well if you cant tell until quite far down the line then how is it a turn off for guys, do they dump the girl due to this?

in my experience, guys find my lack of experience a turn off. when i say im 20 and stilla virgin they stay well clear :frown:

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