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Reply 20
My Classics teacher said that I should consider Christ's and Corpus for Classics - anyone know anything about either of the two?

As for Trinity, well, if the poverty of the Classics department is as dire as you make it out to be, then I guess its wealth is a good reason as any for applying
svidrigailov
Clare is very fluffy, and happy, and huggy, and claustrophobic, and passive-aggressive (possibly projecting). I know people driven half-mad by the togetherness of it all; and others who couldn't cope anywhere else, especially at a big scary college like John's or Trinity.

If you need friendship thrust upon you, then Clare is the way to go.

Christ - I wonder why they let me in, being loud, abrasive, over-confident, cynical, bad tempered and generally Scottish (i.e. emotion is for sissies, don't touch me, you freak)? :confused:
Reply 22
svidrigailov
Yes, although if you're scatterbrained like me you'll end up with lots of fines. Of course because of the short lending period, requests are more of a problem (especially if everyone on your course needs the same books). Selwyn also seems to have a fairly good collection of Classics books.


Heh, or you join forces with friends at other Colleges and borrow books for each other!
Reply 23
Don't think we've ever demonstrated that level of camaraderie, have we?
Reply 24
platinumki
Christ - I wonder why they let me in, being loud, abrasive, over-confident, cynical, bad tempered and generally Scottish (i.e. emotion is for sissies, don't touch me, you freak)? :confused:



Don't worry; you'll assimilate rapidly.
Reply 25
svidrigailov
Don't think we've ever demonstrated that level of camaraderie, have we?


No, but then you and Puppy hardly need to (though my College does have the only copy of Cicero's Elegant Style in the entire University). I have contacts in other Colleges who've exchanged books, but if you're offering, I'm not one to refuse!
Reply 26
svidrigailov
Clare is very fluffy, and happy, and huggy, and claustrophobic, and passive-aggressive (possibly projecting). I know people driven half-mad by the togetherness of it all; and others who couldn't cope anywhere else, especially at a big scary college like John's or Trinity.

If you need friendship thrust upon you, then Clare is the way to go.


Yep, and we love it that way! We're not lovey dovey or anything like that, but other people have commented on quite how close it is. I enjoy it, though I'd probably be happy elsewhere, I would come here again!

Puppy, why do you say it's crap?
Reply 27
Helenia
Yep, and we love it that way! We're not lovey dovey or anything like that, but other people have commented on quite how close it is. I enjoy it, though I'd probably be happy elsewhere, I would come here again!

Puppy, why do you say it's crap?



For the reasons already stated. Plus it sent my friend mad! I really liked it when I first visited there but I just feel like it doesn't have anything particular to offer- average size, not sporty, not renowed for much (correct me if I'm wrong on any of those counts) Obviously it's my own personal opinion but I really don't think I could live there.
Reply 28
puppy
For the reasons already stated. Plus it sent my friend mad! I really liked it when I first visited there but I just feel like it doesn't have anything particular to offer- average size, not sporty, not renowed for much (correct me if I'm wrong on any of those counts) Obviously it's my own personal opinion but I really don't think I could live there.


Fair enough. What happened to your friend?

No, we're not sporty (apart from the top end of the womens' boat club) but we're top 5 academically, I think, without it being a hothouse like Christ's, which is always good! The main strength is the music - easily on a par with larger places like Trinity and John's, if not better through the level of participation. Apparently we have 17/18 people who are grade 8 or above on the flute, and similar numbers on other instruments! One of the reasons I picked Clare was for the music; I wanted to be in the choir and everything, but quickly realised I was nowhere near the standard they required - it's a completely different league from my school chapel choir.

The main thing I would point out as a disadvantage is not the size in terms of number of people (just over 400 I think), but in terms of size of our main court. Only about 40 undergrads (mostly 3rd years usually) actually live in Old Court, which is the "main" bit of college. It's not like the Colony or Mem Court are far, and Mem accommodation is lovely, but it is somewhat spread out.
Helenia
Apparently we have 17/18 people who are grade 8 or above on the flute

Hmmm... and another one coming in October - I had no idea Clare was a hotbed of fluting excellence :p:
Reply 30
Just wondering if we could get back to the topic.... :rolleyes:
Reply 31
Well, what elso do you want to know? I'm pretty sure we've answered everything as best we can. You could always read a prospectus.
Reply 32
atom smasher
Just wondering if we could get back to the topic.... :rolleyes:


Christ's and corpus don't have a particularly notable reputation for classics - in fact I don't think any college does really. Although between the two I reckon Christ's would edge it. Did your teacher explain why he recommended them? Apart from Christ's, I'd say Johns was a good bet.
Reply 33
IMO, the most important factor in choosing a College for Classics is the College library provision. It doesn't matter how many Classics fellows your College has, as you'll just be sent to relevant tutors at other Colleges for supervisions, and several subjects are supervised centrally through the Classics Faculty anyway eg Linguistics. Also, as Helen said, just because someone is world-renowed doesn't mean they will be a good teacher/supervisor. I have supervisions with an eminent Fellow at King's, who expresses himself so poorly, and talks in such a convoluted manner, that I have difficulty following anything he says and consequently gain nothing from his supervsions.

Your College library, however, really does matter. A good way of finding out which Colleges have the best Classics collections is to get hold of Classics reading lists from the Faculty website, going to Newton http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/public_info.html selecting the College library sections, and searching for the books. My College is in the first of the 2 sections, and from my own experience of using Newton, the College libraries which most frequently come up as having the books I need are Churchill, Clare, King's and Newnham. The Colleges in the second half of the alphabet which seem exceptionally good are Pembroke and Trinity. There is nothing more frustrating than seeing the Classics books you need sitting in other College libraries which you are unable to borrow from!
Reply 34
Michelle2
IMO, the most important factor in choosing a College for Classics is the College library provision. It doesn't matter how many Classics fellows your College has, as you'll just be sent to relevant tutors at other Colleges for supervisions, and several subjects are supervised centrally through the Classics Faculty anyway eg Linguistics. Also, as Helen said, just because someone is world-renowed doesn't mean they will be a good teacher/supervisor. I have supervisions with an eminent Fellow at King's, who expresses himself so poorly, and talks in such a convoluted manner, that I have difficulty following anything he says and consequently gain nothing from his supervsions.

Your College library, however, really does matter. A good way of finding out which Colleges have the best Classics collections is to get hold of Classics reading lists from the Faculty website, going to Newton http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/public_info.html selecting the College library sections, and searching for the books. My College is in the first of the 2 sections, and from my own experience of using Newton, the College libraries which most frequently come up as having the books I need are Churchill, Clare, King's and Newnham. The Colleges in the second half of the alphabet which seem exceptionally good are Pembroke and Trinity. There is nothing more frustrating than seeing the Classics books you need sitting in other College libraries which you are unable to borrow from!


The King's guy is a legend!!! I'm so jealous you get supervised by him
Reply 35
Lol, you can swap now!
Reply 36
Did your teacher explain why he recommended them?


He said that most of the old classicists from my school had gone to corpus and christs and that they had all enjoyed the course at both colleges

Although between the two I reckon Christ's would edge it.


Why christs over corpus?

I'd say Johns was a good bet


Johns does look good on the prospectus, however it has accumulated a somewhat negative reputation on the forums (ie. Oxford than St. johns....), but i'll still consider it

the most important factor in choosing a College for Classics is the College library provision


And I think corpus is building a new library so if I was to apply for 2006 entry (when they think it should be completed) then that should swing things in its favour
Reply 37
atom smasher
Why christs over corpus?


Only because I tend to meet slightly more classicists from christ's than from corpus, and I think they have slightly better tutors. But you can't go wrong with either.

atom smasher
Johns does look good on the prospectus, however it has accumulated a somewhat negative reputation on the forums (ie. Oxford than St. johns....), but i'll still consider it


Yeah - it's reputation isn't really something you need to take into account, as you say. The forum probably isn't an accurate reflection of general opinion, and anyway it's all in jest.

Corpus is certainly a good bet. They have one of the largest tvs I've ever seen in their JCR, and that should be enough to convince anyone to go there. :smile:
Reply 38
Michelle2
Also, as Helen said, just because someone is world-renowed doesn't mean they will be a good teacher/supervisor. I have supervisions with an eminent Fellow at King's, who expresses himself so poorly, and talks in such a convoluted manner, that I have difficulty following anything he says and consequently gain nothing from his supervsions.



This is why it's fairly important to look at the research interests of your future DoS/supervisors, if you can. Presumably if you'd gone to another college, with fellows whose style was more to your liking, you wouldn't have this problem; but as it is, in a college with few fellows in your subject, you're more or less forced to go where you're told. All the more reason, I think, to consider carefully the number and interests of the fellows at prospective colleges.

(As it happens, I rather like that fellow at King's, and he is generally considered to be something of a genius; I think it's really a personality thing, some people are responsive to his style of thinking-out-loud, others think him a gibbering idiot).

As to library provision, I think it's possible to overstate the importance of this; although to be fair my college has one of the best collections of classics books, and I've rarely been unable to find the book I wanted there. It does rather depend on how you choose to specialize; I've spent quite a lot of my time over the last two terms doing ancient philosophy, and, having one of the two most important professors of philosophy in Cambridge at my college, we naturally have a fairly comprehensive range of books on the subject; hence my comment above that the research interests of fellows will dictate library provision quite often. Of course at richer colleges like John's and Trinity, you can simply ask the librarians to buy books you need, and they'll get them fairly quickly.
Reply 39
Hi..

I'll be doing the 3-yr course in Classics next year at Trinity. I was just wondering about these papers everybody seems to be talking of. What exactly are they like for us Classicists? How long and how linguistic/literary/historical are they supposed to be?
And one more question: how many hours a week are we having lectures/tutorials? I mean, is it plain self-reading most of the time like all other arts subjects?
Thanks in advance :smile:

Laura