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Original post by BJack
Yes, but it's all fine.


Well....as long as you learn all of it throughout the year when you're supposed and don't try to cram in right at the last minute......:biggrin: but on a serious note, I didn't bother to learn half the stuff, and have never needed it since bar basic determinants, integration etc.
GUYS THERE WILL BE NO MORE SOLID STATE CHEMISTRY EVER IN YOUR LIVES AFTER TODAY. If you are a 3rd year and haven't made the inexplicable decision to do it for your Part II/later life anyway.

:bban: is like a tenth of how happy I will be
^^ Ha I am doing solid state chemistry for my part II. Wish I had switched groups though. Infact I wished I had switched courses

My advice is to avoid the RGE group at all costs.
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Not impressed. :indiff:
Hey, I am currently in year.12, and I have just finished my AS level exams. I am considering applying for Chemistry at Oxford, and I wanted to know: If you were an admissions tutor what would you be looking for in a prospective Oxford Chemist?. Also, prior to your application to university, what books/ materials were you reading to broaden your Chemistry knowledge? I found a really old Physical Chemistry book in the library at my school, so I'm basically learning from that, and I'm researching the derivations of the equations and the Quantum principles.
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Original post by .Serenity.
Hey, I am currently in year.12, and I have just finished my AS level exams. I am considering applying for Chemistry at Oxford, and I wanted to know: If you were an admissions tutor what would you be looking for in a prospective Oxford Chemist?. Also, prior to your application to university, what books/ materials were you reading to broaden your Chemistry knowledge? I found a really old Physical Chemistry book in the library at my school, so I'm basically learning from that, and I'm researching the derivations of the equations and the Quantum principles.


They're looking for people who are good at problem-solving and interested in chemistry, with more of a focus on the former than the latter. I read Why chemical reactions happen by Keeler and Wothers, which is very good bridging material, as well Winter's Oxford Chemistry Primer on chemical bonding. (Although the latter is essentially covered by the former).

If you've found a topic that you find interesting and are happy to plough through, that should be enough.

The British chemistry olympiad is also a good way to start thinking about chemistry in a way you might not do at A level.
Original post by BJack
They're looking for people who are good at problem-solving and interested in chemistry, with more of a focus on the former than the latter. I read Why chemical reactions happen by Keeler and Wothers, which is very good bridging material, as well Winter's Oxford Chemistry Primer on chemical bonding. (Although the latter is essentially covered by the former).

If you've found a topic that you find interesting and are happy to plough through, that should be enough.

The British chemistry olympiad is also a good way to start thinking about chemistry in a way you might not do at A level.


I do own Why chemical reactions happen, but I've found it a little confusing, so I've decided to brush up on my understanding of atomic models, and then attempt reading it again.

With regards to problem solving, should I start looking at past olympiad papers? or perhaps even some STEP papers?
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Original post by .Serenity.
I do own Why chemical reactions happen, but I've found it a little confusing, so I've decided to brush up on my understanding of atomic models, and then attempt reading it again.

With regards to problem solving, should I start looking at past olympiad papers? or perhaps even some STEP papers?


WCRH is more of a bridging text between A level and university, so don't worry if you're not getting much out of it yet.

I've never seen STEP chemistry papers -- how long ago are they from? From what I remember, the olympiad is quite unlike A level papers. I think that's probably what you want, since A level chemistry is not a great approximation to degree-level stuff. Look for questions that make you think about chemistry and applications of the knowledge you have, rather than just regurgitating what you already know.
Original post by BJack
WCRH is more of a bridging text between A level and university, so don't worry if you're not getting much out of it yet.

I've never seen STEP chemistry papers -- how long ago are they from? From what I remember, the olympiad is quite unlike A level papers. I think that's probably what you want, since A level chemistry is not a great approximation to degree-level stuff. Look for questions that make you think about chemistry and applications of the knowledge you have, rather than just regurgitating what you already know.


I meant the STEP Mathematics papers lol :smile:. Thank you that is very helpful. I've just been scrolling through some recent olympiad papers, and it is quite challenging. I also wanted to know, if I do a Nuffield Science Bursary this Summer in Physical Chemistry, will this impress the admissions tutors? I do have some work experience also lined up, but I've been told that when it comes to Sciences, work experience does nothing for the application.
Original post by .Serenity.
I also wanted to know, if I do a Nuffield Science Bursary this Summer in Physical Chemistry, will this impress the admissions tutors? I do have some work experience also lined up, but I've been told that when it comes to Sciences, work experience does nothing for the application.


I did one in Organic. It won't harm your application will it? It shows dedication to the subject plus it's just a good thing to do.

"It does nothing for the application" sounds like a steaming pile to me, I think "you won't be penalised for not doing any" is nearer the truth; you can show your motivation in other ways.
It's ~universally understood that A level is a pile of rubbish (learning colours of inorganic complexes without knowing where they come from? Memorizing that diagram of the blast furnace? Who the **** cares?), so IMO anything that shows you actually care about chemistry instead of the pointless and not-always-true stuff the teachers tell you is good. Work experience shows you're dedicated, and even if it wasn't useful to your application as Mr Dragon up there says it's useful in chemistry life anyway. You'll have experience that none of your colleagues will.

Anyone any ideas when we get Finals results? Not that I'm trying to think about it much...
Original post by FlowerFaerie087
It's ~universally understood that A level is a pile of rubbish (learning colours of inorganic complexes without knowing where they come from? Memorizing that diagram of the blast furnace? Who the **** cares?), so IMO anything that shows you actually care about chemistry instead of the pointless and not-always-true stuff the teachers tell you is good. Work experience shows you're dedicated, and even if it wasn't useful to your application as Mr Dragon up there says it's useful in chemistry life anyway. You'll have experience that none of your colleagues will.

Anyone any ideas when we get Finals results? Not that I'm trying to think about it much...


Finals results should be out on 26th or 27th. See point 8 here: http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/teaching/oxfordonly/PartIBInstCand12.html
I'm going to be a bridesmaid on the 29th. I was thinking of not checking until after the wedding in case it's bad news, but now I think I'll just be worrying all the time if I do that! Gaahhh! :afraid:

Trinity's first years have done amazingly well this year - they've broken a long-standing tradition by not failing anything, at least two of them got distinctions, everyone got a 1st in the Maths paper, my college grandchildren got 90 and 97 in Maths...maaaaan they've made it look so easy! :redface: So proud of them! :h:
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Original post by .Serenity.
I meant the STEP Mathematics papers lol :smile:. Thank you that is very helpful. I've just been scrolling through some recent olympiad papers, and it is quite challenging. I also wanted to know, if I do a Nuffield Science Bursary this Summer in Physical Chemistry, will this impress the admissions tutors? I do have some work experience also lined up, but I've been told that when it comes to Sciences, work experience does nothing for the application.


I don't know anything about the Nuffield bursaries but anything that shows you are enthusiastic about chemistry can't harm your application. But remember (and this applies wrt the work experience too) that you're applying for an academic course and whether or not your application is successful or not will come down to how good your chemistry is and not how many opportunities you've already been able to take up.
Original post by Jeykayem
Finals results should be out on 26th or 27th.


Dayum, I wish I hadn't asked now... had no idea it was so close; I'll spend Tuesday and Wednesday terrified now!

Original post by Jeykayem
my college grandchildren got 90 and 97 in Maths


Dude. Well jeal. Seriously, well done to them if they put the work in (if they didn't, they're just far too clever asses :P).
Original post by BJack
I don't know anything about the Nuffield bursaries but anything that shows you are enthusiastic about chemistry can't harm your application. But remember (and this applies wrt the work experience too) that you're applying for an academic course and whether or not your application is successful or not will come down to how good your chemistry is and not how many opportunities you've already been able to take up.


Thank you for the advice ! I guess, it's a case of whether the admissions tutor see's something within my application that is worth pursuing. I'll just continue to expand my knowledge by reading :smile:.
Hey I want to apply for chemistry...I was wondering if Oxford is like Cambridge where they look at the 3 most relevant subject grades.
I got 4As...1 D in gen studies and a B in french.
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Original post by chignesh10
Hey I want to apply for chemistry...I was wondering if Oxford is like Cambridge where they look at the 3 most relevant subject grades.
I got 4As...1 D in gen studies and a B in french.


Getting a D in General Studies doesn't exactly look good but it's unlikely to have a marked effect on the outcome of your application. The tutors will be much more interested in your relevant subjects' A grades and how well you perform at interview.
Original post by BJack
Getting a D in General Studies doesn't exactly look good but it's unlikely to have a marked effect on the outcome of your application. The tutors will be much more interested in your relevant subjects' A grades and how well you perform at interview.

Yeah exactly, I feel awful for not doing the exam properly now. OK thanks a lot!
How much should freshers know going in to the first year? I got in with SAT II and AP Chemistry scores, and looking at A Level Chemistry scares me a bit...
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Original post by AirPressure
How much should freshers know going in to the first year? I got in with SAT II and AP Chemistry scores, and looking at A Level Chemistry scares me a bit...


I'm sure you'll be fine. Everything is taught from scratch once you get here (!), though the very basics are covered quickly. Are there any bits in particular that were worrying?

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