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Anyone study BAEcon at Manchester?

Does anyone study this degree currently? What is it like, do you enjoy it? How do you find studying other subjects other than the one (or two) you want to specialise in.. do you find it boring or a waste of time?

I'm worried that this course isn't for me, as I'm really only interested in studying politics. Is there anywhere I can get information about the number of credits I would have to take in other subjects, for example economics and computing? I can't seem to find information this specific on the school website.

Thanks
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Reply 2
I study BAEcon and do Accounting and Finance, and I have a course guide somewhere I think so I'll see if I can find it for you later. I've got to get to uni at the moment though but I just thought I'd have my slight input and reply later. Btw, I love the course. It's a great degree programme and community. :smile:
Reply 3
Ok, I'm back with info :biggrin:.

When I applied to this course, and even started it, I didn't have a clue really what it was about and what made the BAEcon different from any other course. I suppose I'm lucky in that sense that I like it :smile:... I'll try and give you an insight though.

From what I can see in the course guide that I got at the beginning of this year, in your first year as a politics specialist you will have to take 120 credits - that's the same for any specialism. Within this you will take: 10 credits in Introductory Computer Applications (easy and really fun and has no real lectures :smile: ), 20 credits comprising of Mathematics and Statistics - the level depending on your previous maths qualification level (personally I'm doing Advanced Maths and Stats and although I really like advanced stats this semester, I hated advanced maths and found it very difficult), 20 credits from Economics comprising of Macroeconomics and Microeconomics again dependant on your previous level of study as to the level you study in these, at least 20 units from two Politics modules (i'm assuming you'd take both of these if you're a Politics specialist and each are worth 20 credits... bit odd, I know), at least 20 credits from a random selection of criminology, social anthropology and sociology modules and then a choice of other courses in finance, accounting, one politics module, history and study skills to boost up credits.

I don't know how much sense that makes to you, but it's the best way I can explain it so I hope it helps to an extent.

To answer the easier questions, as I said I'm on Accounting and Finance - one of the most regimented degree programmes with the least choice but still I have to take the Maths elements, Economics elements and have chosen a Politics module (International Politics - if you want to know anymore just ask :smile: ) and a Sociology module this semester. How it works is you generally take either 60 or 50/70 credits each semester and MOST modules will finish within a semester (after comprising of two 1 hour lectures a week and tutorials every week/two weeks dependant on the subject). Personally I've enjoyed the BAEcon and this diversity in module choices (you'll become much more specialised in the second and third years). I think the skills it allows you to develop are great - for instance, I'm an Accounting and Finance specialist so obviously mostly deal with numbers and calculations but Politics and Sociology modules (although can be a little difficult because you're not specialising in these so they're not your skills...) allow a break from that and a development of essay writing skills and other really useful things that many other degree programmes wouldn't allow. And although there are downsides of taking something you're not a specialist in, the first year's marks don't count towards your degree mark so even if you take something you find difficult you just have to scrape a pass to continue :smile:.

The BAEcon as a whole is a massive degree programme - the biggest in the university at 700 people each year, and the lectures always comprise of a couple/few hundred. This might be daunting and it certainly was to me on the first day, but the depth of opportunity and the community that comes from being a part of such a large degree programme is great. It really is it's own little bubble at times. It's also the most diverse degree programme in the university - which encourages nationalities to mix, and it really does have a much more sociable and friendlier atmosphere than I've seen from a lot of other large degree programmes.

So yeahh... that's the lowdown really. If you want to know anymore just PM me or ask here. As for the changing, you can change degree programme very easy on the BAEcon but the only one they don't allow this for is to change to Accounting and Finance. If you want to change to that it's very difficult and you need the same entry requirements as you would have to apply in the first place and also very good marks from the first year. Otherwise it's very easy to switch to just specialise in Economics for instance and I know lots of people that have done this when they've got to university.
Reply 4
I think in the first year you get the chance to do 60 credits worth of Politics (of which 20 are compulsory and the other 40 are optional so you can fill them in as politics modules) then in the second year you can focus on Politics a lot more.
Reply 5
Arsenalforev
http://www.socialsciences.manchester.ac.uk/intranet/ug/schedules/

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Hey, so have you decided on coming to Manc uni or are you off to Kent?
Am not to sure you know its tough decision , I like kent course slightly better but Manchester seemed a lot more fun and i mean a lot more , going to go and see Aston and make my final choice. It be tough , Manchester seemed so good.
Reply 7
keekee107
Ok, I'm back with info :biggrin:.

When I applied to this course, and even started it, I didn't have a clue really what it was about and what made the BAEcon different from any other course. I suppose I'm lucky in that sense that I like it :smile:... I'll try and give you an insight though.

From what I can see in the course guide that I got at the beginning of this year, in your first year as a politics specialist you will have to take 120 credits - that's the same for any specialism. Within this you will take: 10 credits in Introductory Computer Applications (easy and really fun and has no real lectures :smile: ), 20 credits comprising of Mathematics and Statistics - the level depending on your previous maths qualification level (personally I'm doing Advanced Maths and Stats and although I really like advanced stats this semester, I hated advanced maths and found it very difficult), 20 credits from Economics comprising of Macroeconomics and Microeconomics again dependant on your previous level of study as to the level you study in these, at least 20 units from two Politics modules (i'm assuming you'd take both of these if you're a Politics specialist and each are worth 20 credits... bit odd, I know), at least 20 credits from a random selection of criminology, social anthropology and sociology modules and then a choice of other courses in finance, accounting, one politics module, history and study skills to boost up credits.

I don't know how much sense that makes to you, but it's the best way I can explain it so I hope it helps to an extent.

To answer the easier questions, as I said I'm on Accounting and Finance - one of the most regimented degree programmes with the least choice but still I have to take the Maths elements, Economics elements and have chosen a Politics module (International Politics - if you want to know anymore just ask :smile: ) and a Sociology module this semester. How it works is you generally take either 60 or 50/70 credits each semester and MOST modules will finish within a semester (after comprising of two 1 hour lectures a week and tutorials every week/two weeks dependant on the subject). Personally I've enjoyed the BAEcon and this diversity in module choices (you'll become much more specialised in the second and third years). I think the skills it allows you to develop are great - for instance, I'm an Accounting and Finance specialist so obviously mostly deal with numbers and calculations but Politics and Sociology modules (although can be a little difficult because you're not specialising in these so they're not your skills...) allow a break from that and a development of essay writing skills and other really useful things that many other degree programmes wouldn't allow. And although there are downsides of taking something you're not a specialist in, the first year's marks don't count towards your degree mark so even if you take something you find difficult you just have to scrape a pass to continue :smile:.

The BAEcon as a whole is a massive degree programme - the biggest in the university at 700 people each year, and the lectures always comprise of a couple/few hundred. This might be daunting and it certainly was to me on the first day, but the depth of opportunity and the community that comes from being a part of such a large degree programme is great. It really is it's own little bubble at times. It's also the most diverse degree programme in the university - which encourages nationalities to mix, and it really does have a much more sociable and friendlier atmosphere than I've seen from a lot of other large degree programmes.

So yeahh... that's the lowdown really. If you want to know anymore just PM me or ask here. As for the changing, you can change degree programme very easy on the BAEcon but the only one they don't allow this for is to change to Accounting and Finance. If you want to change to that it's very difficult and you need the same entry requirements as you would have to apply in the first place and also very good marks from the first year. Otherwise it's very easy to switch to just specialise in Economics for instance and I know lots of people that have done this when they've got to university.

Thanks that was really useful :smile:
Reply 8
I really like the sound of Manchester Uni, and I've got an offer to study Politics on the BAEcon. Only thing is I'm worried about not being able to specialise in Politics enough and having to focus on other areas (such as Economics) which I don't think I'll enjoy. :/
Reply 9
keekee107
I study BAEcon and do Accounting and Finance, and I have a course guide somewhere I think so I'll see if I can find it for you later. I've got to get to uni at the moment though but I just thought I'd have my slight input and reply later. Btw, I love the course. It's a great degree programme and community. :smile:


PLEASE HELP OMGGGGG, finally found someone who is actually in Manchester
I screwed up my application ( I think)


When I applied for Manchester University I didn't realise there was two different
Accounting and Finance course. Now I know that one is Management (Accounting and Finance) (3 Years) [BSc] and another one is Accounting and Finance (3 Years) [BAEcon].
But without reading [BAEcon] I presumed that this accounting and finance course would be Bsc just like all other university (Most unis don't have accounting and finance under the Bsc Management(accounting and finance), simply accounting and finance.)
So now I'm in extreme panic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
at this stage I have received a conditional offer of AAB for BAEcon Accounting and Finance

1. Let me clarify, when people say that they have applied for accounting and finance at Manchester, Do they generally mean Bsc Management (Accounting and Finance) or BAEcon Accounting and Finance????????from the university's website I get the feel that BAEcon Accounting and Finance is the right course and the course that people generally take for accounting and finance
But looking at all other universities(Lse,warwick etc) they state as Bsc Accounting and Finance and on the webs some people say that Bsc Course is considered higher or better as it is more mathematical
so can you explain which course is the course that most Accounting and Finance student take?


2.If Bsc Management (acca and finance) is the right course then Should I email or call the university ?? Or do i have to contact UCAS first???

3. If Bsc Management (acca and finance) is the right course then how should I convice them?
explain my mistake and convince them by saying grade requirement is same (AAB) for both course and also course content between the BSc Management (acca and finance) and BAEcon Acca and finance is similar.
please advice me with more ideas...

4. If they dont allow me to change the course, is BAEcon that bad and not respected (especially compared to Bsc)??

Please advice me (without personal bias)!! I'm in extreme panic@!!!
Reply 10
UKgogoshing
PLEASE HELP OMGGGGG, finally found someone who is actually in Manchester
I screwed up my application ( I think)


When I applied for Manchester University I didn't realise there was two different
Accounting and Finance course. Now I know that one is Management (Accounting and Finance) (3 Years) [BSc] and another one is Accounting and Finance (3 Years) [BAEcon].
But without reading [BAEcon] I presumed that this accounting and finance course would be Bsc just like all other university (Most unis don't have accounting and finance under the Bsc Management(accounting and finance), simply accounting and finance.)
So now I'm in extreme panic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
at this stage I have received a conditional offer of AAB for BAEcon Accounting and Finance

1. Let me clarify, when people say that they have applied for accounting and finance at Manchester, Do they generally mean Bsc Management (Accounting and Finance) or BAEcon Accounting and Finance????????from the university's website I get the feel that BAEcon Accounting and Finance is the right course and the course that people generally take for accounting and finance
But looking at all other universities(Lse,warwick etc) they state as Bsc Accounting and Finance and on the webs some people say that Bsc Course is considered higher or better as it is more mathematical
so can you explain which course is the course that most Accounting and Finance student take?


2.If Bsc Management (acca and finance) is the right course then Should I email or call the university ?? Or do i have to contact UCAS first???

3. If Bsc Management (acca and finance) is the right course then how should I convice them?
explain my mistake and convince them by saying grade requirement is same (AAB) for both course and also course content between the BSc Management (acca and finance) and BAEcon Acca and finance is similar.
please advice me with more ideas...

4. If they dont allow me to change the course, is BAEcon that bad and not respected (especially compared to Bsc)??

Please advice me (without personal bias)!! I'm in extreme panic@!!!



Hi :smile:.

Well I'm now a second year on BA(Econ) Accounting and Finance. At Manchester the only real complete accounting and finance course they have is the BA(Econ), so yes you have applied to the correct one. :smile: I applied to both Management (acc and fin) and the full accounting and finance when I was applying but chose the full on accounting course because I believed that would suit me better and was what I wanted to do.

The thing with Manchester is they are a little different to other universities. Most other universities have the accounting and finance course within the business school - hence the Bsc accreditation, whereas Manchester's is placed under the school of social sciences - hence the BA(Econ) accreditation. The teaching of all accounting and finance modules is very much done under the Business School though it just means that the choices you have in your degree will be from the social sciences school rather than the business school and that you have compulsory economics modules in the first year, for example.

With the Management (accounting and finance), you do have a lot of courses in common with the BA(Econ) - i.e. you have a lot of the same accounting and finance compulsories in common, but more of a management/business element and less compulsory accounting and finance modules. So it all depends what you want to do really. At the end of the day, with choices, you can make the two degrees (module wise) look very similar anyway but it sounds like you've applied to the correct one for you. The BA(Econ) shouldn't put you at any disadvantage - Manchester ranks highly for accounting and finance anyway and that's the only real course they offer.

Hope I've helped and if you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask :smile:
samneagus
I really like the sound of Manchester Uni, and I've got an offer to study Politics on the BAEcon. Only thing is I'm worried about not being able to specialise in Politics enough and having to focus on other areas (such as Economics) which I don't think I'll enjoy. :/


My question is the exact same as what Samneagus said!
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alex_mckenzie_2005
My question is the exact same as what Samneagus said!


Go to the open day and look at the options and stuff online if you can is all I'd suggest.

I'm not sure what politics is like tbh... If it's like most of the other BA(Econ) courses though, after the first year you pretty much can do all of your chosen subject area :smile:.
Original post by keekee107
Hi :smile:.

Well I'm now a second year on BA(Econ) Accounting and Finance. At Manchester the only real complete accounting and finance course they have is the BA(Econ), so yes you have applied to the correct one. :smile: I applied to both Management (acc and fin) and the full accounting and finance when I was applying but chose the full on accounting course because I believed that would suit me better and was what I wanted to do.

The thing with Manchester is they are a little different to other universities. Most other universities have the accounting and finance course within the business school - hence the Bsc accreditation, whereas Manchester's is placed under the school of social sciences - hence the BA(Econ) accreditation. The teaching of all accounting and finance modules is very much done under the Business School though it just means that the choices you have in your degree will be from the social sciences school rather than the business school and that you have compulsory economics modules in the first year, for example.

With the Management (accounting and finance), you do have a lot of courses in common with the BA(Econ) - i.e. you have a lot of the same accounting and finance compulsories in common, but more of a management/business element and less compulsory accounting and finance modules. So it all depends what you want to do really. At the end of the day, with choices, you can make the two degrees (module wise) look very similar anyway but it sounds like you've applied to the correct one for you. The BA(Econ) shouldn't put you at any disadvantage - Manchester ranks highly for accounting and finance anyway and that's the only real course they offer.

Hope I've helped and if you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask :smile:

I am so happy to read this. I am in the same boat as UKgogoshing right now. But now I am relieved and think that I will just stay in BAEcon Accounting and Finance at Manchester.
HI. I was wondering how hard is the maths at the Baecon A&F Im a bit worried I didn't take Alevel maths but thankfully BAecon doesn't require it from your personal experience do you think it'll put me in a disadvantage?
Original post by keekee107
Hi :smile:.

Well I'm now a second year on BA(Econ) Accounting and Finance. At Manchester the only real complete accounting and finance course they have is the BA(Econ), so yes you have applied to the correct one. :smile: I applied to both Management (acc and fin) and the full accounting and finance when I was applying but chose the full on accounting course because I believed that would suit me better and was what I wanted to do.

The thing with Manchester is they are a little different to other universities. Most other universities have the accounting and finance course within the business school - hence the Bsc accreditation, whereas Manchester's is placed under the school of social sciences - hence the BA(Econ) accreditation. The teaching of all accounting and finance modules is very much done under the Business School though it just means that the choices you have in your degree will be from the social sciences school rather than the business school and that you have compulsory economics modules in the first year, for example.

With the Management (accounting and finance), you do have a lot of courses in common with the BA(Econ) - i.e. you have a lot of the same accounting and finance compulsories in common, but more of a management/business element and less compulsory accounting and finance modules. So it all depends what you want to do really. At the end of the day, with choices, you can make the two degrees (module wise) look very similar anyway but it sounds like you've applied to the correct one for you. The BA(Econ) shouldn't put you at any disadvantage - Manchester ranks highly for accounting and finance anyway and that's the only real course they offer.

Hope I've helped and if you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask :smile:
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Original post by IRCC_222
HI. I was wondering how hard is the maths at the Baecon A&F Im a bit worried I didn't take Alevel maths but thankfully BAecon doesn't require it from your personal experience do you think it'll put me in a disadvantage?

I think given no A Level, you would benefit from Introductory Maths in the first year to pull you up to the level needed. It is difficult but the vast majority of students pass first time. It is usually taught by one of the BSc Econ programme directors who is really very good and super supportive. It's optional, so you don't have to do it.
Original post by gjd800
I think given no A Level, you would benefit from Introductory Maths in the first year to pull you up to the level needed. It is difficult but the vast majority of students pass first time. It is usually taught by one of the BSc Econ programme directors who is really very good and super supportive. It's optional, so you don't have to do it.


Thanks for your reply ive had a look at the module now. I think I can pull it off and its given me some confidence I can do this. Appreciate it :biggrin: