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Reply 1
im just going from what ive been told but i think you need a masters in maths??
Reply 2
Yeah obviously take Maths

You also need to do a year course called a PGCE to become a qualified teacher.
I'm guessing not a degree in English?
GCSE maths at A*/A i'm guessing
A level maths at A
University maths degree
PGCE
Teach

you may, like yusuf said need something like a masters or further maths at A level but i doubt it :s-smilie: but i'm not 100% sure
Reply 5
Yusuf.T
im just going from what ive been told but i think you need a masters in maths??


I don't think you need a masters for secondary school teaching...just a degree in your subject and then do a PGCE. :yep:
Reply 7
Right ignore all the previous (well-meaning) answers as they will probably put you off and we need all the new recruits we can get!

I am a secondary mathematics teacher.

You do not need to do a maths degree in order to teach mathematics. A Level maths is very helpful and A Level further maths a bonus. You do not need to get straight A grades at A Level.

Most new maths teachers take a degree that includes quite a lot of mathematics (maths, engineering, physics, computer science, economics etc.). If you take a degree in a unrelated subject, you can still teach maths but you may be asked to take a subject knowledge enhancement course.

Once you graduate, you can train on the job or take a post graduate teaching qualification called a PGCE.
A maths degree and then a PGCE or one of the following.

Canterbury Christ Church University:
Mathematics with Secondary Education (QTS) (G1X1) 3FT Hon BSc

University of Cumbria:
Education and Mathematics (XG31) 4FT Hon BSc

Edge Hill University:
Mathematics Secondary Education with QTS* (X1GC) 3FT Hon BSc

The Manchester Metropolitan University:
Mathematics Education (XG11) 3FT Hon BA

Sheffield Hallam University:
Secondary Education in Mathematics for QTS (XG11) 3FT Hon BSc

The University of Strathclyde:
Mathematics with Teaching (G1XC) 4FT Hon BSc
Reply 9
ipswichblade,

I promise you do NOT need a mathematicss degree to teach GCSE mathematics. It is not even a preferred route.
Mr M
ipswichblade,

I promise you do NOT need a mathematicss degree to teach GCSE mathematics. It is not even a preferred route.


I never said you did! :rolleyes: I just said it is one route you can do.
Reply 11
ipswichblade
I never said you did! :rolleyes: I just said it is one route you can do.


That may have been what you intended but you actually said:

"A maths degree and then a PGCE"

which may have left the OP with the impression that a mathematics degree was essential in order to follow the PGCE route.

I was born in Ippy by the way.
Mr M
That may have been what you intended but you actually said:

"A maths degree and then a PGCE"

which may have left the OP with the impression that a mathematics degree was essential in order to follow the PGCE route.

I was born in Ippy by the way.


Well i didn't mean it like that. My dad is a maths teacher at secondary level so I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about.

I've only lived in Ipswich since July 2007, moving away soon for uni too, can't say I'll be sad to leave.
Mr M
Does your dad teach in Suffolk? I probably know him!


Nope. He's only ever been to Suffolk a few times...for football! I was born in Leeds and my family still live there so he only teaches in Leeds.
In my experience its the math teachers who dont take pure maths at university who are the best. I've had teachers who were brilliant mathematicians, but couldn't explain simple things to me.

So any course with a decent amount of maths involved.
hey i have done my alevels and got a B in maths and two D's in my other subjects. i am thinking of becoming a maths teacher, would the two D's effect my chances? i am thinking of going to hertfordshire uni to do a straight maths degree. any help would be great:smile:
Reply 16
chocoholic4lyf
hey i have done my alevels and got a B in maths and two D's in my other subjects. i am thinking of becoming a maths teacher, would the two D's effect my chances? i am thinking of going to hertfordshire uni to do a straight maths degree. any help would be great:smile:


No, the only point of your A Levels here is to secure your place at university. It doesn't make any difference to your employability as a mathematics teacher.
Mr M
No, the only point of your A Levels here is to secure your place at university. It doesn't make any difference to your employability as a mathematics teacher.


i have two uni options but am stuck which one to chose. Greenwich or Hertfordshire university. i personally think that Greenwich has more maths content than herts but could you help by looking at it for me please?
Reply 18
Hey, I just finished a maths degree and am about to start a pgce in a few weeks.

There are different routes into teaching secondary maths.

The first and most common route is to a do a degree in maths (with at least 50% being maths and the rest being another subject or maths). Then doing a Secondary Maths PGCE. This usually takes 4 years. (just to note that a PGCE can be worth up to a third of a masters now, so if you want to do a masters later then this means you can use the pgce as some of the credits).

The second route is to do a degree, then you can do an enhancement course for six months, then a Secondary Maths PGCE. This means you can choose whatever degree you like, then do a sort of maths top up in between the degree and PGCE. This usually takes 4.5-5 years.

The third route is to do an undergraduate degree in secondary education, specialising in maths. These are usually four year courses and give you the QTS (qualified teacher status) as part of the qualification, so you don't have to do a PGCE, but you can sometimes do them in 3. They do however give you only a BEd (so nothing towards a masters like the pgce).

The forth route is to find employment based training. Usually a degree in maths is required first, and then you can do the training in a school (much like a pgce but as a job and without the academic side, so more vocational) and get qts in about a year usually. These are harder to come by and are more like jobs so places are limited. Sometimes employment based training is available for those without a degree or a non-maths degree but these are less common to come by.

If you are not certain about teaching but are certain about maths then I would def recommend the first route as you can always use your maths degree in something else, whereas finding a job in the maths field with an education degree is far harder. If you are unsure about maths and teaching then consider the second route, as it is only an extra 6 months (and you still get grants, etc, to do it).

Sorry that was really long, hope it helped.

Just so you know, you only need above a C in GCSE maths and english technically (and a-levels don't matter) to be a maths teacher, but in order to do a maths degree you would need a-level maths. And in order to qualify for teacher status you would need to complete some more advanced level maths and teaching experience. So in a round about way you do need maths a-level and a degree but it isn't absolutely necessary and there are ways around it if need be.
amyob
Hey, I just finished a maths degree and am about to start a pgce in a few weeks.

There are different routes into teaching secondary maths.

The first and most common route is to a do a degree in maths (with at least 50% being maths and the rest being another subject or maths). Then doing a Secondary Maths PGCE. This usually takes 4 years. (just to note that a PGCE can be worth up to a third of a masters now, so if you want to do a masters later then this means you can use the pgce as some of the credits).

The second route is to do a degree, then you can do an enhancement course for six months, then a Secondary Maths PGCE. This means you can choose whatever degree you like, then do a sort of maths top up in between the degree and PGCE. This usually takes 4.5-5 years.

The third route is to do an undergraduate degree in secondary education, specialising in maths. These are usually four year courses and give you the QTS (qualified teacher status) as part of the qualification, so you don't have to do a PGCE, but you can sometimes do them in 3. They do however give you only a BEd (so nothing towards a masters like the pgce).

The forth route is to find employment based training. Usually a degree in maths is required first, and then you can do the training in a school (much like a pgce but as a job and without the academic side, so more vocational) and get qts in about a year usually. These are harder to come by and are more like jobs so places are limited. Sometimes employment based training is available for those without a degree or a non-maths degree but these are less common to come by.

If you are not certain about teaching but are certain about maths then I would def recommend the first route as you can always use your maths degree in something else, whereas finding a job in the maths field with an education degree is far harder. If you are unsure about maths and teaching then consider the second route, as it is only an extra 6 months (and you still get grants, etc, to do it).

Sorry that was really long, hope it helped.

Just so you know, you only need above a C in GCSE maths and english technically (and a-levels don't matter) to be a maths teacher, but in order to do a maths degree you would need a-level maths. And in order to qualify for teacher status you would need to complete some more advanced level maths and teaching experience. So in a round about way you do need maths a-level and a degree but it isn't absolutely necessary and there are ways around it if need be.


Thanks, that's really useful for me, as I've just completed a degree in Maths (2/3 Maths, 1/3 Economics) and have thought about teaching. The first route is the obvious choice for me. Would you be able to tell what that is involved in the Secondary Maths PGCE? I'm also not sure how comfortable I'd be going straight into teaching in the classroom!

Thank you.