generally BEng cources have lower entry requiments than MEng cources in the same uni
manchester BEng=ABB / MEng=AAB
warwick BEng=BBB / MEng=AAB-ABB
newcastle BEng=BBB / MEng=AAB-ABB
this is true only for unis with like medium entry requierments in unis with high entry requierments the BEng and MEng cources requiere the same grades
Bath BEng=AAB / MEng=AAB
Southampton BEng=AAB / MEng=AAB
Bristol BEng=AAB-ABB / MEng=AAB-ABB
Q1/ why are the entry requiermnts different? you need to do the bachlor first anyway so y they give you entry requiermes for a cource you will be starting after 3 or 4 years?
the only explanation i can give is that the cources are different/ i.e the first 3 years of the MEng cource are not the same as the BEng. which to me is also a bit contradictory since dont you first need a bachlor before you get a masters. this is just a assumption so if someone can please confirm it
Q2/ if so y are they different? since you can get get the same MEng degree in the same amount of time/ you can directly take the MEng cource which is 4years or u can take the BEng cource and which is 3 years and do a masters after that which is for 1 year / at the end u have the same result in the same amount of time
Q3/ y Beng and Meng cources in like better unis have the same entry requierments
Q4/ is this true for other types of degrees 2 ?
whoever reads it i hope i make sense
don't believe the hype, you'll move into meng automatically in your second year. the uni's need the extra fees.
oh yeah, forgot to mention, do meng. you'll be glad you did later if engineering is your cup of tea
That's going to drive me insane reading that...
Essentially, yes, you make a point. But just because you do a BEng doesn't mean you're entitled to then do an MEng at the same place. Though they are the same for the first 3 years on the whole, the last year makes a lot of difference and makes it a different course.
i agree with you drewski that by doing a Beng you are not entiteld to do an Meng but thats exactly my point why dont unis offer you the Meng depending on your perforrmance on the Beng and not your a levels/ like even if u get really good a levels it does not mean (although unlikely) that you will get a a good bachlor, a grade that does not give u the chance to do a master. so u see my point y judge u on a a levels for a master when you have do do a bachlor before
If you go BEng and prove yourself good and able you can be offered the choice to move on the MEng. Usually you have to maintain a higher average from the word go. Say 60% as opposed to 40%.
However, if you go MEng from the start you're normally locked into the 4years, so the higher academic requirement to get in is a way of weeding out those who could possibly get bored/lose interest.
There are several misapprehensions among previous responses.
First of all, most universities offer the chance to upgrade to an MEng during the course, depending on your results (usually you need to be on target for at least an upper second). You are usually also allowed (or forced, if you have poor results) to drop down to the MEng from the MEng.
Most MEng courses do not just tack on a year at the end. The syllabus differs from the end of the second year, sometimes earlier. Some universities don't offer the BEng as an option that you can apply for (e.g. Oxford, Cambridge).
I suspect (but don't know for certain) that the better universities almost entirely take MEng undergraduates, which is why their requirements aren't lower for the BEng.
The MEng is generally an undergraduate masters. You will find it difficult to find a one year masters to complement a BEng.
Oh, and OP, please try and write in decent English. Deciphering that misspelled post with its liberal sprinkiling of text speak (which is against the rules of TSR, by the way) was not easy.
i cant imagine this being the only reason / the weeding out process u mentiond can be done from the grades people get in their 3rd year/ if u get higer grades it does not nececeraly mean that u will not get board and stop being interested thas y u used the word "possibly" i still dont see a solid reason y the requirments are higher
The only way you'll get a definitive answer is by talking to the admissions dep of the universities.
You'll only get [educated] speculation here.
sorry for my inglish lol no man im just messing
thx this pretty much answers my question
i was quoting drewski he said it/ the thing i wrote was a response to what he wrote