Arrested, detained, DNA and trial.... for writing in chalk Watch

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...police-protest

Rarely has there been a more pathetic arrest than that of 23-year-old university student Paul Saville, who was confronted by four members of Britain's new breed of petty minded police officers after writing in chalk on a pavement, "Liberty: the right to question. The right to ask: 'Are we free?"'

With a wonderful lack of irony, the officers told him to stop writing. When he added one more letter they arrested him for criminal damage. The second year sociology and criminology student told the Daily Telegraph: "The whole reason I was writing in chalk was because I wanted to get my message across without causing lasting damage.

A point, of course, confirmed by the absurd behaviour ofthe police who... now regard disobedience as a criminal matter.

For expressing himself in a manner that caused neither damage nor offence, Saville was detained for two hours, photographed, fingerprinted and had a DNA sample taken. The police also examined photographs on his digital camera. He has pleaded not guilty to a charge of causing criminal damage under £5,000 and now awaits trial.
What is your opinion on this? I didn't think chalk on a pavement is criminal damage.
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they should prosecsute kids for playing hopscotch then
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That's actually ridiculous. Police time could be much better spent.
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(Original post by Annaconda)
they should prosecsute kids for playing hopscotch then
Erm they have: http://www.birminghammail.net/news/b...7319-17476597/
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Erm they have: http://www.birminghammail.net/news/b...7319-17476597/
ok that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard!
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(Original post by Rian1988)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...police-protest



What is your opinion on this? I didn't think chalk on a pavement is criminal damage.
The law is the law; follow it like a good human slave or feel the wrath of The Man.
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ok that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard!
The worst part is
The 12-year-olds concerned spent two hours in a cell, had their photographs, fingerprints and DNA swabs taken.
Surely a windup?
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There are two sides to every story. What's with the fashionable police bashing as of late?
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Vandalising things, whether with chalk or not (and, properly done, chalk can certainly endure the rain) is quite rightly illegal.

I don't agree with fingerprinting and taking DNA from every arrested person. But in this case, he was properly arrested - hell, he was even given a chance to possibly not be arrested and he continued his offence in front of uniformed police constables.

He'll go up before a magistrate, plead guilty and get his insignificant fine - exactly as should happen. There's no news there.
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I look forward to seeing how this plays out.
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welcome to labours britain.
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ok that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard!
Why? I wouldn't want people writing all over streets, pavements or whatever else - and clearly neither did the local residents in that case.
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I hope he gets life :mad:
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Why? I wouldn't want people writing all over streets, pavements or whatever else - and clearly neither did the local residents in that case.
chalk washes off anyway, sure they could be ordered to scrub it off, but putting 12 year olds in a cell for a couple of hours!?!
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chalk washes off anyway, sure they could be ordered to scrub it off, but putting 12 year olds in a cell for a couple of hours!?!
Not if its applied properly, and at any rate not until it either rains or someone cleans it off. Moreover, police don't have the power to order anyone to clean anything.
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normally for something like that you'd receive little more than a summons to appear in court.


obviously something went terribly wrong.
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(Original post by Rian1988)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...police-protest



What is your opinion on this? I didn't think chalk on a pavement is criminal damage.
I did think you are a labour supporter?

If I am incorrect I apologize, if I am right...........
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He could always NOT have vandalised the pavement, trust the Guardian to bash the Police
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This guy needs to be put on notice:










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I did think you are a labour supporter?

If I am incorrect I apologize, if I am right...........
No I'm not actually.
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