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Reply 2060
Original post by Incarnadine91
In Catz' defence, the architecture is unique, not your standard characterless 60's concrete, and a lot of it is really quite pretty. Climbing plants and trees everywhere, a large fish pond, right on the river as said before, surrounded by meadows and a lovely walk through the marshes just to the north, away from tourists and very quiet... All this, and just a 5 min walk from the centre of town at most. It's central, but without the noise, smell, or cramped conditions. Even the bit of river our punts use is quieter and prettier (imho) than the bit the tourists frequent. Plus, it's about as non-posh as you could want. Catz was specifically founded to allow people who deserved it access to Oxford, regardless of background, and it keeps the reputation of being 'inclusive' even today. It's certainly as friendly and sociable as you could want :smile:

I'm afraid being an undergrad I don't know exactly what the postgrad accommodation is like, or the rent levels for you. We do have a high proportion of en suites though - even some first years get them - and I can't imagine you'd get one of the 'box' rooms without a sink. Rooms are airy, modern and bright, though I have to say sometimes too bright as the blinds don't shut out the morning light as effectively as I'd like... Food in hall is both good and cheap though, and the postgrads get a black tie dinner every week on a friday - we watch them with envy. If you don't mind mushrooms being in everything the cuisine is surprisingly varied, with a choice between informal and formal hall every day. (Formal hall isn't too formal - no need to dress up in gowns or anything). The chef has been known to experiment - the meal of kangaroo lasagne is legendary - but that's not always a bad thing. £3.50 for a 3 course meal is not to be sniffed at, under any circumstances.

As far as I can tell you with my one year's experience, Catz is a great choice. Far too many people go "modern buildings = not Oxford" and don't bother looking past the surface, but if it's a good environment you're looking for, Catz has it in spades.


Thank you. Your defence of Catz is great, it is making me consider it more seriously now. I really don't care about the buildings very much - although I like historic buildings, if I get an offer I'll sleep pretty much anywhere; only 3 universities in the UK offer the programme I want to do. I simply can't afford to sleep anywhere for over 100 pounds a week, that's the problem! Fingers crossed for some scholarships.
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Reply 2061
Hi,
I'm an international applicant from Australia and have not had a chance to visit any of the colleges! (I vaguely remember driving through Oxford a few years ago on a trip to London haha, not very helpful, only recall stone buildings.) ANYWAY, I've somehow narrowed my list down to these:
Brasenose
Exeter
Magdalen
Merton
University
I'm not sure why but the last three seem to appeal a lot to me, and I don't know how to choose from this point in! If it helps I'm applying to study PPE.
If anyone has any suggestions/advice (not just for colleges!) please share! Thanks (:
Also, I've heard some colleges are more philosophy focused and such, is this true?! And if so, are any of mine? Wouldn't this sway the type of questions asked at interviews?! LOTS OF QUESTIONS, SORRY!
Reply 2062
Original post by sandrawr
Hi,
I'm an international applicant from Australia and have not had a chance to visit any of the colleges! (I vaguely remember driving through Oxford a few years ago on a trip to London haha, not very helpful, only recall stone buildings.) ANYWAY, I've somehow narrowed my list down to these:
Brasenose
Exeter
Magdalen
Merton
University
I'm not sure why but the last three seem to appeal a lot to me, and I don't know how to choose from this point in! If it helps I'm applying to study PPE.
If anyone has any suggestions/advice (not just for colleges!) please share! Thanks (:
Also, I've heard some colleges are more philosophy focused and such, is this true?! And if so, are any of mine? Wouldn't this sway the type of questions asked at interviews?! LOTS OF QUESTIONS, SORRY!


Exeter and Brasenose were my favourites when I visited Oxford actually. They just seemed friendly, and the guy who showed me around at Brasenose was very lovely and helpful.

At the open day (at Merton) there was a guy who declared to me 'I am going to study PPE because that is what all Prime Ministers studied, obviously.' This guy also told me that Magdalen was obviously the best College besides Merton because it looks best and is most famous and is thus far superior - and anyone who pronounces Magdalen incorrectly must not be worthy of Oxford. Ahem from that anecdote you can probably tell which 2 colleges I'd rather not apply to now. Although I admire this guy's ambitions, of course.

Anyway I was rejected first time around so just wait for some actual students to reply next ^^;
Reply 2063
Original post by Zenobia
At the open day (at Merton) there was a guy who declared to me 'I am going to study PPE because that is what all Prime Ministers studied, obviously.' This guy also told me that Magdalen was obviously the best College besides Merton because it looks best and is most famous and is thus far superior - and anyone who pronounces Magdalen incorrectly must not be worthy of Oxford. Ahem from that anecdote you can probably tell which 2 colleges I'd rather not apply to now. Although I admire this guy's ambitions, of course.


Yes, everybody studying at Magdalen is a loony PPE applicant. :facepalm2:
Reply 2064
Original post by Zenobia
Exeter and Brasenose were my favourites when I visited Oxford actually. They just seemed friendly, and the guy who showed me around at Brasenose was very lovely and helpful.

At the open day (at Merton) there was a guy who declared to me 'I am going to study PPE because that is what all Prime Ministers studied, obviously.' This guy also told me that Magdalen was obviously the best College besides Merton because it looks best and is most famous and is thus far superior - and anyone who pronounces Magdalen incorrectly must not be worthy of Oxford. Ahem from that anecdote you can probably tell which 2 colleges I'd rather not apply to now. Although I admire this guy's ambitions, of course.

Anyway I was rejected first time around so just wait for some actual students to reply next ^^;

Because attitudes of applicants who may well not get in at all is the best way of judging what colleges are like...

For the record, Merton's awesome.
Reply 2065
I'm sorry I caused offence guys. That guy just really put me off when I was there, is all I was saying. I didn't like the atmosphere, compared to other Colleges. Obviously he doesn't represent Oxford or its Colleges and I am sure you have lovely people there.
Original post by Zenobia
I'm sorry I caused offence guys. That guy just really put me off when I was there, is all I was saying. I didn't like the atmosphere, compared to other Colleges. Obviously he doesn't represent Oxford or its Colleges and I am sure you have lovely people there.


I can sort of sympathise - when I looked round Brasenose as an alternative to Catz, the girl who was leading me was very sniffy about my other option, calling it a "car park" and "not proper Oxford." I now know that she was almost certainly joking, and that Brasenose stdents aren't at all like that, but at the time it seemed unbearably snobby. My 50-year-old college is just as much Oxford as your 500-year-old buildings, thank you very much... But anyway, although it's unfortunate if you have an experience like that, the vast majority of people in the 'posher' colleges are still perfectly normal and not like that guy - he probably didn't even get in, if he had an attitude like that. I personally found the atmosphere at Catz to be more welcoming, but I'm sure that if I'd stuck around at any of the other colleges I'd have felt the same. So don't worry about that!
Reply 2067
LOL?! Thanks for the input guys but what about experiences of the other ones?!
Reply 2068
For an American student applying to study Mathematics and Computer Science (fall 2012), which college might be best? I've sort of narrowed my choices to Merton, Worcester, or St. John's, but am open to any suggestions. Regarding CS, I am more interested in the math/theory side. Thanks.
Original post by TeslaFan

Original post by TeslaFan
For an American student applying to study Mathematics and Computer Science (fall 2012), which college might be best? I've sort of narrowed my choices to Merton, Worcester, or St. John's, but am open to any suggestions. Regarding CS, I am more interested in the math/theory side. Thanks.
Academically it doesn't make much/any difference at all :smile:

Just have to keep browsing the college websites to find things you like more about certain ones :biggrin: One thing you might be interested in, is that St John's is very close to the Computer Science department. However Merton is closer to the city centre. And Worcester is close to the train station. Although of course, this being Oxford, nothing is very far away!
Reply 2070
Original post by TeslaFan
For an American student applying to study Mathematics and Computer Science (fall 2012), which college might be best? I've sort of narrowed my choices to Merton, Worcester, or St. John's, but am open to any suggestions. Regarding CS, I am more interested in the math/theory side. Thanks.

Merton has some of the nicest maths tutors ever, so I'm told by my friends who do maths. Also, we have Andrew Wiles now, though I guess that makes relatively little difference to undergrads.
Original post by fluteflute
Academically it doesn't make much/any difference at all :smile:

Just have to keep browsing the college websites to find things you like more about certain ones :biggrin: One thing you might be interested in, is that St John's is very close to the Computer Science department. However Merton is closer to the city centre. And Worcester is close to the train station. Although of course, this being Oxford, nothing is very far away!


Worcester is closer to everywhere that's worth going :colonhash:

When people say city centre they mean that big tower, I think, but everywhere worth going is north of that
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Reply 2072
Might go for maths at St. Johns. Anyone else applying for same/similar courses at St. Johns?

Also, any other recommendations about college choice? Currently also considering St Annes, Wadham, Queens and Worcester.
Okay I'm thinking of applying to The Queen's College for medicine....would anyone recommend it?
Hi. I'm applying for physics and am going to have a look around a few tommorow.

Obviously I've done some research already but wondering if anyone could recommend me some which are good for physics? No preferences at this stage other than not being interested in the "super traditional" ones where people walk round in robes etc..
Reply 2075
Original post by greenwhale
Hi. I'm applying for physics and am going to have a look around a few tommorow.

Obviously I've done some research already but wondering if anyone could recommend me some which are good for physics? No preferences at this stage other than not being interested in the "super traditional" ones where people walk round in robes etc..


You obviously haven't done very much research if you think there are still colleges where people wander around in robes. :lolwut:
Keble always has a lot of Physics students, is literally directly opposite the department and isn't super old. "Robe" wearing won't really vary from college to college much. People wear gowns for specific reasons (i.e. formal hall or a couple academic things that don't happen very often), not for giggles.
(edited 12 years ago)
Original post by sandrawr
Hi,
I'm an international applicant from Australia and have not had a chance to visit any of the colleges! (I vaguely remember driving through Oxford a few years ago on a trip to London haha, not very helpful, only recall stone buildings.) ANYWAY, I've somehow narrowed my list down to these:
Brasenose
Exeter
Magdalen
Merton
University
I'm not sure why but the last three seem to appeal a lot to me, and I don't know how to choose from this point in! If it helps I'm applying to study PPE.
If anyone has any suggestions/advice (not just for colleges!) please share! Thanks (:
Also, I've heard some colleges are more philosophy focused and such, is this true?! And if so, are any of mine? Wouldn't this sway the type of questions asked at interviews?! LOTS OF QUESTIONS, SORRY!


I don't think I'm of very much help to you as I'm only starting at Brasenose next month but some criteria you can consider are:

1) Location. Especially with regards to accomodation. Brasenose has wonderfully central accomodation for all three years in that regard - the college itself is on Radcliffe Square and the Annexe is also in central Oxford, next to the Oxford Union. I'm not sure about the other colleges though (I think Magdalen also provides accomodation for all three years on-site/ nearby)
2) Costs. Rents and meal prices can vary across colleges.
3) Facilities (eg kitchens, en-suites). Again, ditto 2).
4) Size of the college. From your list, Merton is the smallest while Magdalen is the largest in terms of undergraduate population size, while the remaining colleges are somewhere in between, with minimal difference between them.
5) Architecture/ Physical grounds. Have a look at http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/oxfordtour/tours.html and http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/oxfordtour/

I'm not a PPEist so unfortunately, I can't help you there. My friends who applied for PPE were interviewed by tutors from all three subjects though and I don't think they mentioned that the questions were particularly skewed towards a particular subject. As PPE is a Joint Honours course, I imagine the tutors want to see that you demonstrate aptitude in all three subjects! (See http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate_courses/international_students/information_for_international_applicants/frequent.html). In short, no, I doubt that the interviews will have a significant philosophy slant.

I'm not sure what other advice/suggestions you're looking for so if you have any specific areas you want to know more about, feel free to quote or PM me. :smile: Good luck!
Original post by ADayInTheLife
"Robe" wearing won't really vary from college to college much. People wear gowns for specific reasons (i.e. formal hall or a couple academic things that don't happen very often), not for giggles.


Actually the amount of gown wearing varies quite a lot between colleges - some colleges require gowns at formals and some don't. Some of the colleges with gowned formals have them very frequently; others less so. You could need a gown everything from several times a week to only during exams and matriculation. That strikes me as a significant variation.

In answer to OP's original question, my bias is always towards Somerville - no gown wearing at formals, loads of physicists, really friendly and relaxed. But then I am completely biased towards my own College, as most people at Oxford are, which is itself a good sign.
Thanks for the replies , finding this to be a real headache. For physics can anyone give me an idea of how the ability level varies at the colleges? How many should only be applied to if you are a really something special (being able to do decently in the Maths and Physics Olympiads in my books)?

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