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OK guys, I've narrowed it down to Brasenose and Hertford. Kind of swaying towards Brasenose but can anyone sway me?
Original post by groovyd97
OK guys, I've narrowed it down to Brasenose and Hertford. Kind of swaying towards Brasenose but can anyone sway me?


Brasenose has central accommodation for the whole course :biggrin:
Original post by fluteflute
Brasenose has central accommodation for the whole course :biggrin:


Original post by groovyd97
OK guys, I've narrowed it down to Brasenose and Hertford. Kind of swaying towards Brasenose but can anyone sway me?


I'm with fluteflute on this one. We definitely best Hertford in terms of how central our undergraduate accommodation is :biggrin: Hertford, if I recall correctly, has further out annexes.
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Original post by admissionshost
Across Oxford, about 15% of UK students declare as ethnic minorities. This is an under-estimate since some of the unknowns are also minorities (ethnicity is a self-reported measure). I don't think there's much variation among the colleges. Probably in most it is nearer to 1 in 5 than 3 in 20.


With respect, your comment about under-estimates is only true if the proportion of ethnic minorities amongst the unknowns is greater than 15%.

Let us say there are 12,000 students of whom 10%, 1,200 do not declare an ethnicity at all. Of the 10,800 who do, 15% or 1620 declare that they are from an ethnic minority.

If 5% of that 1,200 are really from an ethnic minority, then the true number of ethnic minority students is 1680. 1680 as a percentage of 12,000 is 14%. The estimate of 15% is an over-estimate rather than an under-estimate.

Only if the proportion of ethnic minority students amongst the unknowns is greater than that in the known population will it be the other way around.

1 in 5 is 20%. 3 in 20 is 15%. On my figures (and the true current figures for undergraduates are 11,772 but the figure of 10% non-responding is entirely invented by me and so these are purely illustrations and not the actual figures) to increase the total percentage of ethnic minority students from 15% to 20%, 780 of the 1200 unknowns, 65%, have to be from an ethnic minority.

I think that is highly implausible.
Original post by groovyd97
OK guys, I've narrowed it down to Brasenose and Hertford. Kind of swaying towards Brasenose but can anyone sway me?


Which college has better scarf colours?
Gotta consider the big things
Original post by Aniaaa
I would greatly appreciate some advice. I am 21' and I am applying for Law. I have a baby, so will be asking for university accommodation not a college one, should I be given an offer. I would like a small or average sized student community, with a possibility of financial grants from my college. I was thinking about Balliol. Does anybody have other suggestions? Any advice?


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Original post by Aniaaa
I posted in the wrong topic. sorry.


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I've moved your post into the Choosing a College thread :smile:
Most colleges have the option of Formal Hall ("Formals") twice a week. Typically these are popular events and the JCRs (the Junior Common Rooms) tend to try and hold more
evening events in the various Halls tied to dinners (eg Burns Night, Chinese New Year, Halloween, Half-Way Hall &c &c). In other words, the colleges by & large stick with this tradition because
students like dress-up! It is perfectly possible never to go to a Formal if you don't want to - the colleges will offer a cafeteria option earlier in the evening every night. Usually you can
take your tray into the main Hall and eat with friends there - a few places have the cafeteria separate from the main Hall, depending on kitchen layouts. In the summer you can also
generally take your tray outside and eat in the Quads (ie on the lawns). Same goes for breakfast and lunch. Gowns are also worn for University Exams - as part of 'sub fusc' - and
again the main reason for this is student demand: a vote was held a few years ago to abolish sub fusc but a large majority opted to keep the tradition. Gowns are also worn when you
meet the Principal and Senior Tutor once a year - but usually you can borrow from friends (the JCRs sometimes provide spares) if you forgot where your gown is. Gowns are not needed
for the Freshers Dinners but if you ace your first public exam and get made a Scholar you'll need one for the Scholars Dinner.
Original post by nulli tertius
With respect, your comment about under-estimates is only true if the proportion of ethnic minorities amongst the unknowns is greater than 15%.

Let us say there are 12,000 students of whom 10%, 1,200 do not declare an ethnicity at all. Of the 10,800 who do, 15% or 1620 declare that they are from an ethnic minority.

If 5% of that 1,200 are really from an ethnic minority, then the true number of ethnic minority students is 1680. 1680 as a percentage of 12,000 is 14%. The estimate of 15% is an over-estimate rather than an under-estimate.

Only if the proportion of ethnic minority students amongst the unknowns is greater than that in the known population will it be the other way around.

1 in 5 is 20%. 3 in 20 is 15%. On my figures (and the true current figures for undergraduates are 11,772 but the figure of 10% non-responding is entirely invented by me and so these are purely illustrations and not the actual figures) to increase the total percentage of ethnic minority students from 15% to 20%, 780 of the 1200 unknowns, 65%, have to be from an ethnic minority.

I think that is highly implausible.




Thanks for this interesting response. I agree that the assumption that the missings include at least 15% has to hold and partly agree with your 65% estimate since 10% is close to the non-response figure.

Oxford Admissions report that the proportion of all students of known ethnicity who are black & minority ethnic is 24% (including all post grads and undergrads) and the proportion of UK undergrads as 13% using the most recent data:
http://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/admissions-statistics/ethnic-origin

There are three reasons why 13% probably represents a minimum. The first is that the definition of 'UK undergraduate' excludes any UK citizen liable for international fees owing to being domiciled overseas. Ethnicity may be a predictor of being domiciled abroad. The second reason is the unknowns: ethnicity is unlikely to be missing completely at random and is probably related to the missing value itself.
The third reason is that there are many reasons why an individual self-identifies as being of a particular ethnicity and all of the categories, including 'white British', will have measurement error.




Original post by Aniaaa
I would greatly appreciate some advice. I am 21' and I am applying for Law. I have a baby, so will be asking for university accommodation not a college one, should I be given an offer. I would like a small or average sized student community, with a possibility of financial grants from my college. I was thinking about Balliol. Does anybody have other suggestions? Any advice?


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One option for you might be Harris Manchester since this college specialises in mature students. I would suggest making an appointment to discuss your accommodation needs with Balliol (or whichever college you opt for) - they should be happy to meet to show various room options that can help you decide.
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Hello!
I'm currently in the middle of my application for medicine and can't quite decide which college I would like to go to. I live in France so I don't really have the opportunity to go and visit, which would have been a good way of finding out which college to choose... Could you give me more insight on these colleges: Keble, Balliol, Wadham, Worcester, and New? (I've read everything on their websites, but I thought you guys would be able to tell me more!)
Thank you!
Original post by raph.
Hello!
I'm currently in the middle of my application for medicine and can't quite decide which college I would like to go to. I live in France so I don't really have the opportunity to go and visit, which would have been a good way of finding out which college to choose... Could you give me more insight on these colleges: Keble, Balliol, Wadham, Worcester, and New? (I've read everything on their websites, but I thought you guys would be able to tell me more!)
Thank you!


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Original post by raph.
Hello!
I'm currently in the middle of my application for medicine and can't quite decide which college I would like to go to. I live in France so I don't really have the opportunity to go and visit, which would have been a good way of finding out which college to choose... Could you give me more insight on these colleges: Keble, Balliol, Wadham, Worcester, and New? (I've read everything on their websites, but I thought you guys would be able to tell me more!)
Thank you!


What do you want to know about, and what is most important to you about a college?
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Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
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I mean, hello :ninja:

What would you like to know about exactly? I can help on Woosta :h:


Ahaha guessing you're at Worcester then! Well the student life interests me, because I've read up on academics already, like if there's some kind of integration for freshers and just the vibe in general. Also it's proximity to science facilities? I'm guessing that's where I'll be spending most of my time
Original post by raph.
Ahaha guessing you're at Worcester then! Well the student life interests me, because I've read up on academics already, like if there's some kind of integration for freshers and just the vibe in general. Also it's proximity to science facilities? I'm guessing that's where I'll be spending most of my time :tongue:


I was at Worcester from 2007-2010 :yep: :shakecane: :rave:

Student life is great! There's lots going on, from sports to music to drama to religious-based socs, to religious debating socs (where you don't have to be religious to attend)... everything! Worcester is particularly noteworthy for the first three. The drama society, Buskins, is really good (and filthy rich!) and there is good Blues representation at Worcester in sports. Worcester has arguably the best mixed-voice chapel choir in Oxford and there's a music society with a college orchestra and secular choir.

We're known as a work-reasonably-hard-party-very-hard college. That's our general rep. We don't usually do THAT well in the Norrington table, though this year we made the top 3-4 IIRC! :eek3: The college is physically big enough that you can be as known or unknown as you like. As in, if you want to know everyone in your year, that is more than possible... but if (like me) you prefer to remain anonymous to most people, that is very doable too!

Proximity to most of the science areas is very close. It's a long way from the JR Hospital and Warneford if you're a medic (but then so are most colleges!) but is close to engineering, chemistry, physics, etc :yes:

As with all other colleges, there is a Freshers' Week for new/incoming students and (I believe) some kinda orientation programme for international students, or at least the Junior Year Abroad students from the US colleges. There's a mixture of alcohol-based and teetotal-based Freshers' events to get involved with :yes:

Any other questions or for more clarification, just let me know :smile:
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Original post by pak1994
What do you want to know about, and what is most important to you about a college?


What's important to me in a college would be its proximity to science facilities, its student life, and a really diverse community. Also a library open all hours but I'm pretty sure I can find that out online! Basically, I would like to see the colleges from current students' point of views :smile: It's hard to determine what a college is like solely from it's website...
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Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
I was at Worcester from 2007-2010 :yep: :shakecane: :rave:

Student life is great! There's lots going on, from sports to music to drama to religious-based socs, to religious debating socs (where you don't have to be religious to attend)... everything! Worcester is particularly noteworthy for the first three. The drama society, Buskins, is really good (and filthy rich!) and there is good Blues representation at Worcester in sports. Worcester has arguably the best mixed-voice chapel choir in Oxford and there's a music society with a college orchestra and secular choir.

We're known as a work-reasonably-hard-party-very-hard college. That's our general rep. We don't usually do THAT well in the Norrington table, though this year we made the top 3-4 IIRC! :eek3: The college is physically big enough that you can be as known or unknown as you like. As in, if you want to know everyone in your year, that is more than possible... but if (like me) you prefer to remain anonymous to most people, that is very doable too!

Proximity to most of the science areas is very close. It's a long way from the JR Hospital and Warneford if you're a medic (but then so are most colleges!) but is close to engineering, chemistry, physics, etc :yes:

As with all other colleges, there is a Freshers' Week for new/incoming students and (I believe) some kinda orientation programme for international students, or at least the Junior Year Abroad students from the US colleges. There's a mixture of alcohol-based and teetotal-based Freshers' events to get involved with :yes:

Any other questions or for more clarification, just let me know :smile:


From what you're saying, it seems really fun!!! Too bad it's a bit far from the the medic facilities but I'm sure a good walk never hurt anyone :h: Thank you for all that info, I especially like that it's both quite work-related but also known for partying (always good to know).

Are there students from many different backgrounds? (I might be the odd one out, the little frenchie :tongue: )

I'm so happy it's noteworthy for music and sports because I was scared that I might not be able to continue football and piano or at least give up one of them. So yay, thank you for that as well!!

First time posting on here so I'm happy to have stumbled on someone as nice as you :smile:
Original post by raph.
From what you're saying, it seems really fun!!! Too bad it's a bit far from the the medic facilities but I'm sure a good walk never hurt anyone :h: Thank you for all that info, I especially like that it's both quite work-related but also known for partying (always good to know).

Are there students from many different backgrounds? (I might be the odd one out, the little frenchie :tongue: )

I'm so happy it's noteworthy for music and sports because I was scared that I might not be able to continue football and piano or at least give up one of them. So yay, thank you for that as well!!

First time posting on here so I'm happy to have stumbled on someone as nice as you :smile:


You'd have to take a bus to the JR I think even St Hilda's (which would be the closest college to them) students have to do that! Worcester is def really fun, I'd thoroughly recommend it. You can definitely continue football (whether that's Blues level or just mucking around 5th division level) and there is a music practice house with pianos in, so you can def continue that too! Apply for an instrumental scholarship if you get there and are Grade 8 or beyond on piano - then you get free money and a swooshie scholar's gown :gah:

You wouldn't be the odd one out at all - a mix of international students (especially Americans but there were students from France in my year as well!) and home students :smile: Obviously it's more home than international students but everyone gets along very nicely indeed :smile: There's a good atmosphere in College :smile:

No worries - happy to help! If you ever have any more questions, especially about music societies and provisions, you can PM me :h:
Original post by raph.
What's important to me in a college would be its proximity to science facilities, its student life, and a really diverse community. Also a library open all hours but I'm pretty sure I can find that out online! Basically, I would like to see the colleges from current students' point of views :smile: It's hard to determine what a college is like solely from it's website...


Well I can tell you that New College is about a 10 minute walk from the Medical Sciences Teaching Centre where a lot of medic lectures take place (I know as my first year Psychology lectures were all there) and I believe that area is also where a lot of the medics spend their hours. The only downside of that is that you have to walk past Mansfield to get there, which is tough when you're hungry and you can just smell the food that they are prepping for lunch... :frown:
Our library isn't open 24 hours a day, but 8-12, although this upcoming JCR Academic Affairs rep wants to prolong this around exam time I believe. I personally don't see this as a problem, but then again I don't really work in the library (although last term I discovered that it is a nice place to work, and especially useful the day before a deadline to prevent too much procrastination which I usually do far too much of... :redface: )

I would say the student life is really good - there is so much that you can get involved in (although if I'm honest this would probably be the same of all colleges, shhh.... :tongue: ) When we first arrived there was a New College freshers fair as well as the student union one, so you really can get involved with whatever you want. Also, I really like our porters - which is really important as you will probably be seeing a lot of them (especially if you are like one of my friends who locks herself out of her room all of the time).
Personally I like New College because it is really central but also quite well hidden - you can really easily get to places without having a completely busy road like the high street straight outside. Plus, we have the Harry Potter tree and a mound that when you clap in front of it it squeaks - who could want any more! :P :wink:

In terms of sports and music - I have a friend who plays a lot of football (at New College), and I know that each Trinity term (3rd term) there is after-tea footie where they just go for relaxed matches after dinner. We recently purchased the official Rio football for about £100... so football is popular (it was put forward as a JCR motion and no one objected)! There is also a woman's football team which I know one of my friends has played for from time to time. With music, as at Worcester if you are of a certain standard (at least grade 8 I believe) then you can get a music scholarship I think - I remember getting an email about it at the beginning of first year.

The good thing about Oxford is that chances are you will actually end up loving whichever college you end up at (but New College is best, of course :bigsmile: )
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Hi i want to apply to baliol college for medicine but couldnt make the open day to check out the accomodation or library which i care most about in a college, has anyone seen these? Thanks!
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Original post by pak1994
Well I can tell you that New College is about a 10 minute walk from the Medical Sciences Teaching Centre where a lot of medic lectures take place (I know as my first year Psychology lectures were all there) and I believe that area is also where a lot of the medics spend their hours. The only downside of that is that you have to walk past Mansfield to get there, which is tough when you're hungry and you can just smell the food that they are prepping for lunch... :frown:
Our library isn't open 24 hours a day, but 8-12, although this upcoming JCR Academic Affairs rep wants to prolong this around exam time I believe. I personally don't see this as a problem, but then again I don't really work in the library (although last term I discovered that it is a nice place to work, and especially useful the day before a deadline to prevent too much procrastination which I usually do far too much of... :redface: )

I would say the student life is really good - there is so much that you can get involved in (although if I'm honest this would probably be the same of all colleges, shhh.... :tongue: ) When we first arrived there was a New College freshers fair as well as the student union one, so you really can get involved with whatever you want. Also, I really like our porters - which is really important as you will probably be seeing a lot of them (especially if you are like one of my friends who locks herself out of her room all of the time).
Personally I like New College because it is really central but also quite well hidden - you can really easily get to places without having a completely busy road like the high street straight outside. Plus, we have the Harry Potter tree and a mound that when you clap in front of it it squeaks - who could want any more! :P :wink:

In terms of sports and music - I have a friend who plays a lot of football (at New College), and I know that each Trinity term (3rd term) there is after-tea footie where they just go for relaxed matches after dinner. We recently purchased the official Rio football for about £100... so football is popular (it was put forward as a JCR motion and no one objected)! There is also a woman's football team which I know one of my friends has played for from time to time. With music, as at Worcester if you are of a certain standard (at least grade 8 I believe) then you can get a music scholarship I think - I remember getting an email about it at the beginning of first year.

The good thing about Oxford is that chances are you will actually end up loving whichever college you end up at (but New College is best, of course :bigsmile: )


Oh good! I thought all colleges were pretty far from the medical centers, but smelling food on your way to class is horrible hahaha :argh:

I hope JCR will be able to get it open all hours, because that is so useful, whether for late papers/research or just revision (I agree with you, it is so distracting to work in your room, there's just so much incentive to procrastinate compared to the library where everyone is working).

Yay for freshers' fair! I'm so scared of being all alone the first few days, so anything freshers related is music to my ears :bigsmile: What exactly do the porters do? We don't have them at my school, we just waltz in and out... Although the more nice people there are, the better!

It seems like an amazing location and hehehehehe Harry Potter tree, now that I like!! I didn't even know that! They should put that and the squeaking mound on the website, everyone would apply :clap2:

Oh wow, it's great that there's so much enthusiasm for football, I abolutely love that sport. And after-tea footie? That sounds awesome (sorry for sounding american :tongue: ) It also seems like there's a really good team spirit (Rio ball haha)

Yes, I have heard that everyone ends up loving their college anyway, it's just that these few really appealed to me and I wanted to know more about them :h: I also don't really want to do an open application...

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