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is Oriel's choir good?
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Original post by desy.kris
is Oriel's choir good?


As far as I know, they're reasonably good. For mixed choirs, I believe the best are Worcester, Queens and Merton, and then Oriel are not far behind. I may be wrong though.
Hey all, after working at the open days last week I decided I wanted to write something about choosing a college, since so many hundreds of people asked me questions about it! Since I've just noticed this thread (i'm really observant!) I thought some of you might want to read it to.

http://socyberty.com/education/choosing-a-college-at-oxford-university/

Hope it helps, feel free to send any questions my way. :smile:
Original post by ClaireHogben
Hey all, after working at the open days last week I decided I wanted to write something about choosing a college, since so many hundreds of people asked me questions about it! Since I've just noticed this thread (i'm really observant!) I thought some of you might want to read it to.

http://socyberty.com/education/choosing-a-college-at-oxford-university/

Hope it helps, feel free to send any questions my way. :smile:


Gave it a quick read - is it finished? The 'further considerations (important bit!!)' section has only e 1 sub-title (location)?

I'd very much disagree with "...perhaps most importantly, they have different (academic and social) reputations..." - they are almost all just silly stereotypes with only vague hints of truth. I mean, Brasenose is stereotypically tory private-schooled posh people. Would you want potential applicants to base their decision on that?

Also, the location point has no mention of potential off-site accommodation. I mean, Exeter etc are very central, but in second year you are forced to go live in private accommodation which will likely be even further away that the furthest colleges. This is a particularly important point as its something applicants are very likely to overlook.
Reply 1944
I'm hoping to be a 1st year PPEist at Oxford but i'm not really sure which college to go for (i've got a few idea), what I do know is that the social life is going to be a big factor in deciding which college to go to. When I say social life I mean alot of partying, club nights and pub quizzes etc etc. I've been trawling tsr for this kind of info but I've only really got general statement i.e "Brasenose is dull" (you get the idea). Any Oxford students can you please tell me what social life is like in your college please. Particularly Trinity, Exeter, New, Magdalen, Brasenose, St Edmunds Hall students (i dont ask for much :wink: ) but all are welcome as these are just general colleges which i kind of like but I'm not sure which college to apply for yet. In advance thank you for any responces :biggrin:
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Original post by nexttime
Gave it a quick read - is it finished? The 'further considerations (important bit!!)' section has only e 1 sub-title (location)?

I'd very much disagree with "...perhaps most importantly, they have different (academic and social) reputations..." - they are almost all just silly stereotypes with only vague hints of truth. I mean, Brasenose is stereotypically tory private-schooled posh people. Would you want potential applicants to base their decision on that?

Also, the location point has no mention of potential off-site accommodation. I mean, Exeter etc are very central, but in second year you are forced to go live in private accommodation which will likely be even further away that the furthest colleges. This is a particularly important point as its something applicants are very likely to overlook.



There's a second page :wink:
And yes, I agree with you about the reputation - the article goes into more detail on that near the end. I definitely don't encourage people to apply based on reputation, and I state clearly how it's 99% rumour, but at the same time I think we have to accept the fact that people consider it when applying, however much they shouldn't.

Another reader has also mentioned the off-site accommodation, and thanks for pointing it out. Yes, it is a big oversight and I can't believe I missed that while writing! I'll submit the edit this evening :smile:
Reply 1946
Original post by ClaireHogben
There's a second page :wink:
And yes, I agree with you about the reputation - the article goes into more detail on that near the end. I definitely don't encourage people to apply based on reputation, and I state clearly how it's 99% rumour, but at the same time I think we have to accept the fact that people consider it when applying, however much they shouldn't.

Another reader has also mentioned the off-site accommodation, and thanks for pointing it out. Yes, it is a big oversight and I can't believe I missed that while writing! I'll submit the edit this evening :smile:


I'm just upset that you haven't pointed out that Merton is actually the oldest college, and Univ and Balliol just like to make things up.
Original post by ClaireHogben
There's a second page :wink:
And yes, I agree with you about the reputation - the article goes into more detail on that near the end. I definitely don't encourage people to apply based on reputation, and I state clearly how it's 99% rumour, but at the same time I think we have to accept the fact that people consider it when applying, however much they shouldn't.

Another reader has also mentioned the off-site accommodation, and thanks for pointing it out. Yes, it is a big oversight and I can't believe I missed that while writing! I'll submit the edit this evening :smile:


Ah yes :colondollar: The beginning of the article still seems to encourage using reputations though, as i read it.

Also about the Norrington table... there are a lot of factors involved in the table. Colleges with more science students do better simply because more 1sts are given out in the sciences, and then tutorial provision, welfare provision can impact on results... its not the black-and white academic environment (whatever that is) vs laid-back environment as you seem to portray (at least from my experience). Certainly, mentioning Harris Manchester as bottom is not really warranted given it only takes over 21s so is hardly normal! Its also very subject-dependent... Hertford's medics seemed to be pushed a lot academically based on people i've spoken to, whereas the college overall is not high on the Norrington table and indeed the college has something of the opposite reputation.

The correct advice is given at the end though - ask a student!
Original post by ClaireHogben
Hey all, after working at the open days last week I decided I wanted to write something about choosing a college, since so many hundreds of people asked me questions about it! Since I've just noticed this thread (i'm really observant!) I thought some of you might want to read it to.

http://socyberty.com/education/choosing-a-college-at-oxford-university/

Hope it helps, feel free to send any questions my way. :smile:


Interesting and generally very good - two very minor questions/quibbles:

Are there any colleges that are undergraduate only, i.e. don't admit postgrads? I'm struggling to think of an example.

Does All Souls admit any undergraduates? It's mentioned along with Blackfriars as having a very small intake but isn't it fellows only? It's not listed among the colleges for undergrads at http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate_courses/colleges/index.html

I know I'm being picky and I may be wrong but I thought it might improve the article further if these were picked up.
Original post by astro67
Are there any colleges that are undergraduate only, i.e. don't admit postgrads? I'm struggling to think of an example.
Nope. (If so it's not mentioned on the Oxford website anyway...)
Original post by astro67
Interesting and generally very good - two very minor questions/quibbles:

Are there any colleges that are undergraduate only, i.e. don't admit postgrads? I'm struggling to think of an example.

Does All Souls admit any undergraduates? It's mentioned along with Blackfriars as having a very small intake but isn't it fellows only? It's not listed among the colleges for undergrads at http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate_courses/colleges/index.html

I know I'm being picky and I may be wrong but I thought it might improve the article further if these were picked up.


All Souls is fellows only. It's not really a 'college' as you would think of it, more like 'a place where the fellows hang out'. :wink:
Reply 1951
I think Bezzler had tutes at All Souls but certainly it doesn't admit undergraduates.

crewm
I'm hoping to be a 1st year PPEist at Oxford but i'm not really sure which college to go for (i've got a few idea), what I do know is that the social life is going to be a big factor in deciding which college to go to. When I say social life I mean alot of partying, club nights and pub quizzes etc etc. I've been trawling tsr for this kind of info but I've only really got general statement i.e "Brasenose is dull" (you get the idea). Any Oxford students can you please tell me what social life is like in your college please. Particularly Trinity, Exeter, New, Magdalen, Brasenose, St Edmunds Hall students (i dont ask for much ) but all are welcome as these are just general colleges which i kind of like but I'm not sure which college to apply for yet. In advance thank you for any responces


Your social life will to a large extent be determined by the particular cohort you join with, so in that respect we can't tell you what it's going to be like. You'll be more likely to find people to do a wide range of things with if you're at a larger college.
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Reply 1952
Original post by BJack
I think Bezzler had tutes at All Souls but certainly it doesn't admit undergraduates.


That I did! It was awesome :biggrin: But yeah, it only takes fellows, and you have to be super-amazing at everything to get in (they take one or two per year, maximum).
Original post by crew.m
I'm hoping to be a 1st year PPEist at Oxford but i'm not really sure which college to go for (i've got a few idea), what I do know is that the social life is going to be a big factor in deciding which college to go to. When I say social life I mean alot of partying, club nights and pub quizzes etc etc. I've been trawling tsr for this kind of info but I've only really got general statement i.e "Brasenose is dull" (you get the idea). Any Oxford students can you please tell me what social life is like in your college please. Particularly Trinity, Exeter, New, Magdalen, Brasenose, St Edmunds Hall students (i dont ask for much :wink: ) but all are welcome as these are just general colleges which i kind of like but I'm not sure which college to apply for yet. In advance thank you for any responces :biggrin:


All undergrad colleges will have a contingent of dedicated club-goers. There isn't really any specific info to be had with regards to that. The richer JCRs will be able to provide more free alcohol and put on more entz events, although that's hardly the only opportunity for parties and totally separate from club nights!
Original post by crew.m
I'm hoping to be a 1st year PPEist at Oxford but i'm not really sure which college to go for (i've got a few idea), what I do know is that the social life is going to be a big factor in deciding which college to go to. When I say social life I mean alot of partying, club nights and pub quizzes etc etc. I've been trawling tsr for this kind of info but I've only really got general statement i.e "Brasenose is dull" (you get the idea). Any Oxford students can you please tell me what social life is like in your college please. Particularly Trinity, Exeter, New, Magdalen, Brasenose, St Edmunds Hall students (i dont ask for much :wink: ) but all are welcome as these are just general colleges which i kind of like but I'm not sure which college to apply for yet. In advance thank you for any responces :biggrin:


I'm a Brasenose student :smile:
And it is most definitely not dull. As people have said, as with anywhere you'll get people who love clubbing and going out, and people who don't. That's not just with colleges, that's with life. But almost any club night in Oxford, especially in the first term, tends to have a Brasenose contingent. A particular favourite at the moment is Camera, on Tuesdays and Fridays, but it varies from term to term and what's good at the time. Since everyone in the year pretty much knows each other (and an awful lot of people from other years), you're basically guaranteed to see another Brasenose face out. I imagine this is probably the same for a lot of college, but I can say it for us.
Quiz nights, we've done a few down the bar and they've been really fun, plus a few of us have been a couple of times to the pub quiz at Far From the Madding Crowd, which is a nearby pub, and Magdalen have an alternative quiz which is open to anyone from any college.
Also our bops are awesome, usually we have a few hours in the bar (last time with jelly shots and free uv paint), then went to Babylove which is a club literally just across the road, which was hired out and decorated just for us, plus some free shots there. So good!

So basically, BNC is awesome.
Reply 1955
Hi

I am looking to study maths at Oxford in 2013. Which are the colleges with good reputation/ lots of places for maths? ALso any which might be better for international students (i'm from australia)

thanks
Original post by tuesday91
I'm a Brasenose student :smile:
And it is most definitely not dull. As people have said, as with anywhere you'll get people who love clubbing and going out, and people who don't. That's not just with colleges, that's with life. But almost any club night in Oxford, especially in the first term, tends to have a Brasenose contingent. A particular favourite at the moment is Camera, on Tuesdays and Fridays, but it varies from term to term and what's good at the time. Since everyone in the year pretty much knows each other (and an awful lot of people from other years), you're basically guaranteed to see another Brasenose face out. I imagine this is probably the same for a lot of college, but I can say it for us.
Quiz nights, we've done a few down the bar and they've been really fun, plus a few of us have been a couple of times to the pub quiz at Far From the Madding Crowd, which is a nearby pub, and Magdalen have an alternative quiz which is open to anyone from any college.
Also our bops are awesome, usually we have a few hours in the bar (last time with jelly shots and free uv paint), then went to Babylove which is a club literally just across the road, which was hired out and decorated just for us, plus some free shots there. So good!

So basically, BNC is awesome.


I concur with everything she says :P
Also, if you got there early enough, "some" free shots was an understatement.
I have a few in consideration but I have no clue which one to pick! Some help would be appreciated. I stayed over for a residential at St Edmund Hall but it was very small for my liking although I still loved it. Next door Queen's seemed absolutely brilliant as well. I haven't actually seen Christ Church but I love the really large colleges and the large dining halls. I wasn't able to visit many other colleges due to time restraints.

So in summary I'm considering

St Edmund Hall
The Queen's college
Christ Church
(and also Brasenose maybe)

But I have no idea which one to apply to!
Original post by Insanity514
I have a few in consideration but I have no clue which one to pick! Some help would be appreciated. I stayed over for a residential at St Edmund Hall but it was very small for my liking although I still loved it. Next door Queen's seemed absolutely brilliant as well. I haven't actually seen Christ Church but I love the really large colleges and the large dining halls. I wasn't able to visit many other colleges due to time restraints.

So in summary I'm considering

St Edmund Hall
The Queen's college
Christ Church
(and also Brasenose maybe)

But I have no idea which one to apply to!


Have you taken a look at the prospectus and alternative prospectus? College websites? What kinds of things were you looking for? What did you love about Teddy Hall? If you're looking for big grand colleges, maybe take a look at Magdalen and New?
Original post by ClaireHogben
I concur with everything she says :P
Also, if you got there early enough, "some" free shots was an understatement.


Haha yes, by free shots here it should be read "literally having alcohol poured down your throat"

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