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Reply 1
Do u mean the physics part or the maths part? I had a look at some past papers, and the physics questions seemed pretty basic, although the maths questions looked a bit more unfamiliar and were put in quite a different context to my A levels.
Reply 2
its the other way round for me, i find the maths really simple, but the physics questions were really different to what i've been studying.
Reply 3
I don't know what books to use but I do have some advice.
the most limiting factor won't be what you know but how much time you have. I would suggest going trough one paper not looking at time and seeing what you need to revise, then try another paper with real conditions.
be careful the sample and 2008 papers are relatively easy compared to the 2006 and 2007 ones, expect the worst.
you need to know every formula and every constant don't forget that.
Allocate your time carefully I tried to give myself a minute a point (very hard to hold) but ****** up the first 40 minutes (had only done 14 points worth of exercices). I was uncapable to sketch a triangle (exercice 24 2008) I was so stressed :eek: moral : don't panic
also train mental arithmetic or you're screwed.
the physics part you should do algeabricly first, to minimize time losing calculations :yep:
if you have any questions don't hesitate
Reply 4
thanks, i always assume the worst case scenario, i've just printed off the syllabus, and the maths section is really simple, and i'll have to do a bit of studying for the physics. i'm surprised that you say 2008 is the easiest, i've generelly found with my as subjects, the papers get harder.
Reply 5
zafaru123
thanks, i always assume the worst case scenario, i've just printed off the syllabus, and the maths section is really simple, and i'll have to do a bit of studying for the physics. i'm surprised that you say 2008 is the easiest, i've generelly found with my as subjects, the papers get harder.

well that's what I thought 2007 seemed hardest to me.
the average grade agrees with me.
and yes the actual content isn't that difficult time is your biggest problem.
that's different at interviews you get new stuff you've never seen :eek: I had to calculate how many photons per second you would have to shoot at a mass to keep it in the air. and you've got the ttime pressur then aswell :eek3:
Reply 6
I'd be interested in this too.. Nice to see another potential Oxford Physics applicant here :biggrin:
Reply 7
my teacher was telling me how they'll give a question to you, which you have never seen in your life, so not knwoing what to do is quite bad, could that possibly wreck your chances of getting in.
Reply 8
zafaru123
my teacher was telling me how they'll give a question to you, which you have never seen in your life, so not knwoing what to do is quite bad, could that possibly wreck your chances of getting in.

well they gave me the theorie I needed and then they asked me to find an answer to a question I had never seen.
also they will ask questions about things you know but in totally diferent shapes from what you've seen. and then they look at how you go about answering it
Physics Olympiad past papers are probably your best bet. There should be nothing on the Physics papers which are not in the A-level syllabus or any additional learning required. It's physics which is familiar to you applied to new situations.
Reply 10
Does anyone know if the syllabus will change, since most A level Physics syllabuses have changed?

I'm assuming it'll stay the same, but just making sure.
Draconis
Does anyone know if the syllabus will change, since most A level Physics syllabuses have changed?

I'm assuming it'll stay the same, but just making sure.

They don't tend to test you on the outer extremeties of obscurity when it comes to these things, because aside from anything they have to accommodate a test which is fair on people from many different exam boards. I don't know how the A-level syllabus has changed but I can't imagine it being that dramatic. The physics papers are normally focused around mechanics, forces, fields and energy etc, which I doubt has been dropped?
Reply 12
F1 fanatic
They don't tend to test you on the outer extremeties of obscurity when it comes to these things, because aside from anything they have to accommodate a test which is fair on people from many different exam boards. I don't know how the A-level syllabus has changed but I can't imagine it being that dramatic. The physics papers are normally focused around mechanics, forces, fields and energy etc, which I doubt has been dropped?

Part of the PAT syllabus is:

Natural world: atomic and nuclear structure; properties of alpha, beta and gamma radiation; half lives. Nuclear fission. Structure of the solar system. Phases of the moon and eclipses. Elementary treatment of circular orbits under gravity including orbital speed, radius, period, centripetal acceleration, and gravitational centripetal force. Satellites; geostationary and polar orbits. Elementary properties of solids, liquids and gases including responses to pressure and temperature.

None of which is in the Edexcel AS specification, and most of it isn't covered until unit 5. I don't know about other exam boards.

Obviously some of it was covered in GCSE, though.
Draconis
Part of the PAT syllabus is:

Natural world: atomic and nuclear structure; properties of alpha, beta and gamma radiation; half lives. Nuclear fission. Structure of the solar system. Phases of the moon and eclipses. Elementary treatment of circular orbits under gravity including orbital speed, radius, period, centripetal acceleration, and gravitational centripetal force. Satellites; geostationary and polar orbits. Elementary properties of solids, liquids and gases including responses to pressure and temperature.

None of which is in the Edexcel AS specification, and most of it isn't covered until unit 5. I don't know about other exam boards.

Obviously some of it was covered in GCSE, though.

Yes, I don't know whether its changed since I did it (obviously it has in many ways) but some of the things you need to know assume knowledge of things you cover in A2 as well as in AS. In fact I was on the AQA syllabus and the big chunk of stuff which makes up most of the interview/paper questions on circular motion, gravity, electromagnetic fields etc was only covered in the autumn term of A2. Again the problem is that different syllabuses will learn things at different times and so you may find that you need to do some additional learning of things from your text book that you would not normally cover until later in A2.
Reply 14
F1 fanatic
Yes, I don't know whether its changed since I did it (obviously it has in many ways) but some of the things you need to know assume knowledge of things you cover in A2 as well as in AS. In fact I was on the AQA syllabus and the big chunk of stuff which makes up most of the interview/paper questions on circular motion, gravity, electromagnetic fields etc was only covered in the autumn term of A2. Again the problem is that different syllabuses will learn things at different times and so you may find that you need to do some additional learning of things from your text book that you would not normally cover until later in A2.

I see, thank you! :smile:
Draconis
I see, thank you! :smile:

I think the best thing to do as I said in my first post is to try past papers (PAT and olympiad when you run out of PAT) and through that you will get a better understanding of what it is that you need to gen up on and learn ahead of schedule, although mechanics and circular motion etc I definitely recommend, you will almost certainly find benefit from learning those areas, while things like the nuclear stuff is less likely I would say.
Reply 16
F1 fanatic
I think the best thing to do as I said in my first post is to try past papers (PAT and olympiad when you run out of PAT) and through that you will get a better understanding of what it is that you need to gen up on and learn ahead of schedule, although mechanics and circular motion etc I definitely recommend, you will almost certainly find benefit from learning those areas, while things like the nuclear stuff is less likely I would say.

Thanks, that's very helpful :smile: