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    argh this is doing my head in; I KNOW that its more accurate to take blood pressure manually than with an obs machine but i can't seem to find any evidence that says it does!!

    Whoever finds me a decent piece will get rep! Or at least give me some good sources of where to look!
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    Linkage- BMJ

    This has a little bit about how accuracy may be lost with age, and how oscillometric techniques aren't always suitable for a particular patient.

    Don't know how much help that is
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    (Original post by Ice_Queen)
    Linkage- BMJ

    This has a little bit about how accuracy may be lost with age, and how oscillometric techniques aren't always suitable for a particular patient.

    Don't know how much help that is

    Yay! I've also found out i have athens too....:woo:
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    Yay! I've also found out i have athens too....:woo:
    Athens is just Awesome. Absolutely Awesome, with a capital A. I don't know how people in universities without it actually cope with their research.

    The BMJ is a pretty good start, if you can delve in enough, and, of course, have access to it for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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    (Original post by Ice_Queen)
    Athens is just Awesome. Absolutely Awesome, with a capital A. I don't know how people in universities without it actually cope with their research.

    The BMJ is a pretty good start, if you can delve in enough, and, of course, have access to it for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

    I never consider the BMJ enough
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    Athens is quite useful.

    Although we learn how to do it manually, we are encouraged to use the machines to do it as the results are more consistent. Ie, you and me both take a BP with it, and it comes out the same, if we do it manually we may define each Korotkoff sound slightly differently, putting the reading out slightly one way or the other.

    Athens is good, that said I would personally try and find your hospital guidines somewhere, there will I'd have thought be a protocol on it they expect you to follow if possible. This should then have references.

    Failing that wiki it, and see who wiki references.
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    http://www.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/307/6896/124-b.pdf

    That could hit the spot

    (putting meta analysis into google, then what you are looking for often works wonders)
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    (Original post by terpineol)
    Athens is quite useful.

    Although we learn how to do it manually, we are encouraged to use the machines to do it as the results are more consistent. Ie, you and me both take a BP with it, and it comes out the same, if we do it manually we may define each Korotkoff sound slightly differently, putting the reading out slightly one way or the other.

    Athens is good, that said I would personally try and find your hospital guidines somewhere, there will I'd have thought be a protocol on it they expect you to follow if possible. This should then have references.

    Failing that wiki it, and see who wiki references.

    Its just needed for a piece of reflection I did, usually if a patient has a high bp/low bp compared to their previous ones (and most patients on my ward are tds/qds) we'd do it manually- im not toooo fussed on the guidelines from the hospital, as i just need to show i used evidence to make a decision (when really i didn't..go 'oh x y and z had good evidence that..therefore..') it just seems to be a common knowledge

    ive got it all sorted now however

    now onto leg ulcers....

    portfolios suck
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    (Original post by terpineol)
    http://www.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/307/6896/124-b.pdf

    That could hit the spot

    (putting meta analysis into google, then what you are looking for often works wonders)

    thanks i'll bare that in mind, i've used the research as evidence aswell as its research and not a review- so i can even write a literature review on them both! :woo: :eek3:


    god nursing is boring at times lol
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    (Original post by anna_spanner89)
    thanks i'll bare that in mind, i've used the research as evidence aswell as its research and not a review- so i can even write a literature review on them both! :woo: :eek3:


    god nursing is boring at times lol
    Yeah, I never did see the attraction.

    Its better then being a madwife though.
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    http://www.amazon.com/Omron-HEM-773A.../dp/B00008IJYS
    not exactly relevant but might be interesting:
    http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-hi...blood-pressure
    http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_ad...odpressure.htm

    this sire might be of use to you:
    http://allnurses.com/cna-nursing-ass...od-309296.html

    http://www.nda.ox.ac.uk/wfsa/html/u11/u1106_01.htm

    this is the best so far:
    http://www.essortment.com/lifestyle/...hmanu_ttfm.htm
    "The main disadvantage of a digital monitor is going to be their cost. Expect to spend anywhere from $100.00 to $200.00 for a good digital monitor."

    http://www.cedrugstorenews.com/usera...3521544CAB6539
    "Manual monitors are typically less expensive than digital monitors, but they are more difficult to use. Manual models also can be conveniently carried around.17 However, a disadvantage is that through moving it around, it can lose its accuracy over time.17 Also, the rubber bulb may be hard for some older patients to squeeze and the hearing-impaired may have a difficult time trying to hear the heart sounds to take the reading.17"

    thats my little googling sesh for ya!
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    (Original post by terpineol)
    Yeah, I never did see the attraction.

    Its better then being a madwife though.

    yeah i went camping with a friend whos a student midwife and she was saying 'breast is best' in her sleep
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    (Original post by raspberryice)
    http://www.amazon.com/Omron-HEM-773A.../dp/B00008IJYS
    not exactly relevant but might be interesting:
    http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-hi...blood-pressure
    http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_ad...odpressure.htm

    this sire might be of use to you:
    http://allnurses.com/cna-nursing-ass...od-309296.html

    http://www.nda.ox.ac.uk/wfsa/html/u11/u1106_01.htm

    this is the best so far:
    http://www.essortment.com/lifestyle/...hmanu_ttfm.htm
    "The main disadvantage of a digital monitor is going to be their cost. Expect to spend anywhere from $100.00 to $200.00 for a good digital monitor."

    http://www.cedrugstorenews.com/usera...3521544CAB6539
    "Manual monitors are typically less expensive than digital monitors, but they are more difficult to use. Manual models also can be conveniently carried around.17 However, a disadvantage is that through moving it around, it can lose its accuracy over time.17 Also, the rubber bulb may be hard for some older patients to squeeze and the hearing-impaired may have a difficult time trying to hear the heart sounds to take the reading.17"

    thats my little googling sesh for ya!
    I really appreciate the time you've spent on this, however 'evidence' is from research papers, journals etc and i also know how to do blood pressure and can take it no problem, its just looking into the reasons why we make decisions to take it differently etc that im interested in from an empiric perspective
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    (Original post by anna_spanner89)
    I really appreciate the time you've spent on this, however 'evidence' is from research papers, journals etc and i also know how to do blood pressure and can take it no problem, its just looking into the reasons why we make decisions to take it differently etc that im interested in from an empiric perspective
    k. fine. it was a crap google anyway.
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    (Original post by raspberryice)
    k. fine. it was a crap google anyway.

    the meaning was there
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    Try these from PubMed:-

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12119797?ordinalpos=1&itool=Entr ezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPan el.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=4 &log$=relatedreviews&logdbfrom=p ubmed

    If you click on related articles you can get more.
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    (Original post by Ataloss)
    Try these from PubMed:-

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12119797?ordinalpos=1&itool=Entr ezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPan el.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=4 &log$=relatedreviews&logdbfrom=p ubmed

    If you click on related articles you can get more.

    ahh cheers! I tried pub med but it always ends up with me going fetal
 
 
 
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