LSE vs. UCL Law School

I am trying to decide between attending LSE and UCL for law (LLB) this fall. Which school is better for someone trying to enter business upon graduation? Would this choice be any different for someone trying to enter law?

Reply 1

Onearmedbandit

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Oh boy. This is gonna be a big thread :smile:

Personally I'd say UCL but I base that judgement on a number of factors besides the reputation of the schools...

Before any LSE’ers say “you’re only saying that cos you’re going to UCL” have some ‘o this: I chose UCL over LSE before I applied! So there :p:

Frankly there's little to choose between the law schools themselves other than the fact that Lord Justice Woolf is coming to teach full time at UCL next year :wink:

A decent degree from either would set you up nicely for life, frankly...

You American? One thing LSE does have is a massive internation reputation (but only because 65% of its students are foreign :rolleyes:

).

Reply 2

Xanthe

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Business upon graduation: go to LSE...there are some great societies for people like you. I can't remember them off the top of my head, but try having a look at their SU website.

Considering the number of prospective UCL lawyers on this forum, I reckon they'll try and convince you otherwise. Are you coming to LSE's Visit Day on Thursday?

Reply 3

Onearmedbandit

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Xanthe

Business upon graduation: go to LSE...there are some great societies for people like you. I can't remember them off the top of my head, but try having a look at their SU website.

Considering the number of prospective UCL lawyers on this forum, I reckon they'll try and convince you otherwise. Are you coming to LSE's Visit Day on Thursday?

Well I'm sure the LSE (and King's!) students will do their best to convince you othewise :wink:

Reply 4

tiantang

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LSE vs. UCL domestically is a very tight call, but LSE just nudges it.

This is seen by the various polls on TSR, the views of quite a few senior TSR members (kingslaw, lawz etc.) and the various overall national league tables.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/t97671.html
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/t88020.html

Internationally,

LSE wins hands down, by a country mile. There is no debate there.

Edit: Though i have no proof of me not being bias. All i can say it that i am beign independant in my views. Prior to uni responses. I only visited 2 unis (Cam, LSE), TSR member ~sam~ would support this, they were my top 2. UCL was 3rd.

Edit2: Whilst TSR members tend to agree that LSE beats UCL in terms of rep as shown in polls. Onearmbandit makes a good point of:

"I base that judgement on a number of factors besides the reputation of the schools..."

The diversity of LSE students, is that a pro or neg for you?
The size, the law departments are the same, but LSE is far smaller overall?
etc

Reply 5

Quiksilver

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fuzzytransition

I am trying to decide between attending LSE and UCL for law (LLB) this fall. Which school is better for someone trying to enter business upon graduation? Would this choice be any different for someone trying to enter law?

You'd be a fool not to accept UCL :wink:

Reply 6

lawgrad

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Onearmedbandit

...other than the fact that Lord Justice Woolf is coming to teach full time at UCL next year ...

That's Lord CHIEF Justice Woolf, if you please! :-P

Reply 7

tiantang

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Thinking of entering business?

In that case, definately LSE.

Reply 8

Quiksilver

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tiantang

This is seen by the various polls on TSR, the views of quite a few senior TSR members (kingslaw, lawz etc.) and the various overall national league tables.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/t97671.html
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/t88020.html

LOL! You and those silly polls.
Check this out for a reliable source, fuzzytransition:
http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2004/table/0,,-4921404,00.html

Reply 9

UCL_Law

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lawgrad

That's Lord CHIEF Justice Woolf, if you please! :-P

Is he actually teaching within the faculty? I thought he was just joining the council.

Reply 10

tiantang

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Quiksilver

LOL! You and those silly polls.
Check this out for a reliable source, fuzzytransition:
http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2004/table/0,,-4921404,00.html

I trust the opinions of TSR, as opposed to Subject league tables which are more volitle than the national ones.

Have you seen the new law league tables for the guardian, 2005?

http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2005/table/0,15905,-5163903,00.html?start=0&index=2&index=2

LSE are thrid, UCL are 14th!

By your admission of reliable source, LSE is far btr than UCL!

In reality, TSR is far btr measure than Subject league tables.

But take your pick, either way LSE wins (but only just according to the LSE vs UCL polls which is why their more accurate.)

Reply 11

UCL_Law

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Sorry, as for the original question: if you want to go into business, then I'd opt for the LSE. If Law, very difficult choice and comes down to personal preference.

Reply 12

lawgrad

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fuzzytransition

I am trying to decide between attending LSE and UCL for law (LLB) this fall. Which school is better for someone trying to enter business upon graduation? Would this choice be any different for someone trying to enter law?

Gosh, don't you guys get tired of this? ;-) Anyway, since I am in a good mood and up for a rant today...

For business, I have no comment but I guess LSE would offer you better exposure to the employers.

If you want to join a top City law firm, then UCL will probably give you an edge. In my year, I personally know 37 people (in a class of 130+) who joined the 'Consortium firms' (the seven best City law firms in the UK). This excludes many, many more who are joining non-Consortium City firms. Sometimes, a few of us even lament that UCL is a 'City lawyer'- producing factory! On the other hand, I personally only know of three in my year joining the Big Four accounting firms, one joining McKinsey and three joining investment banks.

And before anyone attacks me for bias (as I'm sure some would!), this is NOT in any way reflective of the QUALITY of legal education and scholarship that you will get from LSE or UCL. Let me make myself clear: as a former law student, law tutor, and soon-to-be trainee solicitor, I can tell you that UCL and LSE will offer you the same standard and quality of legal education. There are only two slight differences:
1. At UCL, you will have slightly more British coursemates, as opposed to LSE (where there are more international students).
2. UCL will probably be more conducive if you are specifically geared towards looking to be a City lawyer - there are countless presentations, drinks receptions, talks and competitions sponsored by the various City law firms for law students at UCL. Far more than you can attend!

Reply 13

Quiksilver

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tiantang

I trust the opinions of TSR, as opposed to Subject league tables which are more volitle than the national ones.

Have you seen the new law league tables for the guardian, 2005?

http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2005/table/0,15905,-5163903,00.html?start=0&index=2&index=2

LSE are thrid, UCL are 14th!

By your admission of reliable source, LSE is far btr than UCL!

In reality, TSR is far btr measure than Subject league tables.

But take your pick, either way LSE wins (but only just according to the LSE vs UCL polls which is why their more accurate.)

LOL -

The Times Good University guide was always better :wink:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,13425,00.html

Reply 14

tiantang

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Quiksilver

LOL -

The Times Good University guide was always better :wink:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/displayPopup/0,,13425,00.html

I give up, just you wait till the 2005 version comes out. :p:

But yes, atleast we've established that TSR is a far more accurate representative than SUBJECT league tables.

Reply 15

Quiksilver

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tiantang

I give up, just you wait till the 2005 version comes out. :p:

But yes, atleast we've established that TSR is a far more accurate representative than SUBJECT league tables.

How about we stop this pointless argument?
For Law, LSE = UCL :wink:

[Don't get me started on Economics! :| ]

Reply 16

tiantang

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Quiksilver

How about we stop this pointless argument?
For Law, LSE = UCL :wink:

[Don't get me started on Economics! :| ]

Oh fine.

But rivalries are fun! :p:

Whether its Utd/ Arsenal or LSE/UCL/Kings, either way i want to argue for one side and don't like sitting on the fence (i guess it's part of being a lawyer.)