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Plastic Surgery - why?

Just been thinking about this a bit, why do women and men choose to have plastic surgery when there is nothing physicaly wrong with them? I don't consider myself to be that attractive but I would never consider plastic surgery.

Do you think it is some times used as a way for people to avoid their personal issues and try and cover it up by having operations to make them very attractive?

I can just never understand why people put them selves through so much pain.

Also do you think some people do it purely to please the opposite sex?

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Reply 1

some people's lives revolve completely around their physical appearance and attractiveness, and i suppose being appealing in that way makes them happy. If i thought i wasn't attractive i'd probably consider it because i'm such a superficial person :frown:

Reply 2

Maybe its just age but I really don't care anymore, I want people to view for me my personality not my looks. I am not into sleeping around so who ever I do end up with I would want them to fancy my personality, looks of are just an added bonus.

When I was younger though (under 20) my looks bothered me a lot.

Reply 3

I saw a lady on This Morning once and she had size 32M breasts. It looked so unbelievably rediculous, and they were touching them and Fern said that they felt hard. How can that be good?

Reply 4

lessthanthree
I don't think anyone ever does it "for themselves" if that's what you mean - I think people who try to right the apparent wrongs in their body with plastic surgery feel that their external features may be a turnoff for people [not in the sexual sense]. And feel that they might be better recieved if they "didn't have such a fat ass/twisted nose/crows feet"

I personally feel that if I've got like..i dunno..a really big spot, that EVERYONE will look at my spot, and think "ergh. a spot" . - I guess in the same way a girl with a crooked nose might think that everybody sees her and thinks "she'd be lovely if it weren't for that conk."

The perception of how others see you is always going to be twisted, I guess.

But if it makes people feel better to know that they've rid themselves of something they disliked about their body, and it improves their wellbeing, then more power to them. I'm not adverse to people trying to make themselves feel better if it doesn't involve hurting anybody!


Yeah I am not saying its wrong, just questioning why people would choose to do it. I know what you mean about the spot example but if people choose to view for money then they are not worth bothering with.

I am suppose to wear hearing aids but I never bother becuase I fear that people may look at me different, people at university know of my hearing problem though and are very understanding about it (i.e having to sit near the front).

So I know the people I care about won't view me any different at all, but some how I still hate wearing them becuase of what other people might think. I suppose the fact they are also annoying an uncomfortable is another factor.

Reply 5

Has anyone been watching 'cosmetic surgery live' on channel 5? Puts you off it for life!

Reply 6

Melissa.wales
Has anyone been watching 'cosmetic surgery live' on channel 5? Puts you off it for life!

Ugh. Can't watch it. Makes me feel ill.

Reply 7

I just never knew liposuction was so brutal- Diet and excercise is the only way to go!

Reply 8

lessthanthree
yeah, but if you're hung up on a bodypart to the extent that you'd consider surgery, you probably think nobody likes you/will give you a job/will date you BECAUSE of said bodypart.

A lot of people say that other people's opinions don't matter - but in the real world, they do. Opinions of stupid, shallow people shouldn't count, but unfortunately in this day and age, these stupid shallow people are the ones hiring people for jobs, judging people, and they *do* have influence.

I can be an apathetic type, and I have realised that not many people are worth knowing if they only care about your appearance, but in order to get on in this world, sometimes you have to deal with stupid, shallow people - and if you don't get along with them, your life can easily be made hell. It's not right, but that's the way it is right now.

:dito:
*Reps Lessthanthree for being so awesome* :biggrin:

Reply 9

lessthanthree
yeah, but if you're hung up on a bodypart to the extent that you'd consider surgery, you probably think nobody likes you/will give you a job/will date you BECAUSE of said bodypart.

A lot of people say that other people's opinions don't matter - but in the real world, they do. Opinions of stupid, shallow people shouldn't count, but unfortunately in this day and age, these stupid shallow people are the ones hiring people for jobs, judging people, and they *do* have influence.

I can be an apathetic type, and I have realised that not many people are worth knowing if they only care about your appearance, but in order to get on in this world, sometimes you have to deal with stupid, shallow people - and if you don't get along with them, your life can easily be made hell. It's not right, but that's the way it is right now.


Yep I agree with that, but I did say if there was nothing physicaly wrong, if you have a noticable twisted nose then somthing is perhaps physical wrong depending how noticable it is, I totaly understand why people do it in these situations.

But you see perfectly good looking women enlarging their boobs or what ever for the sake of it and it some how seems a bit demoraling for them. Like society has created that preasure.

I am not probably not typical but I would hate to work for anybody like that and if I did I would want to get out of there as quickly as possible, I don't see why society should put up with Brent style bosses.

I just have a slightly odd view that nature creates people who look in a certain away for a reason. If somthing is physicaly wrong such as noticable odd boob sizes, or burn marks or somthing then plastic surgery is totaly justifable and understandable.

Reply 10

lessthanthree
woop woop! (: fankoo.

Most welcome. :biggrin:

Reply 11

I would never have plastic surgery personally, but I say if people have the money they can do it if they want. It's their own fault if they end up looking ridiculous.

Reply 12

I can understand people who have boob jobs if they are either ridiculously huge or flat as a pancake. If nothing ever grows, you'd feel horribly self-conscious about it. And if, as was mentioned before, you're absolutely enormous (like a 32M, for example!) there's probably quite a genuine medical reason for having it done. It'd put a huge strain on your back, having to lug those things around all the time!

Nose jobs.....well, I suppose it is right in the middle of your face and you *really* hate it.....

But people do place far too much of an emphasis on looks, and most cosmetic surgery is unnecessary and ridiculous.

Reply 13

The way I see it is, if you are at a situation where you want plastic surgery, there are two solutions: plastic surgery or getting a shrink. What I mean is, that there are always psychological reasons that should be addressed first.

Why are the some shallow people in power, because most don't give a rats ass about their appearance, attitude (well maybe they do a bit), but have enough confidence to get into that position. So why does someone else, who might be really beautiful, but doesn't see themselves in that light, have to go through plastic surgery (from having seen episodes on mtv and other programs, looks sick while operating (you are treated like a piece of meat, (using metre long files)), and is agonising afterwards) to make themselves 'more' appealing to have that potato face judge them...?

(((((((sorry about all the parenthasis))))))) :biggrin:

Reply 14

I just think the pain from the fairly simple operations I have had, its not a nice experience I just think its a shame that people feel they need to do it. I think its very much an Americanised culture the UK is getting which is encouraging and making people feel more under preasure about how they look.

You see all these attractive women on the TV and women some times feel they need to look that that.

But I guess if its their own money and their own life its totaly up to them, they are not harming anybody else.

Reply 15

It seems as though most people use cosmetic surgery as a means to combat what are actually internal issues.

Reply 16

SasunD
The way I see it is, if you are at a situation where you want plastic surgery, there are two solutions: plastic surgery or getting a shrink. What I mean is, that there are always psychological reasons that should be addressed first.

Why are the some shallow people in power, because most don't give a rats ass about their appearance, attitude (well maybe they do a bit), but have enough confidence to get into that position. So why does someone else, who might be really beautiful, but doesn't see themselves in that light, have to go through plastic surgery (from having seen episodes on mtv and other programs, looks sick while operating (you are treated like a piece of meat, (using metre long files)), and is agonising afterwards) to make themselves 'more' appealing to have that potato face judge them...?

(((((((sorry about all the parenthasis))))))) :biggrin:



This is what I was kind of getting at origianaly I guess when I said do people do to hide personal issues.

Reply 17

Zurich
It seems as though most people use cosmetic surgery as a means to combat what are actually internal issues.


Absolutely! Has anyone else read Stephen Fry's autobiography ("Moab is my Washpot")? No? I guess I'm the only Fry obsessive on here then...so no change there.
Anyway, the point is, there's a bit in it (which I would find and quote if I weren't so lazy) where he talks about how his nose was broken when he was about eight, and he never got it fixed properly, so ever since it's been incredibly wonky. And he always used to think how much better he'd look if he got it sorted out, so that he had a nice normal straight nose, but all his friends tell him he mustn't - "Oh, but it's so distinguished!" kind of thing. Eventually he realised that it wouldn't make any difference to him, he still be just as fat and ugly and lazy and useless etc. etc., but he was projecting all his "issues" onto his broken nose.
Yeah, so that's what this thread made me think about.

Reply 18

some people genuinly believe they are ugly i dont mean like OMG i have a spot i mean thinking that their hideous (sp?) and shuoldnt leave the house because other people should have to see them, for these people if they didnt have cosmetic surgery they would consider suicide the problem is becuase this is a mental problem no matter how much money they spend they still feel worthless and hide away.

Reply 19

Madelyn
I guess I'm the only Fry obsessive on here then...so no change there.


You're not, but I haven't read it yet. :biggrin:

Anyway, back on topic...

I wish plastic surgery was an option for me. I don't like the idea of it, indeed I find it objectionable on all sorts of grounds. I don't think it is as hideous and objectionable, however, as the short, fat, sunken-eyed, swollen-headed, stumpy-limbed monster that stares at me while I'm shaving in the morning.

It's rather Lovecraftian, that thing.*




*Anyone remember the surprise ending of The Outsider...? Imagine feeling the protaganist's horror at his discovery every time you walk past something shiny.