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Msc Economics Admissions Guide (including a Warwick specific post)

I have now started a spreadsheet to store info for taught Postgrdauate courses in Economics at Uk universities:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rcf0S1p4-udUcSa6BD3cXVw&output=html

[pre]_7) Oxford1234 Mphil (2 year) 1st year UK/EU £9,900/£10,300 Overseas £13,650/£14,050
1234567890123456789012345678902nd year UK/EU £6,400/£6,800 Overseas £13,650/£14,050[/pre]
[pre]10) LSE123456 Msc (1 year) UK/EU £18,048 Overseas £18,048[/pre]
[pre]27) Warwick123Msc (1 year) UK/EU12£8,160 Overseas £11,810[/pre]
[pre]36) UCL123456 Msc (1 year) UK/EU12£9,280 Overseas £14,040[/pre]
[pre]51) Cambridge Mphil (1 year) UK/EU12£9,560 Overseas £15,525 [/pre]

[PRE]82) Nottingham Msc (1year) UK/EU £4,370 Overseas £10,610[/PRE]

Note:
1) The Oxford fees is the sum of the University Fee and the College Fees. College fees vary by college hence the / figures.
2) The UK/EU fee for UCL is still the 08/09 fee as the 09/10 fees have not been publisched yet.
3) The Cambridge fees are formed by totalling the University and College fees.

Why the funny numbering?
The numbers reflect the Universiteis worldwide research rankings for economics:
http://ideas.repec.org/top/top.inst.all.html

If go to a moderate uni after I complete my degree will I be able to do a masters at a better uni?
In general with top unis the constraints are financial not academic. In terms of academics whilst LSE and OXbridge requries Firsts (both actual and predicted) outside those three a 2:1 is probably acceptable. e.g. at Warwick a good 2:1 is ok. Top unis will also look at the content of your course esp. in terms of Maths and Statistics.

So in general the challenge is not getting offers. e.g. If you study econ at an AAA-AAB uni and are predicted a 2:1 or are at an ABB-BBB uni and are predicted a 1st I would expect you to get offers outside the Top 3. However the constraint on applicants are financial not academic. i.e. hard to find funding as the funding that is available is more focused on PhD than Msc students.

Issue is how well you do once you get there. The material taught at undergraduate varies as you go down the table and is no longer a good preparation for msc.

Also check out:
i) the Warick preliminary knowledge post: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10923238#post10923238
ii) the spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rcf0S1p4-udUcSa6BD3cXVw&output=html for the fees and academic requirements on each msc course.

Can I go to a mid table uni for undergraduate and then a top uni for an msc? (1)
At undergraduate level TAELT has 5 ridiculously ridiculously competitive (RRC) unis and 6 ridiculously competitive (RC) unis. At Msc level the picture would be very different. Instead there would be perhaps only 3 RC unis and no RRC unis. For example:
i) Warwick make a lot of offers (e.g. between half and 2 thirds of applicants get offers) and have students from places like Cardiff, Sheffield and Royal Holloway in the last few years.
ii) Notts this cycle had a student from Kingston.

Why is there such a big drop in competitivity between Bsc and Msc?
Well:
i) Lots of Bsc Econ graduates are very employable and hence don't want or need more education.
ii)The Msc fees are higher. So unlike at BSc level prices are not artificially low and hence there is not excess demand.

Can I go to a mid table uni for undergraduate and then a top uni for an Msc? (2)
Getting into a top uni for Msc is one thing doing well is another. i.e. the material taught varies between top and mid table unis. And whilst there is a natural progression in the material taught between Bsc and Msc at top unis, there is no such guarantee at other unis.

So in conclusion. Yes you can move up from a mid to a top uni, but:
i)there are likely to be more issues with the material.
ii)It is expensive and coming from a less good uni it is harder to get funding.

How do I go about applying to do postgraduate study in economics at a UK university?
In terms of applying for postgraduate study you do that directly to each uni so you do not have to do that through UCAS. You can apply to as many or few as you like. And you are not limited to 5 choices.

What are the deadlines?
Well in general there are no hard application deadlines. But sooner is better. e.g. for many funding schemes you need to have made an application first before you can applying for funding. And many funding schemes do have hard deadlines.

Reply 180

DerPumuckl

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Paulwhy

Have you checked on line?
i.e. posted can mean posted online.

I can't recall your background but if your current degree is economics and you have good marks then you should be fine. Finally in a worse case scenario you can still apply to more unis: no limit to number of msc applications you can make.

The "decision posted" is on the postgrad online application system, so I am waiting for a letter. Do you know if the admissions team close over Christmas? I could have sworn they email people the decision.

Thanks for the reassurance though! :smile:

Reply 181

Paulwhy

OP

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Rob L

The "decision posted" is on the postgrad online application system, so I am waiting for a letter.

I see.

Rob L

Do you know if the admissions team close over Christmas?

The University will officially close from Thursday 24 December 2009 (i.e. Wednesday 23 December will be the last working day) and will re-open on Monday 4 January 2010 (i.e. the University will be open for work on the morning of Monday 4 January.)

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/insite/newsandevents/intnews2/christmas_closures_09

Rob L

I could have sworn they email people the decision.

When I applied the response was by letter. But I had asked Warwick what was the status of my application as my other 2 unis had made offers. And they emailed to say that they had made a recommendation of an offer to the senate. So it is possible that they would have emailed me anyway. But I think not.

Rob L

Thanks for the reassurance though! :smile:

No problem. :smile:

Reply 182

DerPumuckl

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Well I haven't got a letter yet... so I'll phone tomorrow. Crosses Fingers

P.S. I changed my username. :wink:

Reply 183

DerPumuckl

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Conditional Offer from UWarwick! :yep:

Reply 184

Overmars

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Congrats

Conditional on what, if you don't mind my asking?

Reply 185

DerPumuckl

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Overmars

Congrats

Conditional on what, if you don't mind my asking?

Thanks. Conditional on:

1) IELTS with 6.5 or above or equivalent test (my ~ 2+ year old TOEFL 119/120 wasn't enough apparently!)

2) A German BA grade of 2.4 or better (this seems to be their translation of a 2:1 since < 2.5 is "gut" in Germany).

I'm on my way to < 1.5 "sehr gut" so its not a problem! :eek3:

Reply 186

Overmars

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That's just a load of stuff I don't understand :ninja:

Was just curious. Thanks.

Reply 187

Phdaspirant

Hi DerPumuckl

May I ask if you called pgadmissions to find out the decision? Or did they email you?

Reply 188

DerPumuckl

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Phdaspirant

Hi DerPumuckl

May I ask if you called pgadmissions to find out the decision? Or did they email you?

I phoned them and that's when they realized that they had forgotten to email me. I got an email five minutes after the phone call. :smile:

Reply 189

Phdaspirant

DerPumuckl

I phoned them and that's when they realized that they had forgotten to email me. I got an email five minutes after the phone call. :smile:

Hey I've got a conditional offer to the economics program as well. Do we have to accept the offer within a specific timeframe? :biggrin:

Reply 190

SarahR1

Hi

, does anyone know how you upload your transcripts at Warwick? Are you sent a link by e-mail? How long does that link take to arrive after applying?

Thanks.

Reply 191

DerPumuckl

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SarahR1

Hi

, does anyone know how you upload your transcripts at Warwick? Are you sent a link by e-mail? How long does that link take to arrive after applying?

Thanks.

Hi Sarah,

you get an email pretty soon after sending off the online application. In that email there is a link to a secure site where you can upload additional items. :yes:

Good luck!

Reply 192

SarahR1

Thanks!

Reply 193

curious alien

Apologies for opening a new thread, I should've asked here: I have conditional offers from Manchester and Warwick for MSc Economics. How long before I have to reply? It's going to be a while before I hear from my other unis.

Reply 194

DerPumuckl

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From all i know you can always accept and then decline in the end. In Warwick there is no deposit attached to the offer.

Reply 195

DerPumuckl

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Which of these unis has a deposit for their MSc Economics or MSc Economic Research?

UCL
LSE
Cambridge
Oxford
Warwick - i know they don't

Does anyone know how long one has to accept and is the deposit refundable?

Reply 196

ntkris

Warwick, doesn't need any deposit. I've got a conditional offer for the Diploma-Masters and I accepted it immediately although I'm waiting for other Unis.

If it is among your top choices then you should accept it because everyone else would be doing the same and places might run out :smile:

Reply 197

chap54

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ntkris

Warwick, doesn't need any deposit. I've got a conditional offer for the Diploma-Masters and I accepted it immediately although I'm waiting for other Unis.

If it is among your top choices then you should accept it because everyone else would be doing the same and places might run out :smile:

Which course? I just got an offer for the PGDip Econ and as long as I don't get my other two applications elsewhere then im taking it :biggrin:

Reply 198

ntkris

Yeah Ditto!

I've got into the PG Dip Econ as well. Planning on doing my second year in either pure economics, international financial economics or Finance & Eco (I think ill have to apply again next year for this one)

Where else have you applied?

I'm waiting on Cambridge and LSE

Reply 199

Paulwhy

OP

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ntkris

Yeah Ditto!

I've got into the PG Dip Econ as well. Planning on doing my second year in either pure economics, international financial economics or Finance & Eco (I think ill have to apply again next year for this one)

What mark do they want in the diploma to gain entry to the msc these days?

ntkris

Where else have you applied?

I'm waiting on Cambridge and LSE

Good luck with those 2.

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