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Msc Economics Admissions Guide (including a Warwick specific post)

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So i have started all of my applications except LSE. Warwick's form is the best by a mile imo.

Two questions:

1) I can't find the MSc Economics on UCL's application website?
2) Is the one document you upload in Warwick's form supposed to be a single document (i.e. CV or transcript), or can i pdf merge all my documents (CV and transcript and award letters) into one pdf and upload it?

Thanks and good luck everyone! :smile:
Reply 81
Rob L
So i have started all of my applications except LSE. Warwick's form is the best by a mile imo.

Two questions:

1) I can't find the MSc Economics on UCL's application website?
2) Is the one document you upload in Warwick's form supposed to be a single document (i.e. CV or transcript), or can i pdf merge all my documents (CV and transcript and award letters) into one pdf and upload it?

Thanks and good luck everyone! :smile:

Thanks for posting. But I don't know the answer to either of your questions. I did not apply to UCL and I can't quite recall how the Warwick application works. Sorry.
I have another two or three questions:

1) Are "Research" degrees more or less difficult to get into? I am tending to apply to research ones instead of taught due to me harbouring an ambition to do a PhD later on. But i would prefer a taught MPhil at Cambridge over no MPhil at Cambridge, if you know what i mean?!

2) Some Unis say they want two LoRs. I have three excellent LoR's lined up. Can i just have one of the Professors send it in without me listing them on the online form?

3) Will it make a bad impression if two of the LoRs are online uploaded and one is paper-sent? Or should i have all paper-sent, since probably my best LoR wants to send it by post.

4) Do you think it makes a difference to funding chances if i write my family would finance my studies?

Thanks again.
The UCL MSc is a paper application (well it was two years ago anyways)
So you should apply on the website for them to send you the application pack.

I don't really know the answers to your other questions.
Reply 84
Rob L
I have another two or three questions:

I have counted (and checked) and it is 4 not 2 or 3.

Rob L
1) Are "Research" degrees more or less difficult to get into? I am tending to apply to research ones instead of taught due to me harbouring an ambition to do a PhD later on. But i would prefer a taught MPhil at Cambridge over no MPhil at Cambridge, if you know what i mean?!

I don't think Cambridge will discriminate against you depending on which option you choose.

Rob L
2) Some Unis say they want two LoRs. I have three excellent LoR's lined up. Can i just have one of the Professors send it in without me listing them on the online form?

Physically posisble but not sure it will achieve much.

Rob L
3) Will it make a bad impression if two of the LoRs are online uploaded and one is paper-sent? Or should i have all paper-sent, since probably my best LoR wants to send it by post

not matter.

Rob L
4) Do you think it makes a difference to funding chances if i write my family would finance my studies?

Thanks again.

Well yes absolutely. So don't mention your family funding option: it will not help you get a places and will harm dramatically your funding chances.
Reply 85
Can anyone who has already done a Masters in Economics (or MPhil at Oxford/Cambridge) explain what is unique about their course?

Looing on the university websites, the courses are all very similar, with some compulsory core modules, some optional and a dissertation. It seems the only things that differentiate them are the reputation of the department at whihc they are taught, how they are taught, and the their fees!
Reply 86
bobindra
Can anyone who has already done a Masters in Economics (or MPhil at Oxford/Cambridge) explain what is unique about their course?

Looing on the university websites, the courses are all very similar, with some compulsory core modules, some optional and a dissertation. It seems the only things that differentiate them are the reputation of the department at whihc they are taught, how they are taught, and the their fees!

Are asking about:
i)the differences between Cambridge and Oxford?
or
ii)the difference between Oxbridge and non-Oxbridge?
Reply 87
yeah sorry I didnt make that clear - i mean both i and ii really. Its difficult to identify what is unique about each department unless you look at its reputation and research interests, and im not sure these are suitable discriminatory factors to include in an application form...
Reply 88
bobindra
yeah sorry I didnt make that clear - i mean both i and ii really. Its difficult to identify what is unique about each department unless you look at its reputation and research interests, and im not sure these are suitable discriminatory factors to include in an application form...

As I tried to explain in the opening thread Masters entry for economics is nothing like as competitive as BSc.
What uni are you at at the moment?
What grades do you have?
What course are you doing?
Reply 89
lse economics, got high firsts in both first and second year - i read your comments about it not being a scompetitive (in terms of applications per place) but i suspect that the quality of the applicants is higher, as only those who've done well at undergrad level and seriously stand a chnace would apply
Reply 90
bobindra
lse economics, got high firsts in both first and second year - i read your comments about it not being a scompetitive (in terms of applications per place) but i suspect that the quality of the applicants is higher, as only those who've done well at undergrad level and seriously stand a chnace would apply

Given that you have high First grades so far from LSE, if you were to not get offers from any of the UK unis, I would be very much surprised. Although getting funding is a lot harder. Are you aiming to do a PhD after the msc?
Reply 91
bobindra
lse economics, got high firsts in both first and second year - i read your comments about it not being a scompetitive (in terms of applications per place) but i suspect that the quality of the applicants is higher, as only those who've done well at undergrad level and seriously stand a chnace would apply


If you have got high firsts and you've taken ec202 and ec221, I'd be amazed if you didn't get an offer from lse, oxford and cambridge.

Quite frankly, I would be aiming firmly for oxford or getting onto the LSE masters course. And if doing a phd after your masters, again oxford/lse or look towards the best schools in the states. Oxford have a simple progression from their 2 year mphil course to the phd. LSE make you take an MSc->MRes->PHD route but the course is one of the best in the world.

EC202 and EC221 teaches stuff much harder than what oxford/cambridge themselves have to offer at an undergraduate level.

Speak to Dr Judith Shapiro (undergraduate economics tutor at LSE) and she will give you very good advice since she has a lot of experience in graduate applications. If you are currently on a comfortable first, you'll get a glowing reference as well.
Reply 92
Hey

I am about to enter my final year of a 'mathematics and economics' course. I want to do a masters in economics, preferably from Oxbridge, Warwick or LSE, and I'm wondering what would give me the best chance of getting an offer:

Applying for a diploma and (hopefully!) moving onto a msc/mphil or applying directly for a one-year msc/mphil........??

I will have taken a basic macroeconomics course and obviously I have specialised in microeconomics and mathematical economics but I will have done no real research. I will not have done any labour economics or development economics or any other specialised coursework/research in economics that most standard bsc economics students will have studied. But I hope my ability and knowledge of maths is seen as a big plus point!

While I'm not rich and will be applying for funding, I am not concerned about the extra cost of a year. My aim is just to study economics (as geeky as it sounds!!)

Any advice?? Diploma or straight to a masters??

Thanks x
I did Maths and Economics and I went straight into the masters. In hindsight, I may have been better of doing the diploma. What I found was that although I had done lots of maths, the maths that I had done was more pure maths than the more applied stuff that you find in economics so I did find it to be difficult.
Paulwhy
I have counted (and checked) and it is 4 not 2 or 3.


Indeed. :biggrin: I tried to sneak in 4 questions for the price of 2. :p:


I don't think Cambridge will discriminate against you depending on which option you choose.


Good.


Physically posisble but not sure it will achieve much.


Okay. I think she can say more about my personal side than the other two.



Well yes absolutely. So don't mention your family funding option: it will not help you get a places and will harm dramatically your funding chances.


Oh, okay. So when admitting they dont care about if the student can pay? They admit, then look at funding and then hand out the offer and hope he/she can take it up?

Thank you so much. :smile:
Okay, so i have a few more questions. The number of questions x being an integer between 1 and 10.

I have a bit of a weak spot in the sense that German studies are divided into two parts, the basic studies (not all econ, but also law, accounting and business) which dont count towards your final BA result and the advanced studies (all econ) which do count. I have a solid 2:1 in the basic studies (a 1st in the econ part) and am top 14% in the basic studies. In the advanced studies i am at a very good 2:1 (including a 3.86 GPA from my US exchange year), nearly 1st. I have no percentage for those sadly. But i reckon i'd be top 10%. My questions are:

Will this harm my application at Oxbridge/LSE?

Will universities discriminate in a positive way and look at my econ classes?

Should i explain this system in my personal statement and say how much better i am at the econ classes?

Can i explain that most people either get a fail or a "D" pass at law?

Will UK unis know that the German system is not geared towards people gaining 1sts? In a way, what i mean is that with my high 2:1 i have chances of being the best in my year! But sadly i cannot write that on to my application since its only official in february.

Also: German unis don't do "expected/predicted" grades, am i supposed to predict myself???

Another one: If my former adviser in the US said to me in an email it is safe to assume i am top 5% in the econ department, can i use that in my ps? Or do i need an official ranking of some sort?

I like my uni, but the bureaucracy and the constant changing in standards is ****** up. :frown:
Reply 96
A lot of the stuff, you have said should be done through references. If you are in the top 10% in your class, your referee should say that. If top 5% in your year abroad, get a reference from your advisor. I expect universtities to focus on economics and math classes.

I wouldn't worry about universities not properly converting your degree to a UK standard. If a high 2.1 is equal to being in the top 10% in your class, then oxbridge/lse will know that. They have many german students accepted and so should be experienced in this department.
Reply 97
Rob L
Okay, so i have a few more questions. The number of questions x being an integer between 1 and 10.

I have a bit of a weak spot in the sense that German studies are divided into two parts, the basic studies (not all econ, but also law, accounting and business) which dont count towards your final BA result and the advanced studies (all econ) which do count. I have a solid 2:1 in the basic studies (a 1st in the econ part) and am top 14% in the basic studies. In the advanced studies i am at a very good 2:1 (including a 3.86 GPA from my US exchange year), nearly 1st. I have no percentage for those sadly. But i reckon i'd be top 10%. My questions are:

Will this harm my application at Oxbridge/LSE?

Will universities discriminate in a positive way and look at my econ classes?

Should i explain this system in my personal statement and say how much better i am at the econ classes?

Can i explain that most people either get a fail or a "D" pass at law?

Will UK unis know that the German system is not geared towards people gaining 1sts? In a way, what i mean is that with my high 2:1 i have chances of being the best in my year! But sadly i cannot write that on to my application since its only official in february.

Also: German unis don't do "expected/predicted" grades, am i supposed to predict myself???

Another one: If my former adviser in the US said to me in an email it is safe to assume i am top 5% in the econ department, can i use that in my ps? Or do i need an official ranking of some sort?

I like my uni, but the bureaucracy and the constant changing in standards is ****** up. :frown:

You are not limited by the number of msc applications you can make. So why are you focused on what your chances are?
Why not just apply and find out?
Well, i believe a few of those questions are focussed on maximizing my chances. The PS question and the "predicted grade" one would be important for example. The other ones are just because i am curious. :smile:

Also for some irrational reason i am quite excited about the whole process.
Jaffaholic
A lot of the stuff, you have said should be done through references. If you are in the top 10% in your class, your referee should say that. If top 5% in your year abroad, get a reference from your advisor. I expect universtities to focus on economics and math classes.

I wouldn't worry about universities not properly converting your degree to a UK standard. If a high 2.1 is equal to being in the top 10% in your class, then oxbridge/lse will know that. They have many german students accepted and so should be experienced in this department.


Thank you. I thought i was supposed to say which percentile i am in, based on some form from my uni. I'm sure my references will do a good job at this. That's a relief.

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