God if you knew the full story of my efforts to track down climbers at St A's! Basically I went to the open day and nobody knew anything about them, including the guy I asked who was meant to be the "sports coordinator" or some such thing. There was also no sign of the club: no cubbyhole in the mail thing (and there was one labeled "parachutists"), no notices about club meets, no "come and try" posters like there were for the other societies, nothing. So I emailed the club with some questions and they took a month to reply, hardly filling me with confidence. When they did it was from a bloke who said he was a walker and didn't actually know anything about the climbers, though he was able to tell me that there were no training facilities in St Andrews (even he admitted the wall was dire). I can't help but think that that wouldn't be the case if it was brimming with motivated climbers, can you? It's not actually the weekend trips I was interested in, it was more about the midweek training stuff, which isn't mentioned at all, as opposed to the weekends away which I’m sure are excellent. So I was a little harsh saying it was non-existent, I’ll rephrase to “not focused on the same things as I am”. Ok, so maybe I’m a sad sport climber who should focus more on having fun but that’s not a crime.
But anyway that's not the issue is it? The issue is that you think I was slating your (almost our, as I've accepted an unconditional) Uni. I honestly didn't mean to offend anyone with what I intended to be dispassionate observances, I'm just saying it's not as good as my first choice ok? But I think you're going a bit far to suggest I shouldn't have given my opinion at all, after all this is an internet forum! I think something, you think something else, that’s fine, let’s both be big enough not to descend to name calling? I felt what I said was relevant to the topic, so I said it. It’s possible to disagree politely you know, maybe a better response would have been: “Well, I think the Uni is great and you’re wrong about X, Y and Z,” rather than twisting my words and calling me stupid. And I'd say that as my post was about St As it should go on the St A forum?
And I also said I found St Andrews "nice enough," which pretty fairly represents what I think: it's not perfect but it's quite nice and I think I'll be happy. If you're holding out for universal adoration you're just being unrealistic, you may have to accept that some people will disagree with you occasionally, just because you think the Uni is great doesn’t mean everyone has to. I like pickle but I won’t have a problem if you say you hate it.
And the comparison with a football club is hardly fair. If I created a username on a board solely for Newcastle fans and then genuinely slagged them off I’d deserve what was coming to me. After all, they're renowned for a clannish and violent hatred of outsiders: not a comparison you want to draw if you're trying to people to like the place more than they already do? Good thing there’s people like ImperceptibleNinja and sophie_c on here to demonstrate a little tolerance and understanding.
Okay, so maybe I underestimated how attached some people can get to their Uni, and I'm sorry, but I think you're only finding offence because you want to find it.