should donations to political parties/governments be banned?

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alweb
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I personally think that big companies should be allowed to donate to political parties because of their motives to get a particular policy blocked/approved in parliament. One example of this was bernie ecclesstone and the row over tabacco advertising in Formula.
Even if their motives are genuinely shifted towards their support of their chosen party's ideals the money would only be used to spin and advertise their way to into re-election/power. Any political party should be voted on the strengths of their policies and not if the are trendy and popular amongsts celebrities. Tell me what you think.
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If you have the money, then why not use it? Corruption will always be a part of government, no matter how benevolent they may seem. Get used to it.
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(Original post by Mr White)
If you have the money, then why not use it? Corruption will always be a part of government, no matter how benevolent they may seem. Get used to it.
As good a reason as any to allow it. :rolleyes:
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As good a reason as any to allow it. :rolleyes:
Exactly. Politicians have to make money as well.
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(Original post by Mr White)
Exactly. Politicians have to make money as well.
But surely MP's and civil servants are paid for by our taxes?
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But surely MP's and civil servants are paid for by our taxes?
In service for running our country (albeit, badly) Tony Blair only recieves a salary of £85,000 / year.

That's about the same as a footballer would get in a week.
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(Original post by Mr White)
In service for running our country (albeit, badly) Tony Blair only recieves a salary of £85,000 / year.

That's about the same as a footballer would get in a week.
the same could be said for doctors, teachers and other people working in the public services. But ultimately the media has almost absolute power in dictating opinion and salaries.
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(Original post by alweb)
the same could be said for doctors, teachers and other people working in the public services. But ultimately the media has almost absolute power in dictating opinion and salaries.
The media has way too much power.
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You sure about that?? I thought the figure was usually about £150,000 for the PM.
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You sure about that?? I thought the figure was usually about £150,000 for the PM.
If you include the fact that all bills are paid for him, then it probably is as high as that.
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I remember we had some poster at my school of the sort of figures that MP's receive. Back-benchers get the least amount and they get about £40,000.
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If you include the fact that all bills are paid for him, then it probably is as high as that.
So there's no argument that MP's are undervalued then...
with privilege come responsibilty
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I think the main issue is of the media having too much power over politics and are probably the main culprits in influencing the policy of political parties.
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You sure about that?? I thought the figure was usually about £150,000 for the PM.
The higher figure is correct but don't you remember that Blair and rest of senior cabinet ministers did not take full pay so as to set an example. People soon forget those sort of gestures but will remember if big pay rises are self awarded.
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(Original post by alweb)
I think the main issue is of the media having too much power over politics and are probably the main culprits in influencing the policy of political parties.
i don't think companies should be allowed to make donations to poliical parties at all. they've always got an ulterior motive, for example Esso made a huge donation in the US Gov in order to halt the Kyoto Treaty, which the UK is now trying to convince America to agree to.
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I remember we had some poster at my school of the sort of figures that MP's receive. Back-benchers get the least amount and they get about £40,000.
That figure has gone up considerably, plus they get monies for researchers and something like £30,000 for secretaries who are usually their wives and only send out the Christmas cards! Remember IDS?
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I know, i said back-benchers. They don't have secretaries and government resources to use.
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I know, i said back-benchers. They don't have secretaries and government resources to use.
Sorry - skimmed over bit about back-benchers. But then they probably have a proper job as most of back benches only seem to be occupied during PMQ's so it's like pocket money to them. They get more money as well from asking questions for back-handers.
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Of course people should be able to give money to any political parties.

It's a form of free speech.
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