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Coventry for Digital Forensics/Ethical Hacking?

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Reply 20

jamiemac2005
Are both considered a computing subject? i'm on Computer Science and all the subjects are sort of squashed together (everyone does the same thing the first year). I'm currently considering switching to Software Enginnering (and i have the whole year to decide)... But i know there are some more specialist subjects which have a differed first year.

No. BSc Ethical Hacking is a Computing course, BEng Digital Forensics and System Security is a Systems Engineering course.

Reply 21

r74n
as i said i am considering both.

the course spec would be appreciated as the site lacks alot of detail :wink:

thanks

http://www.coventry.ac.uk/cu/external/content/1/c4/51/33/v1248965572/user/Digital%20Forensics%20&%20System%20Security%20BEng%20June%202009.pdf
I must say, the course has been altered since I commenced it... it looks like they've moved DFSS onto a more common programme with Ethical Hacking.

http://www.coventry.ac.uk/cu/external/content/1/c4/51/33/v1249286720/user/Ethical%20Hacking%20BSc%20June%202008.pdf

As far as employment opportunities go, however, I still stand by my previous comments. A graduate in DFSS has much better employment prospects. The Faculty management creating synergy between the two courses simply makes it an easier choice, IMO.

Reply 22

odd question i'm sure. but what is Ethical hacking? surely hacking by nature is not only unethical, but illegal?

Reply 23

Hey morgi, on a basic level ethical hacking is the practice of hiring someone with hacking knowledge to security test(attempt to hack) your company's software, network, website, etc... The ethical hacker is used to test the integrity of the software in order to improve the software's security.

Reply 24

ethical hacker basically exploits weaknesses in the clients website and aids in securing them. before the "for want of a better phrase" 'real' hackers find the exploits.

...the better phrase is malicious.

malicious hackers are called black-hat hackers, ethical hackers are white-hat hackers and no one knows what red-hat is; probably just a 'marketing' ploy for a linux distro.

Reply 25

r74n
ethical hacker basically exploits weaknesses in the clients website and aids in securing them. before the "for want of a better phrase" 'real' hackers find the exploits.

...the better phrase is malicious.

malicious hackers are called black-hat hackers, ethical hackers are white-hat hackers and no one knows what red-hat is; probably just a 'marketing' ploy for a linux distro.

Red hats/Tiger Teams are interchangeable terms for a group of White-Hat hackers working as a pen-testing team. :smile:

Reply 26

ah ok thank you, I am familiar with the term tiger team just not the latter unless it refers to fedora

Reply 27

It's a bit disappointing to hear that the Ethical Hacking Degree that's claimed to have credit globally, is purely metasploit training.

The Digital Forensics and Systems Sec, seems to be a safer more elegant bet at computer design and penetration.

I'd like to ask (for both degrees) what Programming Languages (if any are covered) are available for learning within the degree? I read that Object Oriented design would be covered, but as I'm sure a lot of you know, the convetry.ac.uk site is horrible for elegance in terms of looks and nagivation. It's truly the most horrible website out of all the Universities in England, that I've visited.

Anyway, no intentions of ranting :smile: Thanks for your responses.

Reply 28

Ah, I also forgot, it appears that there's a _bit_ of math in DFSS too, judging from the main site; for a subject I'm not at all good in, does mathematics hinder my choice for DFSS? Or, is it just an additive, that's fairly minimal, etc.

Thanks.

Reply 29

loulZ
It's a bit disappointing to hear that the Ethical Hacking Degree that's claimed to have credit globally, is purely metasploit training.

The Digital Forensics and Systems Sec, seems to be a safer more elegant bet at computer design and penetration.

I'd like to ask (for both degrees) what Programming Languages (if any are covered) are available for learning within the degree? I read that Object Oriented design would be covered, but as I'm sure a lot of you know, the convetry.ac.uk site is horrible for elegance in terms of looks and nagivation. It's truly the most horrible website out of all the Universities in England, that I've visited.

Anyway, no intentions of ranting :smile: Thanks for your responses.

DFSS covers C and C++. :smile:

loulZ
Ah, I also forgot, it appears that there's a _bit_ of math in DFSS too, judging from the main site; for a subject I'm not at all good in, does mathematics hinder my choice for DFSS? Or, is it just an additive, that's fairly minimal, etc.

Thanks.

First year module, only. And even that's only GCSE up to early A-Level. Nothing too taxing. J Notation, differentiation and integration is about as hard as it gets.

Reply 30

So, Ethical Hacking doesn't cover any languages? I'm appalled; Hrm, you sure do know a lot for one that just finished his first year, judging from your prior statements :wink:

Ah, I saw "Engineering Mathematics" and thought I was in for something I wasn't hoping for. I can deal with fundamental Discrete Math :smile:

Thanks again for your responsez, I owe you a beer.

Reply 31

loulZ
So, Ethical Hacking doesn't cover any languages? I'm appalled; Hrm, you sure do know a lot for one that just finished his first year, judging from your prior statements :wink:

Ah, I saw "Engineering Mathematics" and thought I was in for something I wasn't hoping for. I can deal with fundamental Discrete Math :smile:

Thanks again for your responsez, I owe you a beer.

I'm not 100% sure about whether Ethical Hacking has any programming involved.

Yeah, Engineering Mathematics isn't anything to worry about really. :smile:

No worries!

Reply 32

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