The Student Room Group

Reply 1

fuzzytransition
(i) How do the LLB and JD compare academically?

(ii) Are they very similar to the extent that they are both a first degree in law, even though the JD is a graduate programme?

My impression is that the LLB is a bit more academically focused than the JD. It seems as if the JD tries to incorporate more 'professional skills' into the course. Do you think this assessment is correct?


I would say that thats pretty accurate - though neither incorporate that much practicality.

LLBs are certainly purely academic. Thats what the LPC is for.

Reply 2

Am I being dumb JD?

Reply 3

Juris Doctor. American version of LLB

Reply 4

You thinking about applying for the JD fuzzy? Whcih universities are you considering? Beware of the LSAT also (I saw an LNAT example paper and it is PISS easy compared to the evil LSAT).

Reply 5

Vitriol01
You thinking about applying for the JD fuzzy? Whcih universities are you considering? Beware of the LSAT also (I saw an LNAT example paper and it is PISS easy compared to the evil LSAT).

I was thinking the opposite when I took a few LSAT example tests...

Reply 6

Onearmedbandit
I was thinking the opposite when I took a few LSAT example tests...


You're joking right?! The LSAT prep ruled my life for a few months. I used to sit and gaze at my practice tests for hours wondering how the hell I was ever going to get a decent score. The games section used to be a bit of a mind****. Kaplan helped though. :wink:

The LNAT sample paper I saw was far, far easier IMO.

Reply 7

Vitriol01
You're joking right?! The LSAT prep ruled my life for a few months. I used to sit and gaze at my practice tests for hours wondering how the hell I was ever going to get a decent score. The games section used to be a bit of a mind****. Kaplan helped though. :wink:

The LNAT sample paper I saw was far, far easier IMO.

Well I only did the multiple choice part of the LSAT, that's that only part I know. But the idea of shorter texts with 1 question each certainly is far easier (for me, at least) than one long text followed by a few questions.

Reply 8

Onearmedbandit
Well I only did the multiple choice part of the LSAT, that's that only part I know. But the idea of shorter texts with 1 question each certainly is far easier (for me, at least) than one long text followed by a few questions.


Ahhh, I see. You must have only seen the first section. Take a look at this sample:

http://www.lsac.org/pdfs/2005-2006/LSAT-test-new.pdf

Reply 9

Vitriol01
Ahhh, I see. You must have only seen the first section. Take a look at this sample:

http://www.lsac.org/pdfs/2005-2006/LSAT-test-new.pdf

Cheers :smile: Saved that.

Reply 10

Lawz-
I would say that thats pretty accurate - though neither incorporate that much practicality.

LLBs are certainly purely academic. Thats what the LPC is for.





Would you say that the JD is more demanding than the LLB? Is it more respected?

From what I've read, JD students take more classes, electives, and also work on journals and moot courts. I also hear that the course structures are a bit different since LLB students take these 'paper exams,' while JD's take more multiple choice exams and write more papers for their electives. Is this right?

Reply 11

Nah, that's not really right. JD is the american law degree, and really has little to do with the amount of work, types of papers, etc. Used to be called LLB, but that was back in the old days when you could obtain an LLB (A bachelor of laws) without having a bachelor's degree in something else. Today, under American Bar Ass'n rules, that's no longer the case. All ABA accredited degrees require 90 hours of study over a minimum of 3 years following a bachelor's degree (7 years of school total). It is worth noting that only NY and California allow the licensing of attorneys without an ABA accredited degree.

As far as test taking is concerned, that varies by school. Most american law schools require essay exams for all first year courses with later, elective or skills-based courses having the option of other forms of testing.

Interestingly enough, the "advanced" law degrees are still called LLM's in this country, even though the LLB is no longer awarded here. Most think the trend from LLB to JD was the result of people not appreciating spending 7 years of college to only have a bachelor's degree. Making the law degree a "doctorate" puts it in line with M.D., Ph.D., and D.V.M. degrees requiring substantially similar amounts of post baccalaurate time.


upsidedown
Would you say that the JD is more demanding than the LLB? Is it more respected?

From what I've read, JD students take more classes, electives, and also work on journals and moot courts. I also hear that the course structures are a bit different since LLB students take these 'paper exams,' while JD's take more multiple choice exams and write more papers for their electives. Is this right?